Correspondence.

Rodney and Otamatea Times, Waitemata and Kaipara Gazette, Volume 1, Issue 14, 5 July 1901, Page 2

Correspondence.

TLa columns of this jGnniul aro open tor ihe disayaskm of all Babjocts but wo do necasarily identify ourselves with ;t&s dpini^Vft Bxpresße(f. - ••• >

TO THE EDITOR . I p.ir, WoulA you kindly, a^iow me a shqrt space in your" esteemed jouiTal •o air one one of the grievances' of a back country settler. I refer to the nuisance of cattle straying on the road 3. Last Saturday I counted no less than seventeen (17) head of cattle aB/Ltliree(3) hoaxes, on the^csd le,ading.to KsiparsT Flats iWest, (between Morrisons gate and the Jordan turning, |ihout"two rnilos) 'aud tliis morning, .Ayednesday, I counted twelve (112) hifcad of cattle. little Ago tjie Upper Mahurapgi Epad Board expended koine considerable sum of money in opening out water-tables etci. and now. they-are simply allowing the rates^to be trampled in the mud. Ilm nuisance, occurs annually when feed begins to1 get short, but I maintain that should be allowed to graze. cattle?at the expense of the roads and the community at large. If people are overstocked let them sell::the sutplus. Lthicik-it is about time;that tiie Upper Mahurangi :Road Board woke up to tike fa^st ihat :the -settlers have had enough of-tiisr.Letihempi^fe the impound! tig in force < .: Tlianlsit.g»you in anticipation, ■'?. I^iam,. : Yows*ete. - * ... , "SfefrMy" i KaipaKe/J'latsJuly 3rd. 1901. j

Sir, It may-j&ot be generally known that when .the new road that is being madeirom the tP.uhoi valley to the iMakaaau station, 'is.finished. The rail' [way will become.accessible at once to the residents of :this toWnshig, which, will bq,a .distance of ten miles-only by a.good .graded raaxj-, if the would but spendsar few pounds to put the cliff-bridge road in repair. This road branches off >to the right of the main north soad*at Weeh's farm, five miles from the township and leads into the Puhoi valley. It was fotmed and bridged by the J&overnment as part -of ihe main north rdad, before the «iew diyiatioai was jnade, and it will now beeoßie one of the principal feeders .to .the railway, giving.a direct access to"it from Huhue. The railway is as near now as it can be, untill it reaches Kaipara -Flats, when it will be within seven miles of .the township, but it will be years before trains will, be running to the Marts, the present^ rate of progress iv its construction. Contributed.

Ahttroa. ; A meeting of the Executive Committee of the Aliaroa branch of the North AueMandJß airway League was held an Jmie 29th, Eleven members were1 present, Mr. T. 0. Jenkins in th# chaiiv "The ininutes of last ~ meeting1 were read and confirmed. This feeing? an annual meeting Mr. Burns propose ed and Mr. W. L. Sanderscn .seconds ed That Mr. A. Woodcock jnr.. be; chairman for the ensuing yeah Carried unanimously, s Letters wereYead from the secretary of the Port Albeit branch, and secret-" ary of the North Auckland' Eailway League, also two tellegrams from the Minister for Public works. Draft of letters in reply to North Auckland Kailway League, Bert Albeit Branch, and. to Mr. R. Monk: M.ILU, were read by the outgoing! chairman, and -were approved of by the committee aaad authorised to be. sent by the present chairman, he also to write to the Minister for Public Works urging that the working survey of the North Auckland Railway be put in hand at once as the present works are within half a mile of the end of the survey. : The chairman and Messrs A- D. and 3", P. Martin were authorised to attend any meetings that maj be hold at the Kaipara Fiats for the purpose of pushing the further extension of the xtdhvay. The date of next meeting wrs left to. the chairman. This eaded the meeting. Mr. Geisow, the engin^or in charge, moved to Aharos from Makarau last week, Aharoa is getting quite a township the ■Government cot age, Mr. Drinwar's store, a good few tents, and| several pairs g1 housos of the early coloniol c-rficr of <irchicecture. Tho work- hi the tunnel is progressing in a satisfactory manner and nearly all the mon have shifted to the north side of the tunnel. A rawting- t>£ the Aliaroa Road Board tool: place on Junu 29th, Present Messre AY, Ij. Baudfrson (Chairman) "VV", H. Taylor. A. Woodcock jnr. and C. C. Woodcock, The nrr;iilt)3 of last meeting wore read and confirmed. The chairman reported thai he had written to the chief engineer of rusiis, applying for v grant of £300 to improve and metal that part oithe Puhoi Makarau road between the Ahuroa station and the Araparira bridge, and for the sum of £200 from there to the Burnt Patch, A letter was read from the engineer snyisg that engines weva being made with a view <s£, considering the same. by me clxairman and seconded by Mr, Tt»yl6r, That Mr. A. WoodCock jjnv. inspect contract No\ 42, Proposed by the chairman, Bccondod by Mr. Taylor, fliat accounts amounting to £5 10s» be paid.Oor.it.n*.fif. No, 44. 2?o tender waa received for mis, svxi

