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Southland Times, Issue 1049, 2 November 1868, Page 5

From our Cainpbelltown correspondent ire learn that H. M'Culloch, Esq:, B. M.^eld a sitting in the Police Court, in that town, on JTr^y^laat, . to hear two civil cases brought by Captain Ch .C. Budd, against Mr W. \^nglem, to jcecojrpr ; &• sum of £12; and against Mr \T.. Michael, for £6. These claims were made ; . by the, plaintiff upon the defendants as. balance of wages- alleged to be due him as navigator of the brig Amherrt from the Bluff to Newcastle, N.S.W., of which vessel the defendants. were part owners. Tha plaintiff was non-suited with costs. ■, '■ ] -.•$-. : The dispute between the Dunedin:nWiter Works Company and ■ the r contractor, ha»: been brought to a close. The arbitrators report is thus given in the ' DaUy Times'— "■ They found that the balances due to Mr Proudfooti in addition to £2^500 in paid-up i sharesi amounted to £5,777 2s 3d, and £1,040. His original contract price for the reservoir was £13,286 3s sd, while his claim for extras, amounted t0 , £14,438, 19s 9d t making a total of £27,725 2s lid. He had also made a claim for special damage to the amount of £4,300 ; there was also the' amount of the pipe contract— £l,o4o, making, with extras amountiug to £100, a grand total of £33,165 2t lid, subject to deduction of shares and cash] paid. The value of the shares is £2,500 ; the cash paid £13,933 18a 9d; paid into Court^ £472 14s; makina: a total of £16,906 2s 9d to be deducted from the Contractor's claim. ; - Ih* balance claimed by him is thus £16,259 0s 2di -The arbitrators have aUowed £R,817 2s 33, a sum less than Mr Proudfoot expected by £9,442 17i lid.

anent of the inspector — and considered ,fc i .thaiii iii- shftuldn ibft -flt rftU nviiTiif'd : "up .with the .general account, or applied to ordinary purposes. He had been jnfprmpd that although, there, was this large .balance in hand to the credit , of „t he account, the inapectpr . . had., recently applied for. salary due, and had , been unable to qbtain. it, presumably , because ' the? c were no funds. ....' '.„■. . '...The Psqyn^piAi Tbeasttbeb further explained that the inspectors salary was j^ted. by the Council, in f the. same manner ]$s jthat of .other, pfjjcials. It had not been ,paid because the last Appropriation Bill passed had now lapsed— notbecause there -and could not now be paid until the JBu\Lto be, brought in this had ,been passed. r , . . ' . ' . WORKS.. *: v^lrT/iiEEKE asked the Government to . place dn ! the table a return of all public works^ done without' having been tendered for, .since ,lst May last. r : Jl^H'^ttbe r laid the required return on the table. '^^t:^?l>KEi:i BAiLw^f. ..■,,. ,;',- --' j^Mtr Cle&ke asked ' the Govern ment Ss&at they 7 intend»ito do with., reference to t%e completion cfr 'otherwise of the r ©reti^ilway.' .^He. said the matter ( 3remame^".shrouded^ in doiibt^and uncer■feantv 'an<t he^ I^pughi; .it time the "Government Explained .their policy with reference to this question. It would be 1 .that jthe tJouncil were in f possession %f r tlLs, iullest^ iiifbrmatibn regarding the s^an!cMpps;tibn ;of, the/Province. They 'alt'feiew that the lowest tender for the 'comple^pn^pf the line was very low, and 'If Siat' tender 'was_still ,ppen for acceptance it might have great influence in determining the action, of the Council. The TbovinciAl Tbeasttbeb — Would th§ hon... member state the amount of , the tender?"" I, ■'-.' '/.'. . Sorne £15,000. • f *$he r PßoyrisrCiAi; TiEASiiBEE — Ho! hQ:f ijThis is something new Mr Speaker I 'was not previously aware the hon. member -liad been present when " the ;. tenders. iwere .said, to- ., have been ,opened. :£ will oaot ajiow P the,head „pf tn'e j&pyernment to, throw iany imputa- . tions^n my "phara^ter?7Tthatrcan staneffor 1 itself. "r ..(Ojii oh!) < Z became acquanted -tender, in the iame maJiniSß as. th^a, members ,pf the . Qi>yer^tmejQt . nmy [£ a V£ l ? Je P am : e . &WV& ?f \ifejx^^j6vs. lelge, ii> was , gwte,. public, and fireely spoken of throughout the town. a.^tTb^^BO^p^^^fA^TJß^—X threw neT imputations : oii ; the lion. member's o! el^aeter,^i^^ now "he became possessed of the ;mf.or,ma■^onj^d I, -repeats tba^the^wi^ele .blame, visu is any, restsj-wltibifit'he.'C^unpi^ ..for,, interrering witli the, 'ordinary functions of- the JSreguti^e^r IKd th.c : Goveimnent had v*& q ?