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RUGBYCOUNCII* AND: REFEREES’ ASSOCIATION. APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE TO ; REPRESENT iBOTII tBODIES. j Consequent upon the decision made by the Horowhenua ( Rugby District Council *at last-week ’a meeting to take over the appointment and control ot referees from the, Horowhenua ReferAssociation, a deputation from the latter' <body waited on the Council ■ on Tuesday, and after a full discuss- . ion the 'breach was healed by the set-ting-up of an appointments committee of three members—-two nominated by the referees and-one by the council. < The matter was introduced when Mr. J. Casey, secretary of the Council, said IHe had received'a verbal communication from the Referees ’ Association asking'that ;the Council should receive a deputation to put forward some workable ‘Scheme -which they thought might be for-the good of football in the district. > ' 1 On the motion of'Mr Casey, seconded by Mr . - Joyce, it was resolved that the deputation be received. It con:sisted of Messrs H. Eidson/ W. Peteis. T. Parata and J. Sciaseia, and was .introduced by Mr. Kidson. INFORMATION DESIRED.
. Addressing the meeting, Mr. Parata said that this year’the Association had -been formed as usual. Seemingly there ■ was a litlo trouble, a few Saturday s K ago, about selection *of - referees, and the Council decided to, take the selection into its own hands. In view of that action, the N Association would like -to know why it was not- allowed to Aeluect refereea as in past years. That was the reason for the deputation s presence; they wished to hear the Chairman J s views (in reference to it. After - that they -might be able to put som-: before the Council. S Mr. Peters-stated that the action ot .the Councircame as- a bombshell, the first intimation .being through tlie papers, - and the - referees were in the dark as to what the trouble was. Tha! ■njas oiie of the things which the de-putation-was present to find out. iMr Sciaseia-said he endorsed the •remarks of- the two previous speakers. The deputation was present solely for the benefit of the game; and not only that, but the deputation had been seir to the meeting, and whatever was done on this occasion would be_ final. They came desiring something in the nature of a round table talk. They had-a -proposition to put before the Council; and hoped that between them they would come to some finality. He did not think for-one moment that the Council wanted the job of controlling referees,- and he believed that the two bodies could come to an arrangement 1 THE ASSOCIATION’S METHOD. . j The Chairman . said that the reason why the Council decided to take over the appointments was , because they thought the method adopted by the association was not for the good of fooi...bhll. 1 No communication had reached the Council as to who composed tlie ariointment board. It was understood that an election was brought about of two members of the association, to be supplemented; probably by a member of ,’ ttie Council. Having no communication from: the association, the Council was in the, dark. All the Council had received,perhaps, was through street t£*lk. With regard to the appointments of referees, it was found thai allot of senior referees of past years .were left out, and referees put in for senior - games without any qualification -to promote them to that grade. This ‘ was simply experimenting; and the Council found that it could not be experimented on, and-decided to look for referees itself. AT A DISADVANTAGE.
