HOROWHENUA RUGBY UNION.

Shannon News, 11 July 1924, Page 3

HOROWHENUA RUGBY UNION.

WEEKLY MEETINQ. The weekly meeting of tie above Union was held last night. Present: Messrs E. Nash (chairman), T. O'Rourke, S. Austin, C. Dimock, F. Robinson, J. W. Rinimer,. J. 0 'Connor, and L. S. Carmichael (secretary). An apology for absence was received from Mr. Hardie. Report. The chairman reported that the deputation that waited on the Otaki Borough Council relative to control of the domain had been very favourably received, and that the wishes" of the Union had been granted. Protest. The secretary of the Hui Mai Club wrote protesting against Rahui's win 'against their juniors on Saturday on the grounds (1) that it played Moki without having his clearance from the Porirua Club, and ('2) that Moki had been classified as a senior. The Porinia Club wrote to the effect that Moki had fulfilled all requirements VlmMo the club and was therefore free to play for any club that he desired. The secretary stated that the letter had btecn written on the 4th and had reached Ltevin on the 7th. The chairman asked had Moki been classified and was assured by some members that he had been.

Mr. O'Rourke asked had a copy of the protest been forwarded to the Rahui Club. Mr. Dimock said the Rahui Club had been acquainted of the fact that a protest would be lodged, while he, personally, had told Rahui members before the match that a protest would be entered if Moki was played. The secretary stated that the rule relative to classification was different now to what it was last year, and pointed out that Moki played as a junior in Wellington this season. .Mr. O'Kourke said in the first place the Rahui Club did not know Moki to be a 'senior player, while Moki himself did not know that Ire had been classified.' The Rahui Club had made full enquiries and had been told that Moki was a junior in the Wellington j Union and also that he had played junior last season. Mr. Dimock contended that Moki knew well that he had been classified as a senior, and Rahui had been told of this prior to the match. Rahui had assured him that they had all the information necessary. Mr. Dimock stated also that he had told the referee of Moki, and had told the Rahui secretary his club would play under protest. He maintained that Rahui would not have got the clearance had they not made a special trip to Porirua for it. * The chairman said h'e was-satisfied Moki had been classified as a senior. . Mr. O'Rourke said Moki was classified in August and had then left the district, not knowing of the classification. He had played junior for Porirua. -Mr. Dimock stated that he had asked Mokr if he would play for the Hui Mai seniors and Moki said he would do so lifi.vhe'could -get a job; Ho considered Moki one of the best of players. Mr. O'Rourke considered if any penalty was to be inflicted it should be on Moki and not on the-club. Mr. Robinson considered that Rahui had been properly cautioned before-the match against playing Moki. Mr. O'Connor said if a man was classified as a senior, he should apply to be reinstated, otherwise he was still a senior. '

Mr. Austin agreed that Bahui had received full warning, but Mr. Q'Rourke maintained that Bahui had ■*" done.their best in the matter and had

gone to no end of trouble. Further the protest was out of order, the Rahui secretary not having been notified. The Union was over-riding its own rules. Mr. Dimock: That was only a clerical errorl

A deputation, representative of the

Rahui -Club, was then called in, and Mr. Tooby, spokesman, asked that the protest be read. After hearing it he stated his club had not received a ,copy\ and therefore the Union should not go on with it.

\ K The meeting agreed that it was ad- ! visable to go on with the matter. ! Mr. Tooby then stated that he got a letter from the Hui Mai Club stating that it was going to lodge a protest, | but he contended this was not in order, further it did not prove that Moki was a senior player. The onus was on Hui Mai to prove he was a senior. They admitted that thpy had been warned by Mr. Dimock against playing Moki, but he held there were no records to show Moki had been classified as a senior, further Moki played in the Wellington Union as a junior,-while a clearance had been obtained on July 4th. Mr. Dimock: Is it a fact that Rahui delegates went to Porirua on Sunday? Mr. Tooby: Yes! The Porirua Club informed us that Moki had fulfilled all requirements, while the Wellington Union's secretary had informed him Moki was a junior, and he thought that their ruling should be accepted. Mr. Carmichael: It is quite likely Moki played junior but may have known that he was a classified senior. If Moki kept the information back he was to blame.