&ft sips£ing5 ips£ing, T ,o£ the," .sort , cpuld .^ipssij^y l^yeJbappened..;. '<„,-,[ „ • . ~, v u T&&; Sg?E^Eß,r of; the l^Hq^lB n ,jcemafk;ecl ffifit the v memtqrs .of o iie J^.^y^nien^; i .^em^eive^ tb, c do \. f with the renders, and it was at their request, or 7 in of #§iii hesi%fpg. .action, : /:tbatp tfie ; Cpimqil Jbad.' interfered, at all. \ of f the',^Council .lie must Jrepiidj|ate aii;,blapie.. r , > •...,', .„. . ; ;\'^!£&,e'^ ..^easjjbeb, in ' 'repiy CT "r :) tp ( ....Mrv . pjterie's question, .jßai^, , ' Goyer^i'ment r . intendeTd , |r Yto «4?JEpjc 'fresh. Jen^ers. whenever J&nancial ",_^natte?s liad beenarranged^p as tp allow of j-smHl b.e^bg d^pne, ,and,"it .^svas ijheir. , inten."^^pn o the^^]jnle,ss 3 ,the Qpuncjl o dpqided I ,'o^ejr^ie^-^p" open in^ the 'vj&jjyi' jt^ presence ' p^ ..tenderers, 'and^submit "them to- the Bailway Enei!s%¥••{*s '."■'' f>' r^' T ' "•••• r, y ~ r ■■«■'■■ -:- ■ - " ' n r wherg -the Spe^er4eara,ed that .'.fiie did -not know 'what tp do ;; r TO^-t^e Renders,", ,;.„;.,',. ( ' rf;rr ,. ;<r , : U'-.i Kie^SpEAKEB learned^ it in the .th^e^secuta.ye had referred . .^.^niat^er of. ppehing the tenders to the 'jCo^cpr^p^could hp^.rjemember any arrangement whereby the : . Council had /resiKwe^^yitself,, the power, ( of dealing * , ; '^e^rem^embered a resolutipn ,;i^",teg^4?s s i9 n t^ l ,'^W<^ 116I 16 referred the V. JHofisp, 1 apprpying ]_ that no. arange,/^ejp^ahjO^C Jbjß .PPffle tp_ without; the I k^pwle^ge 7and ,cp|isen^ of^ the Council, „ Bj^i^ nptliijig^^inQrie^ •.consea.v\entiy the 7^|^mpjc€|y,erjfceji^;to^the r .jGroy.ernmentt,, . < " me^fanj^^re.^hjii^ auyp^e, else. ~ They n |^^%^S . tor the J. .iQßepi^g^J 7a 1 ; ':nxid^ '' rsei^vapfc ; i,n~ the' ; u^u,al '.$QSif S^jf c t^y t /;had i been "serrijptitpusly c^ol)^iae'^.&pm that bfficerjt . jwas ein^ply r.atgenq^c^m^^jwhicfcali tad -alike to ;,rfi|r^t. .,";^fb. , ;^gajd ; ,. to . the, .'calling .Jp^. tenders. '^when^ ,^not in., a posi'_[MpflL/.to jgpV on : with.., the works, he - would state "t^af.'thft Government was ftpirirniß to a*Bßeftain the pfobabift differeneeinifedstißcurred'between cash and land paymenta^" and— thafc it was not accept tenders . cpnditipnally. f ( B 'ooVerrihient had placed th^ ( tenders before the Council solely from '", 'a .desire to s aeceed to jvrhat were considered "ira wishes, not '"frpnv?any inclinatipn to - '° ''SSx'A^MßTßOSQ^saiS'the G^Overnm'ent T!: we¥S as much iff ' earnest-' as 'ever to have i^n;e B K6rtnelfe I lin^ f cdmplete'di- and' when ■ f §b :7 would 'immediately ' *'iM f^r ■ires : h%n i ae'rS;' i which 1 $b. 6y v w6uld o^not waitr'foirtliß opeH--unless it positively decided-otherwise I^ but open decide a* orice. a "TheExe^ * 1 :c6la«se jwdre' >ffiot^ca,ftaid v sof ith6> Gouricil, 41 thoughrdeairous ofTgaining dtsi approbatritiOßi^Taud'—would --.act independently! if.jfpecaßipncTauose; -c^. : . : ■, : : i , sm-jiv^t >--;t >. ; oi 1 5JhftnSpBA«EB tbpughtrthe^ bjtHU: >memiJ^<wj:9siWtev invspme.pf hjs.'re.m.arksj 'j;and ; lMss language, /threatening, faad v a^oof>'any^ ; -GExecutiye : in the sfich\iltfiailt tbiies. r 0 ■ 4&^B^-, tnorft o %} : Spea ker . ,)Ps!ffli§l%. ...put (OiVpraeP than ony : one t i;else& r ; i).f t jjr:a '.<.- h'-o! i '//iv. >; .' "I"--, -■ -> - ; ! -f> ; sqTE»yS^EAEEß f insisted'ori 'his 7 right to , flatter. ,_was allowed tp oxiiropi>£ i') ftftjiia fcurft hi v:<:- ~r/< b;.r. : .- ■; 4 AiUH s ,f.S >S Tlfc f '-*fc i "-f-o'.la -ivct! r-To'i-.-ii- •■ ■ j " h\i 2.£b,[£t. nl i-fovjtjzo jo -'I iro'tU i.l«. iu-M-^ ■■ j

I.EAVE OFAfiSteNCB. ■■r J£s^EAßSo2t^asked-4eave-^>f--abseß«B - for the, remainder of fehe session, for,Dr Hodcrkinson and Mr W. ,H. Calder, the former, on. uccpunt of ili-health, being unable to attend, and the latter requiring to be absent from th.e...Prpviaqe* ..Leave I was granted. ORETI BAILWAY TEITDEBS. Mr . Clebke moved—" That this Council views with alarm the evil consequences likely, tp accrue to- this, province from the fact that the tenders for the completion of the Ore ti Kail way were surreptitiously removed from. the custody of the Government, and opened, and they are of opinion that the case demands at the hands pf the Government a vigorous and pilblic investigation, with the view of criminally proceeding- against any person or- persons who may be -so liable." ■He "brought forward this motion, feeling it the duty of the Council, as representatives of the people, to give an expression of its opinion regarding this disgraceful matter. ' He did . not think the Government had taken sufficiently vigorous steps in. the matter.' .They must have- known, what every body else knew, that a certain contractor had been seen with a list of all the tenders with full particulars- in his possession, 1 and he ought at once to have been apprehended!