PARLIAMENTRY
United Press AssoeiATios*' LEGISLATIVE OOUKCIL; t A motion was agreed to that the Coun« oil adjourn till Saturday, , Li r comimttee on the Property Assessment Bill a question as to. wMher the Bill was a money Bill was raised. lbs matter was referred to tho spoalrWjrjbo ruled the Bdl could.be amended not effect the question of appropriation. A debate ensued, and the question was adjourned to tho evening, •, Tho managers free conference oil the Municipal Corporations Bill brought up a report recommending to. the Council that the- amendment m'not ineifited on. The question Wa's : adjourned. : .',*!.-: :. : The amendment of tho; House in the Settled Land Bill was agreed jto; •-• The District Bill .wa«'read : asecpnd Ume, co'mmijsedj reported, read a third time, and*passed., '■'. ' ;. The Council adjourned, to 7.30.
HOUSE;OF ' •'TheHoußametai^Sfj[ui)^ ! '••_ ' Mr Oonoliy brought up a rtjtyrt (if- th» ■. Committee in Owhaokai and ' : Kaimanaw'» , Block. . '•■ ~ . ■;.•;""• v';;.: / -.■ > Mr' Ballance said the'; GivJjbießt would Btate op tiexfe course they propos&d to! t&l£ej''i^apeetiijg the report; v/.7." 7 ■ ' ' :; Sir k'StOut moved tba^shV#e^e^ea>' its rising to-day, adjourn .till 8 i to-morrow. Agreed 'to. - ■ '"" 'PFj: ■''■. Replying to; questions itwasstafedthat • a sum would be put on the estimates.for giving a concession for..the «ncour6ge« ment of companies desiring to) work- the, bed of theClutha.riverifor -gold.' J That . Government were not aware of'any; complaints being .made ptf;tlie; question of putting police officers on tjie same footing ' as prison officers with regardtoallpftanw for uniforms and there wasiri'o-' resson ; 'to iucreaso tho pay of the police.' Thatjh? the number of gaols jn; Sew Zealand being so much in of that of Victoria was the cause of eitra expenditure in the liafc of prisoners' per head in New Zealand. That-Warder Furgosori, being an old officer of Dunedin gaqrof 25 yean standing, and boirig dismissed without : .notioe, a retirini? allowauci "was-taken into, consideration,and £6O wasjabout , •half what he should have eqt'hadwicen ' '■} allowedto resign; • Tfitt-thVwqrPfcenfr..-coUd put a eumonthb':''eafcmawi for subsiding.voluritary contributions raised by. associations for the purpb&ei of importih'gnatural'enemiesofiabmls;, f ;."•■■.■... Mrßichardfloh, said tho'- tiiiifencios of the public service' required fiat the Government should take up the'Bill .which stood in Mr Beetham's name,' entjpd the Railways VCHinstructidra Amendment Bill. ' ; :; ;i
The House went into .Committee on the Bill, which was read a third time Bnd passed, with amendments, the clause providing that railways" not be rated beinq struck out./ . ■■; '"■■..'; ■
The Rabbit Act Amendment Bill was re-committed. In clause 24;; -subsidy to be paid out of Consolidation Fund, the olause was. amended to lirnit'tbe amount of the subsidy "to; £10.000f'(n any- onie financial year.' The amount of subsidy under claußo 88"waa limited' to £l6O, The'Bil! was reported; read a third tine, and passed..; The Property Tax Bill. ? wa«. read d Bonend; time, and paßsed'through the remaining stages., '.- "•,"■'■ J. ' '■ Sir .Julius Togel," reading of the Public Revenueß«. He said he proposed to increase; tbelssue of Deficiency Bills By the- amount ef £200,000, which was partly'necessary on account of.fcho failing off jri.the rovenue, . Major Athnson thought'in the face of the statement ju«t made by the Treasurer as to a .falling off in "the Avenue, they were not justified in reducing the "jtijOr. tionby£l2,ooo. 