• Mr. Robinson: By Moki playing as a junior in Wellington does not make him a junior in this district! Mr. Tooby stated his club had communicated with the Wellington Union because it was the last Union Moki had played under. He had done his best to find out. that Moki was a, junio?player, and had not consulted this Union because he thought it advisable to go to the Union where Moki had last played. Mr. Carmichael considered the Rahui Club had worked hard to find out if the man was a junior, and was not to blame. Moki, he considered, was to blame.

Mr. Tooby: Moki told me he had never been classified, and I have hunted back four months to see if mention was made in press reports but could find none.

Mr. Robinson: You should have written to this Union! Mr. Austin considered the protest was in order.

Mr. Carmichael maintained that, the club was justified in playing Moki, but admitted that a breach had occurred In view of this he moved that the match be re-played and that IJoki be dealt with.

Mr. Dimock moved an amendment that Hui Mai be awarded the match and that Moki be dealt with later. He considered a firm stand should be taken. Mr. Carmichael held that the Rahui ""Inb had played Moki in good faith, and considered the blame was on Moki. Mr. Austin: The Rahui Club had a doubt over Moki and should have applied to this Union for particulars. Mr. O'Rourke: Mr. Tooby did not know Moki was a senior player till Mr. Dimock had told him on the day of the match. The amendment that Hui Mai be awarded the match, was then put, and on the; casting vote of the chairman, declared lost.' Those voting for it were Messrs Dimock, O 'Connor, "Rimmer and Austin.

The motion that the match be replayed was carried* the chairman again being obliged to give a casting vote. It was agreed that the match be played at Manakau. Moki Suspended. Mr. Carmiehael then moved that Moki be disqualified for thp remainder ; of the season, pointing ' out that he I should have notified Bahui Club that he I was a senior.—Carried. Matches to Start Punctually. Mr. O'Connor drew-attention to the fact that matches were started too late in the afternoons, and pointed out that spectators waited from 2.30 to nearly 3.30., His club was one (< f the chief

offenders but the management of the club could do nothing—it ijsmained for the Union to take necessary steps to have matches started to time. Teams generally had to wait for two or three men who loitered about th|a town. He thought the Union would be wise in allowing ten minutes grace to visiting teams and five minutes to home teams, and considered referees should be instructed to act accordingly. Mr. O'Rourke moved that it be a recommendation to the Referees' Association that all matches start punctually at 3 p.m. Mr. Carmichael agreed, and the motion on being put was carried. All Blacks' Match. ' The Manawatu Union wrote relative to the combined Manawatu-Horowhenua team meeting the All Blacks at Palmerston on the 26th and considered the team should assemble at Palmcrston prior to that date to be coached under Mr. J. Ryan. Mr. O'Connor considered the team should be picked at once and thus give players an opportunity of getting into tip-top form. It was . agreed that the selectors from each Union meet as early as possible. Mr. O'Connor was appointed manager. Unmarked Grounds. Mr. O 'Connor mentioned that the We-raroa-Rovtsr match had been played on an unmarked ground, causing confusion to the referee and, line umpires.—Secretary stated that one club had been written to on the matter. School Matches.

Mr. O'Connor, in making reference! to school boy matches, said he had reived in one game when his attention was drawn to a boy oyer the age limit. In consequence of this the boy had to go off. Later he was told that th Foxton boys were playing lads over the age limit. —Mr. Robinson promised to look into the matter. Fourth Grade It was decided to play one more round in the fourth grade competition. Wanted—More Matches. The Shannon Club wrote complaining that they had been overlooked regarding matches on their ground.—Matter held over till the Shannon delegate was present. ' Austin Banner. : The Foxton School put in a challenge for the Austin banner.—Received. ', An objection* was lodged to the con-; clitions of the Austin banner which de-! barred certain school lads from competing.—Decided to allow boys to play as long as they attended a primary school, up to and including the 6th standard.' An Otaki Application. | Mr. W. H. Bowden, secretary of the Huia Hockey Club, wrote asking to be| granted a day on which to charge for a match with team. —Mr.! O 'Rourke considered the Union would' be only too pleased to assist. —It was decided to ask the club to arrange a date and then submit same to the Union.