- He did not think 1 such a step would have endangered the GoGovernment in any wayj although they might probably argue such a course Would' haye r ''placed- 3 them in a false 'position. The matter was clearly one for magisterial- -enquiry. It was looked upon? tmtside with feelings of horror and disgust. 1 It had cast a stain upon the whole province which would never be wiped out entirely, and it was >but fair; even to those partially implicated, that the thing should be thoroughly sifted. He did not altogether blame the Clerk to the Superintendent. He did not believe him guilty, but he had, through giving way to a failing, been made the dupe of others ; he had probably been 'hocus'sed.' It was clearly the duty of the Government, however, to trace the matter out. They should have inquired hv. whose company the clerk was that night until he became unconscious, and then traced the further movements of such parties. ~Had this, been promptly done the guilty person or persons would at this time have been in the Invercar.giH gaoi,instead fl bf being safely out of the- province, after throwing 'upon it an odium it would never cast off. He felt j strongly on this matter, and must express ■ himself as he> felt,^because of the rascality of-the" thing 'itself/ and* because-, in considering it, two ugly questions were unavoidably presented r to %he mind, the first beingr— "is this; the o first time such a ithingv has in Southland?" or '" is - it> only the' first time- it has been found out ?" The whole lafiair was r humifia < ving':"-ih rrr the extreme, and > hh r trusted the r Council would so express itself as to repudiate all blame, and, at the same ; tinier its ab-horence-and regret forwhat had occurred. He 1 was- 1 sorry -to hear Mr Armstrong express that the executive were henceforth determined to do as they liked, whether it pleased the-> Council or not. "If «uch was to?be the cas6 better have no Council at all;' He ? had also been astonished to: hear. other members of the Government throw »the whole-, blame of the affair upon* the Councils He was of opinion.that the'Co'uneil had-pnly! taken up the subject of' opening the tenders, in consideration of the long series of mis- ' takes, -or worsen which had occurred da connection with such things in the past. He still thought^ the Government to blame, for some of their number at least must have been' aware how' very far the oflicer entrusted with, the custody of the tenders had lately given way to a certain failing; and ought to have been aware that such documents were unsafe- dn charge of such a pereon. He • thought the Deputy Superintendent and the clerk* ''should each have had a key of the safe in which- .they were kept, in such a way ' that the papers could only have been obtained when both were present. It was for these reasons — want of ordinary care and prudence, ■ that he censured the Government. ' = . • • ..-•■> •''OJJj ': JoH^rsTONE, j in '-. seconding" 'the motion^ could liotrseeihowthe Council was'-?to blamieV Probably >neither any member, of- -the."? Government nor any other human being could possiblyhave foreseen -what happened. He thought it very illogical oh the- part of the Government' to argue that rthey could not be expected?- to. -anticipate: accident, and in the same ~breath ; blame the Council' for what :had ' ■ occurred. ' No harm could •reasonably have been expected to ensue on simply placing the ■ tenders on the Council '"table. With regard to the alleged failing of the> Superintendent's Clerk, lie must .say that he, for one-, had never heard of it before, still he did not look upon him as the guilty party. It was clear, however, that blame attached somewhere, and it was equally clear that it should be brought home to the right persons) He was therefore of opinion • that some suck-motion <-as:- the one now •before;thß House* should be passed. Mr .Daliß,tmple had ' not intended ' addressing the > House on this occasion, nor would he now • say much. He remembered long ago reading fable of the wolf and lamb drinking at the stream ho^HpT f thought : Government was i 'coming things' the same way, blamine the Council— the lamb — for ; what >!iEself,had?done. Of course, as -a member of the Coutacii;?he!must bear his share" of r.tjb£, blame. .Jaid' v uppn tliem. .