iWith reference to the Council’s remarks concerning the absence of coniimunications from the .association, Mr. Peters stated that the association had a .secretary appointed at the commencement of the season, but he left soon afterwards. The association had a rule that the appointment board must be composed of non-active members, arid they decided to stick to that rule this year. There were only two members Who were non-active, and they were appointed. When that was done he had suggested that the association -ask the Council to appoint one representative to the board. They had thought that their secretary would geinto communication with the Council The next thing they knew was that lie hdd gone, and they had had no idea that any of this business was not done, until, they heardythe complaint from the Council. It was no fault of the association that a representative of tliCouncil had not been .appointed to the 'board. In regard to the appointment of senior referees, mention had beer, made of those who had served in past yeaiW Some of them, however, whom he had seen officiating last season, wen not suitable to referee a third-grade game. He tried out two junior referees last year, and they were as good as a man could wish to see. Possibly a mistake was made this year. He wa> nof on the selection board, and he was not criticising what they had done, bu: lie presumed the whole trouble was over the appointment of one man as a.senior referee. Personally he would Wit give a man a senior, position unless lv had served in the junior grade. In Hawke’s Bay i,o referee was allowed to; officiate in a senior match unless he haid 'passed with 90 per cent, marks in theory and the same in practice. This meant, perhaps, that only one man in fifty could get through, and so that district had the best of referees for senior .games. A man refereeing year after year in this district never improved; there were no means of coaching junior-referees—they were given a book of rules and were expected to learn them. Referees ,could not be inade here unless the association was in a position to teach them, And teach them thoroughly. He had seen the best of referees in most parts of the world, and
could say that in this district they had no more than three or four who were fit to take charge of a senior match.; It was the referees who made the players, and who also made the game from a spectator’s point of view. As far as the Council was concerned, it coul i help the association out very much in the matter of referees. THE APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE In answer to a question by the Chairman it, was stated that the appointments committee had consisted of Messrs H. Karauti and J. Rose. Mr Peters said the association was not satisfied with the appointment board. The Chairman: Then you could not expect the union to be-satisfied. What would the deputation suggest?
Mr. Sciaseia said that the selection of referees was the principal thing in football—more so than the selection of representative teams. There should be a sole selector for. referees, and he. should be a man who knew his job and was looked on by the football public as a good and popular man. The Chairman: I don’t see where he can be a popular man. ‘ Mr. Parata said he thought the Council should allow the association to carry on w’ith one member of the Council and two members of the association to form the appointment board. The referees offered their services gratis, and it was nothing but right that the Council should pay their travelling expenses. Throughout the football world it was well known that there was such a body as the Referees’ Associa-; tion; and the Council should allow this association to carry on. The latter had decided to dispense with Mr. Rose on the appointments board. He suggested that a member of the Council should be added to two from the association to form the appointments board. He believed that this practice was fol-' lowed in the Wellington Rugby Union. QUESTION OF EXPENSES. t Ref erring to the question of travelling expenses, Mr. Casey said,that apparently in the past the association had appointed men who had got there in any way they thought fit, , and there were times when their; expenses Avert out of all proportion to what they should have been. Mr. Casey suggested that an appointment committee of five be formed, 'consisting of two from 1 he association and three from the Council; three to form a quorum. (Mr. -Robson said that the referees’ proposals had not previously been put to the Council, and any hard treatment which the association had received was not the fault of the Council. If the Council had known what was wanted in the first place, it would have knoAvn how to deal Avith the matter. The association hoav wanted the Council’s co-ooperation and the assistance of one cr.tAVo members in appointing referees, lie moved that tAvo appro\’ed members of the association and one member of the Council be appointed to form the appointment committee. (Mr. Parata 3aid that five members would be too many. The association should be alloAved to carry on Avith the addition of a member of the Council on the appointment board. He suggested Messrs Kaurauti and Peters as the association’s x nominees. ?Mr. Rimmer said that one thing
overlooked was the matter of the spending of money. He took it that the Council would be responsible for all liabilities incurred by the association. There must be some ways and means for the Council to authorise any expenditure which the asociatic-n was likely to incur. -Mr. Peters said that last year he had suggested that the association select referees as near as possible to prevent travelling. This year it came up that some of the teams were not satisfied. With 12 or. 15 referees travelling every Saturday, there was a big expense. He was willing to leave it to the Council to arrange the expenses and to authorise the payment of them. The association did not want to be ti&ubled Avith the expenses at all. SMr. Rimmer said it would be necessary to formulate a scheme for expenses much on the lines that were followed for representative players. It Avould be better handled by a small committee from the tAvo bodies. (Mr. Peters said that the association tried as far as possible to get referees aAvay. The trouble could all be OA TercQme if the had the sympathy of the Council. 'The Chairman: The referees certain-ly-have the sympathy of the Council. (Mr. Casey said that what he had suggested would lead to a dove-tailing of the two bodies in the right direction. At the beginning of the season liey had had the experience of the tail wagging the dog. The question Avas, would they do the same again? It seemed as though the association Avas seeking to. “get one on to” the .Coum eil and make things as expensive as possible for this body. Mr. Peters: I think you are talcing the wrong attitude. Mr Casey: What man can take it on himself to arrange for for the different referees? This Council does a great deal of honorary Avork, and the balance is due largely to the efforts of those members and what they have paid out of their pockets. That £IOO really came out of the Council’s pockets. Mr. Peters: We have the same thing applying to us. On several occasions last year I ran referees to Foxton at iny own expense. The Chairman: To put the position plainly, this Council does not knoAv the officers of the association. Can we gel. them? Mr. Peters replied that Mr. Kidson was president, and also secretary pro tern. The Chairman said he thought they could get over the expenses part of th: business. Tlie point Avas the appointment of referees.
DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL. < The deputation then retired while the position was discussed by the Council . The Chairman said he thought that the whole position could be boiled down to the appointment of referees. Who was going to appoint , them ? The Council took it into its hands to appoint them for last Saturday and for the rest of the season. If they gave away this privilege, they might find themselves in the same position again. They had mo guarantee from the association
t ■ that it Avould not get into the same position later.
}Mr. Kidson said that the position Avhich had arisen had 'been argued out at a meeting of the -.association, and the only decision to which they could chme Avas to send a deputation to the union. If the Cbiincil took up the appointing! of referees in future, they would, get' about 6:members of the asso-ciation,-which would be wound up and the money handed back to the Council
’ Mr. Austin: said that the ’ association should conduct the ! business of refereeing /now, provided that ■ the Council could get a guarantee that the right people would have it in hand. The Cbuncil did not want to ihake a mistike by hhndihg back the' control to the-wrong folk.-'
(Mr. Robson said he agreed with Mr. Austin, provided, that the association appointed tAvo nffin of Avhom the Coun oil approved. It would then be the dhty of the Council-to appoint'a third man if the'.association wished it.
(Mr. Ryder supported the two previous speakers. He said! that iyhai Mr. Peter 3 had said about the position of Referees* Associations in the football world was right; but the local association had made such, a mess that the Council was right-in assuming some control of the referees. The association’s proposal was quite a good oni, to select two men to be approved by t he Council bef ore the- latter 'body appointed ;a representative from its own ranks. The scheme might be given a itrial over a certain , period; and if it was not satisfactory they might see 'flsOine other scheme could be worked. |The Chairman said'lie-must still contend that the Council should not experiment. < They should find out definitely whether the association was going to run.on better lines than it had been doing. If 1 the members of the deputation ■ were/going, to • be-overruled by a certain element in the association vvhatrguarant.ee was there that they were going to elect good men for the appointments board? By the unanimous vote 'of the meeting, on the of the chairman, seconded by Mr. Robson, the resolution passed at the previous meeting, depriving the Referees’ Association of th; rights of appointment, was rescinded. NEW COMMITTEE SET UP. The following resolution, moved by Mr. Casey and seconded by Mr. Austin, was then carried without dissent.— 'That 'two approved members of the Referees’ ’Association and one member J of ’the - District {Council be appointed to act as an appointments committee: (1) .To make appointments, (2) to notify the appointees, (3) to arrange- means of travelling, (4) to ‘ arrange for instruction of referees, and . (5) to authorise expenditure of moneys. It‘was decided that the appointments fdr Saturday next be-allowod to stdnd. The deputation" were calledhack, and the Chairman announced the result of the Council’s deliberations. Mr. Peters said, *‘l think we are mdre than satisfied, and I would like to thank the Rugby Council very- much for falling in ‘with. our views. , I don’t think there would be any likelihood of any friction or trouble occurring again. The only troiible was in • not having
the secretary available just at the start of the season.” '-Mr. Sciaseia and Mr. Parata also thanked the Council, the latter stating that the Council’s representative on the committee would not be over-ruled in his suggestions. ' . • . ‘ iThe Chairman, in reply, said , tli? Council thanked the deputation for haying come along to adjust the position m. which the two bodies had found themselves. The Council was there for the good of football, and he was quite sure that the deputation had been present for the same purpose. '.The deputation nominated Messrs Karauti and Peters as their representatives on the appointments committee, add the Council elected as its member Mr. J. Casey. '