fresh teaders were ordered to be called icx at nßZ.it meeting. Cc=aticact No. 45. One tead«r wes iec.os.ved, viz. A.i W'.'.Sandwsyn.X'l. Proposed by Mr. A. Woodcock, seconded oy Mr. C, 0. Wdbdsock That it be accepted fiad iihat-Mr. Tayjor inspoct the samo. Proposed, by the phairman, second* edby Mr.' Taylor, That.: the 3&>ad Board at ihe • next meeting make a rate pi £cl. jn tlie £, Proposed by Mr, A. Wobdcoek and seconded by |Mr. C, C. Woodcock That &r, TaykV and the chairman get. ; the Tater-rtables* for the-galley-road and the'Puhoi. and Matakana roads cleared out. T

(Own- Correspondent.)

/ "society, , A oi-the above society was held i?i the If asonic Hall, WarkVortli, last -Saturday.. .Inhere- were^'present, Messrs Sainsbury (Chairman) Dib£ : % Hood, .KLctg, Meiklejohn, P. Martin,' Seandrifcf-, Ghas. Thomson „&&& ..the , secretaty. The minutes of r sast nieeting were ' read.^nd confirmed and < ike \ following .accounts passed for payments— To Mr. Coleman, (Solidtof);.£7 17s. 6d. , King Broe.. £6 -9s. Mr. 0. Thomson £i7s.. .; "• -.. •;,... Mr. Ho d proposed and Mr. Mrrtiri i seconded that a vote 4f thanks be .awarded to r the King Borthers, for donating*to;th.e Society *a large number of battens. Carried unanimously; To enable.the secretary-r£o arrive at the cost of the fence erected on the secretary's, grounds, Mr. 0. Thomson and Mr. MeikhVjohn agreed to measure it. It was then agreed to give Messrs^ ■Walker 'and Soung legal, notice tto fence their respectivd property -adjoin-- ; mgihe,;show ground. The Chairman then invited i discuss- ; ion,'onithe idea of establishing cream? I cries in sthe distiict, but on the motion ,of Mr. Hood it was 'decided to letithe . subject stand over some future [ meeting, , The Chairman gefltleineii'si , attention 4o .the rajpid. way in whabh weaslesiare-spreading in this district] : Mr. Hood and several otherigentlemen I spoJre etronglj^^gainst them. Ms* ; Sainsbury (chrirrnan) proposed -and ; Mr. Hood seconded, That the secretary; s- be authorised-to write to the Minister .of Agirioultijre (through, /the member; 5 for this district) to grant some prize [ for the extermination -of weasles.; j Carried.

Mr. Scaiidrett tnought that people should get some encouragement for the extermination of hawks. •The ; chairman said =tbat these birds me more numerous than ever /they have been before and the destruction caused by them anfong the lambs is enormous., Mr. Scandritt proposed and Mr. Salisbury seconded that the secretary be instructed ;to write to tlie Acclimatization Society asking it to grant something sub»t£incial ,to those who kill hawis. Carried, i ' ; \ i Jxiie next ineetin^ie be heM on th| 27th. of this month. The principle? business ■: to revise the present business schedule.