-. ■■ (The Provincial Treasurer— ljfp, you are an, exceptipn.} Dairy mple. was gl^d to hear it? ', He had , ;been intimately acquainted •with? business propeedingsfor^hirt^-jeight yeafsj.but i^.all'tb.afc ,expjerience he had :never m^t with,papy thing equal, to .the .recent affajjT— he dj<^' not ! .knpw. ; w i hat f to call, , it~was, afraid ialgiyg.it name.,, lie ..felt aiflif^quJ,^} jp keeping/ gppjl, b e , Sj'^w.ft Hpuse..iiKe Jbhat jsiiuttiijig ,its . dp,ors ,uppn ,)h,e publij}, anpt expelling > seppr^ers, . "th.^ 1 tr^nsaetipn , ,pt , purely n public \

i business 1 . The Government knew months • asfo? -they-- ■ shiliing-to-spendv .What on earth then, had made them advertise the railway ? "Who would call for tenders to build a houu> when, he had not a penny in his pocket. (A voice — anybody, if he had plenty of property.) He thought the whole action of the Government resembled more, the manipulations of an expert at the pea and thimbles, than the straightforward dealings of an honest trader. A short time ago, he had warned the' House against this railway mania, explaining as well as well as he could, how things were likely to turn out, then advising them to farm the money they had. The Provincial Treasurer had then got up quite coolly and said that plenty of money would be forthcoming to employ labor, to make roads, and to build railways too. (A laugh.) You may laugh sir, continued .the hon. member, but < laughing won't do. Mr Basstian thought it would have been unfair to the contractors ■ had the Government opened the tenders while not in a position to go on with, the worksi They ought to have ; given notice of an extension of time, say three or four months. The Council was right, therefore, in passing his resolution at former sitting, and although the result at present appeared a very disastrous one, it might yet turn out a very good one. It was but right. that the ' Council should give those people the opportunity of £aking their tenders home with, them again, if they thought proper. Mr M'.Clure thought the Government justified in every step they had taken. By the course they proposed they would save a Whole season, and would be in a position to go on with the work as soon as - funds would allow. It was quite usual for tenders to be accepted conditionally, and in the present case the contractors themselves were quite satisfied, having passed' a resolution amongst themselves to that effect. Mr Armstrong felt inclined to sit still and -say nothing. He was getting so, accustomed to abuse he did not mind it much. Mr Dalrymple had spoken strongly, but his remarks were as false as they 'were flowery. (The Speaker thought false too strong a word to use in that House, and Mr Armstrong modified the expression.,, accordingly.) Mr A. continued— Btr Dalrymple had, however, been a consistent oponerit of tne railway throughout, and it was only to be ex,pected~tbat he, and others who thought with him, should r make the , most . of the unfortunate affair which had taken place. 'None' of the supporters of J the railway scheme had, however, seemed to think that the Government were to blame. With; regard to Mr Aylmer's reputed failing,* he might say. that he himself had. not been aware of it. He had always found Btr Ayltner do anything he had to do well. That his I 'duties- were -not heavy was not his ; fault. He (Mr A.) was not in the habit of frequenting bars and such places, where possibly Mr .Clerke had noticed .Mr Aylmer's weakness. He should be inclined to regard ths present motion as one of want of confidence, and thought the Council ■ should be- careful in imputiug anything to the Government, and wait until they had time to bring in a reporjb on the subject. . "Mr Pearson had stated at "the time ■Mr -Baastain's motion was >'>■■ under discussion that, the^ Government were, through, no, fault of their own,, placed in a very awkward position with regard to the tenders. They had every reason to i thatf n,edess»ry: AfundVwbuld have beeuforthcoming from the General Go vern- ! ment, .the £42,0Q0, which had been borrowed in excess . on account of the Province, but a pending ministerial crisis had temporarily interfered with business, xle thought they <bught to get this, money or what land they could, while opportunity offered. ;- It had beenjiist a toss up, whether Mr-Staflord^was in or out. he had decided to- remain in, but in the event, of' the other .party .