LABOUR M.P.'s OUTBURST.

Taihape Daily Times, 27 September 1919, Page 5

LABOUR M.P.'s OUTBURST.

WORDS WITH MR ISITT.

VVELLINGT-ON, Sept. 2}.

Speaking on the gratuities question in -the House of Representatives this afternoon Mr H. E. Holland (Grey) began:

“In January, 1916, when, I -may men. ‘T1011: Ml‘ Massey and Mr W. )1. Hughes were meeting secretly in Auckland__ Mr Massey: What is that? Mr Holland: 1 said in Ja.nun.l~y, 1916, when you and Mr Hughes were meeting socx-ctly in Auckland".

Mr Massey: There was nothing‘ secret about it. Mr Hughes happened to be passing through Auckland and I went There to meet him. 311‘ Holland: There was this much secrecy about it that the censor refused to allow it to be mcntioned_ ‘ lII‘ L. M. Isitt! (Christchurch North): That was done for his §afety.

Mr Holland. It was made a. crime to mention that Mr Hughes was in Auckland.

Mr Massey: I know nothing about thaf. 1 .\lr Isitt: And it was done for “the safety of Mr Hughes. Mr Holland: And‘ Ml‘ Hughes camouflaged his departure from Australia, He said he was going by one steamer, and went by another——

There. was a further burst of interjeetions. and -the Speaker called Mr Holland to order, pointing out that he was wandering from the point. Mr Holland then recalled that in January, 19-16, when a. Labour_ Conference_,. with one dissentienlt, carried a motion opposing conscription, it also laid 4t down that the soldiers’ pay should be on the basis of the wages of the best paid arfisau. and also that pensions should he on a much higher basis. Mr Isitt: And how many did you urge to go”? Mr Holland: I would have been glam enough to have urged the hon". member to go if 1- tllollght it would have had any efi-‘ecf. ‘A further interruption by Mr Isitf drew from Mr Hollan the declaration: “I do hate rrtferly the Old man who never went to this war, or any other war,dan.r] shrieks about ot_h'ers who ought to go -to tlle_war.” Members’: But his s_ons'Went. Mr Holland: A man ought not to shelter behind his son’s service‘ ‘ Menlbe_rs: But his Sons fought for you. Mr Holland attempted to continue under a fire of intérjections, which eausedflthe Speaker to call for order. Mr Holland concluded by declaring: “If my son were concerned, I would not try ‘to take the credit of his service. I would let hini have the credit of his serviee.”V Mr Holland then proceeded with his criticism of the proposals]