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Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume XVI, Issue 5146, 3 October 1895, Page 2

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Press Aesociatlon—Electric Telc*nph-Copyriftht THE DEAN CASE. Sill JULIAN SALOMONS IN REPLY. HE INSISTS THAT DEM IS GUILTY. Rcveiued Octobers, 10.30 nm. !m\Ey, Octobor 2.

The Legislative Council was crowded this afternoon to hear tho reply of Sir Julian Salomons to Mr Meaghor.

Sir J, Salomons said he would never havo undertaken such an unpleasant task but that ho felt ho could bring homo to everyone—iexcepting those, who, unfortunately, sympathised with crime, and immediately the man was convicted adopted every means to get the sentence quashed—the absolute truth of his assertions, which ho was prepared to swear to in any court. Mr Meagher and Mr Crick had taken strong objection to his keeping tho confession so long secret and not disclosing it to Mr Pilcher during tho sittings of tho Commission, but he had documentary proof that ho had made a statement in writing to Mr Stephen,son of tho latoOhief Justice, which would bring tho conviction of Dean's guilt to every impartial mind. Notwithstanding Mr Meagher's denial, ho would prove that ho had made disclosures absolutely involving Dean's guilt. He would also prove tliat, after Dean's conviction, Meaghor, Crick and Dean hatched a conspiracy which led to tho appoiutraont of the Commission.

Sir Julian Salomons again affirmed that every word contained in tho written statement previously handed to tho Attorney-General was true.

Ho added that after the interview with Mr Meagher at his ollico, bo immediately called in Mr Simpson, solicitor in the same chambers, and gave him full details of the conversation. Ho asked him to act in tho matter, but, owing to their legal relations, he declined. Tho next day he (Sir Julian Salomons) saw Mr Stephen, from whom he produced a lettei staling that they had sevoral conversations in reference to Mr Meagher's confession. Subsequently Sir Juliau Salomons obtained Mr Meagher's consent for a conference with Mr Pilcher. The latter agreed, but afterwards wrote saying that as he had acted as Dean's counsel ho could not conscientiously take part in tho conference, adding that whatever statements Mr Moagher mado wero sacred |and could not be divulged. Failing to obtain witnesses to substantiate the statement, Sir Juliau Salomons at ft second interviow with MrMeagber, suggested that heshotild consult Mr O'Connor, solicitor. Mr Meaghor replied that ho did not want to consult him, and hoped Sir Julian Salomons would not take any further action.

Sir Julian Salomons then tried to impress him with the terrible position in which lio was placed, and tho groat wrong.dono to Mrs Demi, knowing she was innocent, Ho did all ho could to urgo Mr Meagher to adopt a proper course so as to prevent tlio terrible disclosures w'tich must inovitably conic, but failed, Mr Meagher only saying that ho would think over tlio mattor and see what could be done.

He believed tlmt if it had not been for Jlr Crick, whowns equally aware of tho facts, Mr Meagher would liavo told the whole truth. Sir Julian Salomons credited Mr Meagher with concocting a very plausible and ablo explanation by saying that lie was suffering from a hallucination. Thirty years ago he had suffered from brain fever and had been out of his mind, but sinco then no one had been ablo to say that ho had ever been subject to hallucinations, unless in believing that Mr Meagher was not the man lie turnod out to bo. Tho confession had been made and would baye to be cleared. Mr Meagher must see to it. When Mr Cl ick and Mr Meagher found that ho intended to make tho confession known they decided to spread rumours about his hallucinations.

In reference to tho alleged offer of money to Dean to leavo tho country, Sir Julian Salomons declared that what ho did was to ask Meagher to plead with Dean to go away and leave behind a letter absolving his wife. Ho added that he would give £SO out of his own pocket to provo her innocent. Mr Stephen agreed with this, and offered to subscribe money,

Between the knowledgo of tho confession and the pledge of confidence which had been given, ho was in a state of torture, but justice to an innocent woman, though against the advice of those most dear to him, decided him to divulgo tho whole matter.

Mr O'Connor also spoko, and confirmed the statement of Sir Julian Salomons that thoy had talked the confession over and arranged a conference with Mr Meagher, but the later had failed to attend, He believed every word of Sir Julian Salomons' statement, and that Dean was guilty, It was a cruel shame to accuse Sir Julian Salomons of hallucinations. •

Mr Filcher said that what Sir Julian Salomons had slated about the proposed conference ho failed to attend was correct, but lie asserted his belief in Dean's innocence. At a lato hour the clcbato is still proceeding,

MR PILCHER'S OPINION. ( WHAT THE HERALD THINKS, i Received October 3,11 a.m. | Syd.ney, October 3. , Mr Pilcher sajd that personally [ lie would not have disclosed com [ fidences such as Mr Meagher was I alleged to lmve made. Such a course I was unwarranted, unless to savo uu , innocent man from gaol or the scaffold. The issue at stake was not whether Dean was guilty or innocent, but whether Mr Meaghersaid lie was. He had no doubt in his own mind that Dean did not make tho confession attributed to him. After the Attorney • General's speech'the matter dropped.' Tlie Chairman of th ; e'Deftu Dofence Committee, interviewed, said Mr Meagher admitted that during a ponversatioh with' Sir Julian Salomons, he jootilarly ' remarked that the Government were hunting Dean as guilty. The Herahlstsies that in theface of th 9 brilliant and vigorous displayof intellectual power, resourceandforensic argument of Sir Julian Salomons, the suggestion that tho original statement emanated from a mind : subject to hallucinations, was simply ' shrivelled up and vanished, i