'The; molsn was "agrlw to and, the Bill passed;:thriiugh its final stages, '," " : j Sir R. Stout moved the :House go into Committee on the Rfeprwohtatiou bill. He said if the populate basiß were nbfr agreed to by the B<pe he should riot go en with the. Bill, .fie haft received, ft memerandum from the .Registrar-General" which stated that the tSoiaus' returni would not be completed till the end if the year," Which would prevent the jlbuse' from going on with their duties till rfext year. He wished to say that he- should" not'proceed with the Bill unless, a: ; sub. Bteßtialmajority.pf the .House was)favorable to it. • Tho- reason vjiy he did rios go on with the Bill at in' earlier period of th 9 session was in consequence of his [Sir R, Stout's) illness, •'...• •, Mr Montgomery', thought the. Bill mould- be passed as, might: uppen which would necsgaitataraiZ to ihe country on the. present m\t of ■epreaentaHon,; He should like, tomsko. \ few; amendments, but'generally' he rould support the 8i11.,. '.-:'. y ■ ■'*•-■":
MrM&oaiidreff.Baidjt'fJiß eri^eint-by tho temper of the House that if th|s Bill got into Committee .some; weary nighti and very urimomous discussions would arise. Ho moved as .an, amendmflfr That it is inadvisable at'this late ptjnfa of the session that; the Bill should be proceeded with further until next session ..for/.the despatch of buiineEs not later than the.first week in Maynext.. ; ■ ;:/'■"/■'■'.;■,■■■ . MrDomie Stewart «aid they had a duty to perform in this matter, should perform thatduty' now. Ho, was trell aware that if it were, left tiUTieirt wssienit.wquld.behei4;6vertheir heeds in an .undue mann.eri,, ; ;l, . ,/ . Mr.Reid .asked whethV if the numberof;memb'erj.w?r(i..red«ood 1 .the Premier, would proceed with if, Sir R. Stout wonld.'say.frankly he did .not ; think : the ; numb'er!oj,membera would be the number were not reduced ha should, still go m with the In reply to jurtherquestions rra'.Mr Reid, he bop&l the •House would: w'eetTltv-April next year, would. be j^iifhs, was no necessity fesr the Bi^;tjufl y that the quei..
* ( con-.. ;X\ i-%^'. '■ vi : ?.?.':•••■ '^■•^iVvw^ivi'-';^ •' ! '■• •'■•■'.-' '<{-*', ft- Stoupahn'Ourieed, ■•' •v"-iV:.4 | i''^9!? ee^e 'i'' :ha'd-colp9 and MunicipalOorpor,.Rationfclla.; TheconferenceonthoLocal Billjiad hoVbecjvflblo to agree,' ' • • •'•• ■'■■■■ . vlMr Menteath continued his remarks on -tne'Represehtafion Bill. ,He asked what ' was.the haste for the uieiisuro that session and protested against so important a; Bill • bein? B'iovelled through, in 'the last -moment of the session, ".'. ; .. ijV',- The Premier said he intended to stand : vTp by. a population basis. ,In ansivor to Mr " v '"HtothoUßO he said tho majority required ~. .to induce him to go on with the.Bill was" ' '-aboutfire. ' .'.'.'. ■'.,[''.-'-. ;J Mr Bryco said botli'Govuvmrfont whips - v had been actively, canvassing against the Bill.' He- said tho present'act ceased-' ,;... > on December noxt year and if no fresh "'■'■ ihoasuro passed no election could bo held.. as Parliament expired on 'August 9th," ~ ~ 1887. ,It would be easy'for. a ;few uri- : -'ipriipulous partisans to block the moasufo ■ next session altogether. , The inference he drew was that it was absolutely neces- '.*' sarr to go v oii this session and it was -the the Government, to exert thorn"wffes in the matter, : -* After some further remarks the House divided, Ayes 36, Noes 39. Division :list,. Ayes 36—Atkinson, Ballanco, .Barron, '■■ Bruce,'Bryce,'Ruchanan, -W. F, Buck- . ; land, Conolly, Dargaviilo, Fergus, Fisher, . Fitzherberi, 'Futon, Grey, Hakuene, Hamlin, H. Hirst, Hobbs, Johnston,'. - '_. lxOtiki'i Macarthur, Mitchslson, Mont- . " Vgoniery, Moss,-Newman,'Peacock, G.-F. Rolleston, Stout, T/.Thomp 1 ' ■ Hf son, Tole, Trumble, Wakefield, Whyte &[■ Wilson. - Noes 39—Beviin, : Bradshaw, J':•'.Browii, J. C. Buckland, Cadman, Cowan;* ; "Dodson, Duncan, Fraser, Gore, Grace, Guineas, Hatch, Hursthouse Jovce, Kerr, Lance, Larhach, Levestam, Macandrew,- ; ".J. MoKenzie, McMillan, Menteath, ' ".'■ .'■ '. G'Callaghan, O'Connor, Pratt, Pyke, .'