Re-Hearing Refused. The Tokomaru Club wrote asking for a re-hcaring of their protest.—Received.' A Referee's Criticism. j: Objection' Was taken to an Otaki re-' ferce criticising the action of another referee while doing duty.—Considered., a matter for the Refere'es' Association.! Explanation Wanted. ; Mr. O'Connor stated that the Paraparaumu players had come to -Levin "thl had got no match, Rovers defaulting. He considered 1 the visitors should have been told before making the jour-, ney, it was not fair to them, and he, i considered something should be done ' to stop a recurrence. It was a hard thing for boys to travel that distance at their own expense, and then get no game. Paraparaumu, he said, was one > of the best sporting clubs in the Union. ; Mr. Carmichael moved that the Rover ' Club be asked for an explanation, while /

another member suggested the Rovers be asked to pay all expenses. North, v. South. On the suggestion'of Mr. O'Kourke it was decided to play North v. South trial games (junior and third-class) on the 2bth. Mr. O'Rourke pointed out that Paraparaumu were a good sporting crowd and should be given encourby playing a game there. He moved thac the junior match be played there, and the thirds at Levin.—Agreed to. 6 • Balance-Sheet. Receipts—July Ist, to club gates, £l4l Os lid; to Manawatu-Horowhenua, Foxton, £32 10s 3d; July 2nd, to A and B. trial, Levin, £5 18s; to Hui Mai, 1923 balance, £1 Is 6d; to insurance of piayers, £3l 3s; to affiliation, £lB 18s; to donations, 14s; to protest fees, £2; to refund N. Z. Railways, 13s 4d; 'to N. Z. R. Union's grant, £l'(i; to P. 0.5.8. 1923 balance, £4 18s Id; to interest on above account, 2s lid; to Wellington R. U. R. fund. 1923. £ll 9s «jd; to balance Bank Australasia, 1923, £6 ll s sd; 1924 bankings per B. S., £266 13s 8d; actual nsceipts, £266 Is; total £272 12s sd.

Payments—July Ist, by Referees' Association, £5; by school footballs, £l9 10s; K by N.Z.R.U.affiliation, £4 12s; by petty cash, £6; by taxi, 7s; by referees, £1 13s 8d; by N.Z. Sports Depot, rep. jerseys, £9 10s Id; by advertising, £23 ! 9s 8d; by wreath, W. Bevan, £3,25; by 1 insurance, £10; by exchange, Shannon : cheque, 6d; by Foxton B.C. per cent. Manawatu-Horowhenua gate, £4 17s 6d; by Foxton B.C. gate keepers, 15s; '. by protest fees, Rahui, £1; by Manag-i ing Horowhenua-Manawatu, Foxton, £2; by sundries, 15s; by' advancement Manawatu R.U. and N.Z.R.U., £l4 8s 2d; by 1923 B.S. liabilities paid, £l4 12s 6d; by balance, £l5O -9s 4d: total, £272 12s sd. Gates, per individual club—Levin Domain and grandstand, £64 19s Id; Foxton, £27 16s 7d; Hui Mai, £l7 19s lOd; Otaki, £l4 lis 2d; Shannon, £9. 8s 3d; Miranui, £3 15s; Tokomaru, £2; Moutoa, 6s; Awahou, ss; gates per rep.) FOOTBALL NOTES. SHANNON'S MISFORTUNE. The Shannon Club hag been unfortunate this season in losing so many men through accidents. The Seniors are without Wallace and Bartholomew and the Juniors —Wilson, Taylor' and Johnston. Of the above, the only one likely to he available is Taylor. Frank Wilson has left the district and will j be much missed by the Juniors. He was a first class player and was picked for the Junior reps. He could play forward or back. A lot of interest is toeing taken in the return match between the Foxton 1 and Shannon, Juniors to be played at Foxton next-Saturday. P. Cole will ; be in his usual place as hooker. Millar should be tried as half back, having previously played in ithis position, and Gray Would strengthen the teams by playing five-eighth, providing Taylor is not available. If Taylor plays,. Gray could play wing three-quarter, \ where there is "a weakness. With [these alterations a very strong team. | would take the, field and should-be ; ' superior to previous teams <his sea- j : son. j TEAMS FOR SATURDAY. I Shannon Thirds to play Foxton at • Shannon next Saturday.—W. Eastern; B. Holden, T. Holden, H. Pentecost; M: Dalzell, F. Pi card; T. Humphries; C. Robinson, G. MoEwan, S. PentiB. Berry, F. Kilmister, W. Hibell, ■ T. Bowler, Woodmass. PILES—"EVERY CASE CURED." "I have strongly recommended your treatment, to sufferers from piles and I don't know of any case it has failed to cure no matter how bad the case was."