^getting in they might find their land revenue taken away and spent elsew.here. It was a fa lacy to suppose that each province would only be called-upoii to pay according to its own debts; In the event of provinces being extinguished, which was : almost certain, the whole land revenue of- the i colony would constitute a common fund and he spent. -without reference to lpcality in which/ raided. They should, therefore, take all-they.Upuld get while. there was a chance. He had r thought ifc best, .in conjunction with Mr Badstian, to placer«the case fully and.honestly before: the contractors, and to" allow time to :see; what should transpire -at Wellington; The contractors, had met p and considered the master,' and-1 were satisfied. .Had the proposed course been carried out, the lowest tender would most likely -have been accepted, and there the matter would have ended. . He. would not like to vote either for or against the ; motion, and if put would leave L the House. He thought probably that the object of .the resolution was ; obtained by^the discussion-<which had already ensued, and that it h°d better be withdrawn*. It.cast a shir-.on the Government, ;when there was/, nothing to show- that the^ Government <were> not using every effort 1;o t have • the matter sifted, and- at the san^e. time it was well J it was brought forward as -it showed the people then Council wete-jalive to-their duties.,., ' ,•■•,:■, " : ' n- 7 .t<' : ■ ,Mr Daniel would. : m ot support the j motion until jepnvinced./ Government \ .deserved blame -in the ma.tter. >' ; „ / ; , , After- ,Bomei; further:, - Mr Basstian,..for the.rsatisfacfcion of : the. house, would ask the Government they wereitaking steps .to : find the: guilty ,parti[es^i ( ) ,<-Hi^. ■'•.ij. .-. ■•■:,-. ■. > -,■••. . ■ ; ; .The ; Provinoial Treasurer replied in the affirmative, andjheymotaonwas^then put in. the . .fallowing; 1 amended: t lorm :.— , '.' That: this Cpuncii, is, gratified .to Jearn that the;Gpvepnment is inakipg a vigorous :inyestiga^Lonj(with,^the" view; oi? proceeding against .; any .person or ; persons. >y ho, ■ may „be;l iable ,yj,mr'.;-!!{ ,::„■.,: hr';v ■ : . , i.Mr, Armsxron^ said the; emendations .made tppk'vSbVayija; great deajl ,thaf was ; p^jectionftble-^n thj&LjmpfciSii, bafc • :he was ?-!l!U'!'^aj:'. ; :!'MYihiiH!iiy-. ■?:•■''. •:■>■■•■'■<..: •:■!'.' i '

still of opinioa that its discussion was ■ra jirdirious," amd raigtit have a bad effect on the investigation being made. The' Provincial Teeasi7b.ee had no objection to the passing of the motion in the amended form, although it appeared to him unnecessary. He was amused ,to hear the mover, Mr Olerke, lecture the Government as if he had such an aptitude for busineds, when hon; members were so .well' aware how lamentably he failed in shewing such when he had an opportunity.' The slur attempted to be east on -the Province by him in suggesting the idea that this might probably not be the first occasion in which tenders were tampered with, was quite uncalled for, as everyone was cognisant of the fact that the custom always has been to open tenders at the last moment named for their receipt, in presence of contractors I and Engineer. Mr Clerke's original motion was then , withdrawn, and the amended resolution was also withdrawn. Mr Steuart asked the Provincial Secretary if it is this intention to cancel or temporarily suspend the order for the plant for the Winton Railway, pending information being obtained as to the future financial prospects of the Province. The Provincial Treasurer replied that the Government had no intention of -cancelling the order, although they had thought of suspending it, but that had not been done, as the order, being but a small one to-a large firm, was probably by this time completed. Fnrther, that a - portion ."of was required although the Winton line was not carried < on 1 , such as ■ two steam cranes for the Bluff wharf, and machinery for turning railway wheels, work which they had now to send.to Melbourne. Mr Pratt moved for a select committee, consisting of Messrs Ross, T. M. Clerke, Armstrong