THE MAMUBANGf BAUD OP HOPE.

After a silence ©f nearly two years the Band of Hope met in the Masonic Hall Warkworth, last Friday but ewmg to the unsettled weather it was' not so well attended as usual. The' Eev. GK Frost occupied the cbair and m a -short uddress he said that they had been prevented from meeting more regularly on account of the b id' weather, but thought that in future1 monthly meetings could bo managed. He referred to the way in which the Band ojE Hope is increasing in strength and also to the amount of work done by it; he spoke very strongly against licenses being granted in the King Country, The folio wing was the programme ■-. — Captain McNay (Salvationist) song "At Night" Lieutenant Simpson (Salvationist) song, "There'll be no Corner Houses Over There," Mr. T.Oakes, a temperance song (encored) a, parody on the "Absent Minded Beggar," Mr. Carter, recitation, üßarhado and Alfonso," Mr, H. Cakes, recitation, "A Bar Tender's Story (encored) " Courage Brothers," .

Kaipara Flats. -Asocial in aid of funds for^ouv Public Library was held in the school house oe. June 27th, and despite the unfavourable weather tliore was a £.ir attendance, and an exceedingly pleasant evening was spent Had favourable weather prevailed a number of Warkworth friends had promised to be present. This pleasure will be looked for ion a future occasion when the feces are more propitious. The room although small, was in capital order for the always favourite pastime of d&iiciiig. The music was kindly %upplied by Messrs Alfred Clements, Brott and Melville, These gentlemen usually constitute themselves the musicians on all social occasions, and their courtesy in this matter is acknowledged and much appreciated as a valuable contribution to the socialties of our district. The refre-s'hmentsjwliich were dispensed late in the eve:u* were supplied by the committee oi the Library; Before the company finally dispersed notice was given that ariotli■er social will be held in a month; 3 time for the same object, In view of the hostage which fortune has recently placed; in the househclfl circle of biir Editor, I beg to. oihv &m> [Dilutions. May the new editorial unit giva added inspiration end a.spi-.alien to the potential pen of the senior o£ [the stafl, (A Corresponded t-,}

MAR:3^NG.t tJJBUO TSfie Kahtafnagi Public Library met in i tie X.-.!;v.ary Jfcot Ifttesaey evening, .'Prasen* Jtfesaers Such (Giiairimin) Guest, Jiamilton, Mplvilie, Thomson, .A+W.wm H. D. Wariri. and-Etaynor, (Hoii. Secy.) Tiie minutes of la<-t meeting were read and confirmed. TliQ Socretajy • read,i& , letter.; fi-on; Mr. Philips, the Secretary of .the Magazine ,€>lub, ol* fering for sale a .number of "last year's r^agazines. Mr. Quest .saidHiat as the prices are reasonable, he wSrtld Iproposo that the offer be accepted. iHamiton seconded, and was unanimously carried.

Th© leommttoe discussed, the list of book?? draxn.up by a sub-copimittee el'pcttjja for that purpose. ,sfr. H. D. Warm said that the work of choosing' ia y.ery difficult, especially, sp, when there is little .tinaq to : devo'/e to it. He fought. that:-i|.:^:ftttld take several dayatO go catalogues.. : and thoroughly discuss the meAisyi eqcli bpok^and ev^n then it would be possible for a -wxufcH rejiirosentative body to give entire eaiisfaetioa to the members of a~ coiasamityr whose liter* ary tostos-idi££gi' so. vastly. ■ Mr. Guest 'said'that to give .the public every' chance-, those ibooks catered iu^the So^gestion Book by subscribers,' v sfioiild rec-'ive^first-'CQnaider-iatidnl -•• ..-"* v l,.

It: was tiieh decided'to ifisrt:uet the secretary tol^wto'^.;.^essrs. Mtitiy & ,Oo ordering £20 ( -%6^th of Jboolcs.

SrOMPH '^UOKLA^D KiILWA^ LEAGUE.