■' Reeso, Reid, ' E.''Richardson, Robs,' Samuel, W. J. Steward, Sutter, Taylor, ''''J, W.'Thoinpsun, VoEjel, Walker. Pairs , For—Moat,- Scobie McKenzie, Ormond, ;;' '■■■ Sfowart, Bectham,Smith, Hurst. Against . Harper, Iveas, Holmes, Turn-" 'bull, Pere, Coster.' ' '■ : Major Atkinson said he was not so sur: prised as he ought; to be, no more dis- . . .;.Pa c . e J u \ scene had taken place than' that ■ -just witnessed (uproar). The Premier had taken his stand on principle and yet ~ ~stoe of his own Government voted against V..,'. hjm; Let him adjourn the House atonce,' »nd tell thoso gentlemen who -voted' ■'--Ms lß ' ; him he could no longer work with "'.' .What could they think of his , . .'.aincbrity when they saw-the division car-
•'••ried'by three of his' colleagues •voting, ! . „ .aminst-him. .He detued'he .was anxious' 'jjL'tosee the Bill passed because it would.. ' lliadd three more to his foflowing as insin- , tiatcd.by the memberfor.Mangahua. He .= proceeded to point out that'tho last-act ..", was with difficulty carried though a--large , ' aajor-ity wore in favor of it,'and predicted ',- that they would have more difficulty next . bir Julius Vogol said the whole tenor .: of Major Atkinson's procedure this sessionhad been to fling himself at Sir- R,- . . Stout's, head. Personally ho voted against . the Bill, because he did not think there. ;-" was time to carry it this session. He ...' challenged Major Atkinson's right to criticise his vote. ".. Mr Turnbull said Major Atkinson had ~been hoisted with his own petard. It ■ wa'B not likely the .Govomment were .going'to pass a measure to'.bring him into, .'. power next session. ... Mr Moss said • tho only ■ reasonable'«rse now was to have a dissolution, and inovedan amendment to that effect.' • ...-'..Mr Rolleston said .the Premier was '.bound in justice to himself.to resign. He ... could not accepfc,Sir J, Vogcl's explanation that he had voted against the'Bill. .:becauEothere.was not time for it this , : . !sesaiou. For some time the Government been withoufc'head or tail—a misor.<w«ble corpse without life in it. The Mid- '. ▼ bnd railway had kept thorn in office for " " .the last two'sesßions, and the sooner the , s . House went to the people the better, He seconded Mr Moss's amendment. . Sir ft Stout said his original promise. ... had been to.give an opportunity of discussing the question, and even when he
.. introduced the Bill it was drawn in a ,;form 'to suit to suit this session or next. - It was not till the second reading that he . gave any promise to go on with it. After that he found Out there were some' tuein-
.bers' who, would support tho second but not the. Bill. Had he gone. oji, i Bill would havo been passed,.-but •not his. He had distinctly stated, and ~ .the Opposition had cheered him, that, it ..': was not a'party question, and he had- " never made a promise,;that'he-had not ~ JcepJ;, A Bill on the same lines would be '■ ';«ight down next session early,' as" the .. : / 'cßjvernmont measure, and he intended to "do his best to hiako it law, Hp would ~.' not. depart from jiopulatibn basis. Ho .... wished to say his colleagues would not have V '.".Toted against him .had this been made!, a. , ; '' r .j»rfy question. ''; As" for ; the .whipX ,; ho .;. .; had never known they'were expected to ''-. iurrender. all liberty of thought and wJSbienco, similar instances had repeatedly-' . ..occurred. ' / ' Mr MosV amendment was lost on the . .voices, and Mr Macandroiv's amendment ' ..'i'.whidh then -became.the substantive ; ; motion was put and .carried; .... •' . • ,'. V Tho supplementary' estimates wore con- ...' aidered in Committee,, A few itetnswero . :passed, and then tho Pyailways Authorisa- -' tion Bill jvaa'passedthrough all its stages, ' V Tho Houso rose" at 11.30 p.m.
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