and the mover, with ■power to call' for persons and papers, to enquire into the general management and working of the B. H. and 1. Railway, with the view of reducing the expenditure and offering greater inducement for goods traflic. He said his object was not to interfere with tne Government, but rather- to strengthen their hands. It was generally believed that the ra^way might be : more economically worked: Mr Armstrong seconded the motion, which wasr carried. • --->- -r>^ On the suggestion of the* Provincial Treasurer Mr Basstian's name was "added to the committee. - - > " ' Mr Peabson presented a petition from a number of the inhabitants of ,Taystreet, praying that a portion ,of the reserve proposed to be constituted an Hospital endowment; might be set apart for, purposes of immigration. The petition was received and read* . , IMAGINATION SCHEME, Dr Monckton resumed the debate on Mr Pearson's Immigration, resolutions. Although a strong advocate for immigration, he had been considerably startled by the magnitude of the scheme of Mr Pearson. From its details he concluded the Government were. already in communication with some parties at home who \vqre prepared to carry it out. Mr Daniel had expected fihe ' : hon. member (Mr Pearson) would have said something about: the : adaptability of Stewart's .Island for settlement. As he had said before, that island was qualified to maintain a large and nourishing population, provided the' right sort' df persons were '•' sent- out;. The "class he j would like Co see thefee were: * capable of shipbulding, and.-., conducting v ,fisheries. The same class. were, the .shipbuilders of Auckland and elsewhere, and were moist valuable colonists. "They would return a large revenue to the Province, not only through using the unequalled- timber ' of the island in A boat and shipbuilding,, in exporting lumber, and such like, but in establishing and carrying on whale and other fisheries. 'It was disgraceful to this country, as well as a great loss, that vessels from. Other colonies should load with oil at pur n very doors. He learned that . from Hobarton alone, there were nine vessels engaged in whaling and sealing on! the coast of ' New Zealand, chiefly off Stewart's Island;- A ! few < years ago, „the: r e: , were.,t^r§e\v essels belonging to the New Siver, engaged in the oil trade, but now there were none^ As showing 'that seals were plentiful, he might state that recently a Maori-boat, after a short trip, returned with nearly 500 skins^each of' which was worth from. 18s to 21s in- the, . London market, while there were plenty of fish in. the waters far superior to the 'salmon, of which so much was said, and on which so much^ was spent. He would 'say import the right, class o t f men, and you- will soon stop, the importation jOf, a, great many articles of consumption for which money had now to be sent out of the Province. He would give them the land 'Tffee, ' and believed it would payr< to'lodo so ; -the island .would sujt.the/n, admirably, and they would, make their , fortunes,. He hoped the G-overnnient wpuld soon bring forward a scheme which would induce the right sort' to come and settle here. , . Mr- > I Pearson, ireplied, at considerable length. ,He agreed with, Daniel as j to the suitability of Stevvart's Island for Nova Scotian, or "similar 'immigrants. " He had no' particular -bias for Germans, but still hd • 'thought rehear: most desirable settlers* and etkat .they, would . tepnduce greatly, tp t;he, prosperity, of. the. Province. He recapitulated,, his arguments on ".' the labor question, ana^nought'rt would: be a good- thing to' give 1 • o£" land '■ '■ on deferred, payments to working*; men now j here, so that ; when ;. employment r , was scjarcethey^miglit qccupy .t^eir, n time no: tKeifown sections. ' '^ , ; f\ t ! The" TROTtNCLAL Treasurer; ' was 1 in favor of the general tenor of the 1 resolutionsj but thought sof.heavyu'a 'drain on the land , rev;enue,-_ within, such ;) a ... short time, might interfere with works' of^public utility. r tr " "''■' >: 't ' ""'..,/' : i' 1 -Mr v A*toß6Nd'' : w'6ulH < ''bupp6rt' the resolutions' if only to* Kow- his intense desire tose&,the jJProviiV^a populated..; He .thought, however, , ; $ bey . .were ( , casijle building. After , discussing, a railway scheme, which th'ere T \vas ndt^nipney 'to •..■nc.u noso -..i-.r:' roixeo?. o±vA m*.? ..