OTAKI V. WERAROA—A DRAW. This game,played at Otaki on Saturday, does not call for special mention. The Weraroa team \?as bjr no means a brilliant combination, while on the day’s play Otaki was even worse. . -The collaring of the local team was lamentably weak, players making but feeble attempts to take their man. Their kicking, however, was good, "but passing was by no means strong, in fact would, at times, not have done a school team credit. Weraroa also lacked dash, but cheir passing was brighter than their opponents, while the forwards put more dash into their play, time and again smothering returns. At times there was spectacular play, but it lacked finish. From the kick off Weraroa, favoured by a slight wind, attacked, but it was not long before Miles was prominent in ,a solo effort, which was the means of Weraroa being pressed. The pressure, however,; was short-lived, and Wferaroa, by a fine combined rush, carried the ball almost the length of the field, and within “five minutes had a score, Holt crossing the line. Phillips kicked a poster, 3—Q. Weraroa. kept up the attack, due, largely, to faulty tackling and slow returns on the part of the Otaki backs. Wi Marino, who was head and shoulders above any player on the field, was the means of starting a rush, and assisted by Bevan and Kehu, the ball was taken up field. Prim and Enoka later took a hand, and Weraroa were pressed. Then came a passing bout by Marino, Prim, and Campbell, but the latter was well collared. Marino later made a fine fun securing the oval, headed towards Otkki’s line. From a free kick Phillips added-another three points to Weraroa's score. Later, he missed the uprights, but the attack was kept up till Prim made an opening. Running well* he’passed to Enoka who failed to cross the line. Towards the finishing stages Marino, ' by solid play, scored, but Prim failed to add the major points, 6—3. The second spell was*on a par with the preceding one—patchy and play was not of a high order. Otaki lost a good chance early in this halt, while Weraroa led off with a forward rush that did them credit. Owing to wekk tackling the Otaki line /was endangered, and Marino was called, upon to 'save. Cadwallader, a few minutes later, made a bold bid for the line, while Bun Tahiwi had an unsuccessful shot at goal from a free kick. Then came a reverse and again 3VeraToa at-
tacked, and Phillips kicked a line goal, 9—3. Then came solid forward' play on the Weraroa line, and Otaki .lost a likely chance by off-side play. Bevan and Enoka made a bid for the line, but a ! faulty pass spoiled a chance, but, the attack was maintained. Further -forw'ard rushes by Weraroa saw Otaki defending, arid had it. not been for Marino they would have scored. Here followed several “casualties,” Weraroa men falling like nine-pins, for the next -ten minutes. Playing with M men they were hard pressed, and a good passing rush by Marino, Prim, and Campbell saw them well on the defensive. The latter eventually crossed the line, amidst applause, but Bun failed to convert, 9 —6. Spurred on Otaki played hhrd and play became exciting. Prim aiid Campbell were again in evidence but Weraroa’s tackling was sound. Marino, however, quickly seized an opportunity, and ran over the line to equalise the score, the kick at goal being a failure, 9 —9. In the*dying stages "of the game Weraroa pressed but failed to pierce the defence. Mr. E. Bevan refereed.
“The backs on the Otaki side were patchy, but Marino, played a splendid i game. Both on the defence and - attack he played well. Prim, Bun, En,oka; and Campbell did well at times. The forwards lacked dash, but, oc-. casionally, played creditably. - Joy and Cadwallader proved a help. The Weraroa backs were an even lot, while the forwards followed up well. Their scrum work was .not too ’■ good.
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