& me<ftmg*o:2 ijie North liueklanft Railway' League %as held yesterday. There w&re present the %llowmfe meinb'ers of the commits©:—The Hon. E.. Sfitchefeon, Jtad Afessrs Bodle, ,;jT; Burns, sCoates, % "^Tates, Peabocke, 'H. O.'Tewesleyj. also ?(Ces«rs Jl. Lawiy. J. Palmer, aud F^lds, s^,aE.s'. Ue&siby?. £ Kapier, F. "Massey, aad 'HousfoQ> -were unable to be presi erit, and-the llesiSES^Golbeek trere un^ able%o attend b-vrii%*to ;the illiiess of the^ 5 father, -Captain GDlbe^kJ^incc dead). It Was resolved to add t"hfe names & Messrs 3?a"tfcersofc to the-eeminittee. ' * The said'fkat^the meitb-' ers of the Gleneral. Assembly -were invited to be present to suggest wltat means should *be -adopted\t.o. ensine taore vigdroita jprosecutioii of the work of the North Aucklttßd raifrfay line, whether by a monster -petition or by any other method.

Mr. Lawiyy ft£.;Hi££. considered that Auckland had teen much neglected in.* the^past. A petition would' do much, good, especially if the Aucklamdin^ailbers stood-together. They pottld coerce the Grovernnieril into doiiig j'ufttice to the Noi'th.

Mr. Jackson Pdinei', K.H.IR. said' Utliat -the Nc&tjx • w*s\fulljß^nsitle<i it the railway, and if would pay better than any othee lino m "the"" eolonv. 'It weuld pay over, three per cent. The Korth has natural :advantjages over tfee rest of the colon}', and I the failwHy. would benefit the whole ! colony. The North had a semi-tropical •climate Ho approved ef th'e< petition, [and- of a deputation to la th houses or. ! Parliament.

Mr. Peacock was ©f opinion that all the Auckland members were in sympathy with the leagued efforts^ "but he would draw: attention to &c fact that the North Auckland line was not I authorised beyond Wellsford Road, 'a very short distance, He'wigfted the league to pledge the Aucklantt members to see this grfe.it- public work pushed o&. .;• . • '.

Mr-. Fowlds, -M.H.E., said he consi&ere&ihe North Auckland line more important, to Auckland than the North Island Main Trunk line to Wellington. Up to the present the Sduth had the larger representation in the House ot Assembly, but the result of the InseensuK would Alter all that. He apf proved of the petition suggested, and hoped the guesiion of authorisation would be embodied in it.

Mr. Mitcheson was pleasad to Hear what had fallen from the lips of the members of Parliament p-eseut. ll>. had never heard members of the House speak so strongly on the 'subject, especially Mr, Lawry, as to coercing Uir Government.

Mr, Coates, as knotting a great deal of the North, said it •would bo Letter not to go on With the"- railway at all than to construct it at the prejsent rate of progress. The Northern I Settlers wanted daily cooiniunicatioii with Auckland,

Tlie railway is at.present c-jfts meted up to ahout 48 miles from Auckland. It needs to he can tod to a pa>' able point, namely, to ICaipara (59 railes), Wellsford (69 miles), and to Maungaturoto (84 miles - from; Auckland), so that 3(? miles of railtvay con stvuetior isl needed to bring the North Auckland line to a payable potnt.

-■ OPENING OF PARLIAMENT. Parliament was formally opened by Commission yesterday, little interest taken in the proceedings. After jthe ceremony of swearing in had beeii jperfovinod, the speaker (Sir. GL M» O'Sorke) announced that he* had re* ceivea the resignation of Mr.. Le^vify Ohristclmrch City, aucl Mr. G. Hutchi^ son, Patea^ 'The Premier gave notice thai he wonlct roove for the issue pi writs on "Wednesday. The Croverndr's mossage-read, conta-iiiing. King's mes« r~age annduhcing dehili oi hja...mother. t T'l\e Preimer. moved CaDtain Hussell [ho?., a vesolutioiiol cofidolenof> as&ur-> HJht!> the King of thd loyal attachment lo? the House', to him. Themo-pon Irai |canicd unanimously, TheHov^e'then hvdjoi'vned.