carry on, it seemed absurd to vote so large a sum for this purpose. Mr Pratt disagreed with a large porI tion of the resolutions. He thought any scheme might be managed by the Government, and could not see the necessity for the creation of new Boards for every project introduced. The scheme already in operation was, in his opinion, sufficient for the requirements of the Province, and he Understood that a number of immigrants were expected in November. If a Board was necessary he thought the Waste Land Board, not being overburdened with work, might manage it. Mr Pearson re-explained his object in placing the scheme in charge of a nonpolitical Board. He had no objection to the Land Board taking charge of it. In defence of the Germans he said they had proved good colonists wherever introduced. He would like to see the resolutions passed as an indication of pur views to i the General Assembly. The motion was tneii put and carried on. the voices, after having i been amended to read that pay- , ment of the £10,000 should only be made from monies raised from sales made from the block of land reserved for such purposes. Mr Pearson then moved — "That in the opinion of this Council, it is desirable that a special colonial scheme of Immigration, independent of any local efforts on the part of each province, should be at once undertaken by the General Government, (2) "That the Honorable the Colonial Secretary in 1 1862 published in the appendix to the journals of the House of Representatives 1863, viz : — the introduction of immigrants by the issue of debentures, having ten years currency, to be given to any firm contracting with the Government t6 select and ship immigrants to New Zealand. " That sections of land varying from 50 to 100 acres be given to such immigrants on landing, to be repaid by them together with the cost of their passage in instalments extending over a period of eight years. " That for the purpose of carry- j ing out these resolutions, and Act of the General Legislature should be passed, enabling such provinces as deisred to take advantage of the scheme. " That ■ the admihistratipn of all local * arrange-* . ments connected tvith the scheme be vested in the Board of Immigration established in each province, to which ' such immigrants be sent. " That a copy of these resolutions be transmitted to His Honor the Superintendent and our Representatives in the Assembly, with .the request . that they will use their utmost endeavors td obtain the initiation of sucli a scheme during— ther^present session o£th'^<J^erar r A.ssembly.' > He would nofr° detain the' House by supporting ibis motion, rin a long address. He did not propose to confine-the scheme to any nationality, his principle object being tpfeell thii land on deferred payments, by borrowing money -bii 1 'debentures running 'for 10' years at-6 per- cenfcu He had npr doubt Messrs Gpdefroy: ■. or some similar fir^m pr^fiems would ,take,. up., such , debentures, and send out the immigrants, "by whom the money would be refunded before it becanife'dufe by the Government. • Mr 'LoNGUEi? seconded the motion pro.fatma. > • ■-.• v^-, ■.:.•.:!:■■ •;■:» V-'r;;- >.->.v\ . Mr Joß^sTO^r thought., the hop. member naii wisely exciudea the " German element from this i resolution/ and that if -we had ariybodntd offer it Vm&ht iio be cfirst/pffered ito those^of our >wm blood. ys& were n under, .-great,., obligations: to G;rpat . protection, <fee, iy and should dffei. any adva^tages-^vre— liad-to-giveto h6r f: pe6ple first He believed in a mixecl face, but>'wduld •not l 'sike-I;o' r see ailarge body of^an aliea- face' introduced _ too suddenly. . ■-..-.,. •; ,^ . '., : , -, ■_■.< n L . : rMr Armstrong^ was afraid it would 'scarcely dpto entrust' the sending 60' of mi migrants tS a- Hiev cahtile 1 '- fif m', r which was not" likely to be ; Very- careful -iltits selection. , • ; He might &h-j weiU prder .» ton ] of books^nritho.ut gpe.cifyingi their character. He believed, however, .that a. colonial selie'me "was the "best, as the provinces 'Cried each other ddwfl in' the immigratidn market;' Southland iehad .suffered much v in lytbis., way^ nojfc ibeing represented a^-h0me.,,,; - „ ; :,' „.! r . , ir l Mr^Ro'ss appfdyecC^f the, principle of the ' iho f ti6h, ; but thought" the province could HJanagd it better" ffian the General Government.: Hej^was in^aJvop of ' German s . immisfran^S: as ; , Cl theyj 1 .were ; more settled ' jn,r their,., habits'^•tb^n^^^ pur, ,own ' countrymen, . vifho , were much . given fo rou'muig 1 about when 'they came to the colonies. r — ;'• ? '-<hv>-\ Mr DAlß'fi^LSf^ould like to see im-m-igrafioii TecomrnehdSa' 1 -^pfb 1 vided the n -right class came-^-the . yeomafi^dlais- o r f our own ; <i6tint]*y:' liNtie -sending dui^bf immigrants was entrusted' to a fiTm we shoiild most lik'ely ; ;'be'' supplied^ frdih German "poorhduseßi If land 1 ' was to 1 bp given away he thought those who were sfrere-aire-ady/Wdna^ bofne^He^ burden and -heat" of the ; day should.- come' in T6r ; a'share. ' ■''■'■ '■ '■ '' ' ''"'_ / -.-' -"' r!: ;'■ '' ! -"" ( "^ ; Mr Pearson replied that r ! wnat"; was iflkn^ie'd-wag^'d' callthe attentfoh-df the General 1 Government to"' the e fHBt J5 tBSt what We wa§ to'hafe>sbirf6'; fifmi at home willing td'aavaiftje Ih'e "money England >sa touchy the" the better. 1 M1p; : Dalf yniple^ was nnista^eh'^&i ' ' saying" Ke; wißhedf.t© givetthe lana ! kWayj^he' 'only wibheS' tP'Jsell- 'it. "'-Td 1 'see 1 ' a^family^ph ofSO/aldres 1 or \§o ( : '^^-aid' ndt'waitfc to 'see i'tpaWs 'ini^-the'.Bands of: sThdf Oap^df ' Gobti^'Ho^e^ I^and Quegnsfarid'lika 1 beeffl s'ippliecL with immigrants ;(y itliro6gh[ 7 if ' Messrs ■<&®fof&y; and hadfibiraa^hefi? selgdtions most»' suitable!' : ; The kamdn^rm^bulaftfo: doubt be equally 'cafefuroif^^ oiirnitelfests. 1 :> > j Mr Dalrtmple withdrew his m'tittbh 1 •feg&fdihg Catfle^ fDie>spa&- dtfhnp Being before i*hß^hoWe whiiin' woliid riieet lC tiie "ease. ■{. r; ; ; i^) % '^-"^'-> hßawitwrnoteo | >!•. i EiiEOTIoi^O^StfJPEBINTENDJBNTJi^ • ; Mr ! pALß.t&£PLß l^v^^'^ha^^tEe 'm'anner r of elecSing'a ' Superintendent l :ia (accoraancf ' I with t?? Jhe >i l (i 'New ; f lPrgvu!ices j L Actj ? inteff^res'Boljt injuribUs^wiili'tHe ' X-T l r.ii"97. : l''ibt bio^To r sH'ffr Kiirtiio [ siavolo \ •.itn'ir .'

free and independent election of membn of Council in "thTs" iProvince, and doe§ prevent eligible men from having a teat in this Council, simply because they differ in opinion with the majority of the electors of a constituency as, to who should be Superintendent. That there are instances whereby it would be impossible to elect a Superintendent by an absolute majority of the^ ; Provincial Council, without a compromise, of ptiti* ciple, and departure from that political rectitude and independence which should guide the public action of every member of this Council. That it is the opinion of this Council that the Superintendent of this Province should be elected in the manner prescribed by the ' Constitution Act' for the election of Superintendent or such Province. That the Representatives of Southland in the General Assembly be requested to give effect; to these resolutions, by having a Bill passed for that purpose in the, Colonial Legislature. That a copy of these rfeblutidiiS S& forwarded to the Honorable the Colonial Secretary." The hon. member introduced the motion in a speech of some length; Mr 'Johnstqne, in seconding, the, resolution, also spoke at length, but the feet that a Bill now ; before the General Assembly would probably 1 supercede all action on this" matter; "seemed to divost the subject of all interest} and the inotibii waß consequently carried without 'debate. The Pbovht ciai. Tbeastteeb moved the second reading of the ' Tolls Ordinance, 1 after which the House went into com. mittee on the Bill, and passed it seriatim. The House adjourned at half past. 11 o'clock, until 7.30 next evening. „