ReSney County C©micii. A .General meeting- of the above, was held at the Council Chambers on June 29th. 1901,- ' Present: 'Nathaniel "Wilson Esq. (Chairman), Councillors Bucton, Snell. Thonisoii, Shannon, Brown and DudTho minUtjps of last meeting- read and confirmed,. Thi Hnancitil Committoe report jmssinj; nev,- accounts for £882 ss, lOd for he m^nthi- The clerk reported that he j.aA -^ ■~.< received a. cheque for £15 from tiio S.S. Co.. being- for licences fox the "Rob Eo^ " Kntl %(Eose Casey" The chairman remarked that it was very considerate of the McGrreg'br S.S; Company to give this County the benefit of the license money, as it was optional whether it-was paid, here or in. Auckland, On the motion of Or, In-own, sec. bg Cr. tiudcling", the treasurer's balance sheet for the-month was passed, j

CHAIRMAN'S EEPOET; The Valuation Question. G-entlcmeii, • t have tliotight .ii u-ise • to bring tlio question of Valuation under your notice, as it. seems to :nc to he of much, importance to every local body, on account of the ]fM.-£>-o amount of money which it costs and tLle other ineom eniences resulting; As the Assembly m to meet in a couple of flays, hhd the Counties' Association is also to meet then, and as the Local Authorities' Bill is to be the main feature of the Session. I think it is an opportune time to discuss and decide on the course ye-will adopt in-this matter. This being my.vein of. the question I shall lay before you ti brief history of the subject* , ;

; Previous to 1882. the local bodies had to make their own valuations, and this cost this county £50 in the three years;- and so r far as-1- am able to judge, the valuation.was tjuite'as well done then as no.w; and I believe it could be. done now by the council for that sumi (In fact I feel it could be done as well for d.ess, by the council sitting in committee for three or four days, if the lavy would permit it.) The pn porty ■• assessment. Act was. passed in 1879 for general Government purposes, and in. the amended Rating Actof ,1882, it. was provided that the Commissioner of lite Property Tax Dejmrtment should furnish the rolls to all the local.bodies at the. cost of transcription,' This.was a'great-advantage, to the country districts, because-.it relieved them of neatly all expense for| valuations; Then by section 10 of the same Act ,the: local bodies had - the power to make such alterations' as to them seemed wise, and these held good till the next valuation. Now, this is all changed, and though the work-has to be done largely by the clerks of the counties and boards. Yet. the alterat-ions-.have to go through the "Valuation Dejiartuient at. Wellington, and canhot be legally entered on bur roll till] authority comes from.the Commissioner. This often causes great delay in having alterations made, such, as where sales of property have taken, place, and where improvement's have been . made. In the first case causing annoyance to the individual. as depriving him or her of a vote or righti to be elected to a seat on a local board „- We enjoyed this freedom from ex-j pense, and the privilege of correction from 1882 to 1891 the time when the; Property Tax was ropealed and thej Land Tax imposed.- The local 'bodies were again left to make their own val-' nations, which, in 1.894 cost the county £61 lis. Od. as shown 13/ the accounts in three years. lii 1 ; 897 fin act-was passed by the Grovei-ninent called the Government Valuation of Lands Act. By this Act the Government undertook the duties of valuers, for the local bodies, but instead of. sVpplying the roll at the cost of tra-hscription, we have been charged a', sum. since 1897 valuation which amounts to £79 9s. 4d!. male tip as follows,' First installment of the original charge of one third as '■ previous £36 4s. 10iL Second installment of £\S 2s. od. was forgiven on remonstrance of Ibeil bodies. Third installment of £18 25.; od. reduced by the deductiou of cost of maps to £10 2s. Fourth demand for alterations since . the previous valuation? £32 14s. 6d. making a total, for the county of £79 9s. -Id. The accounts that the BoarcV have received (most of whicli are on the table), added to the above for the same period are not less than £30 os. Od'., being a total for both bodies of £109 lis, 4d.. If you refer to section 22' of the regulations under the Act, you will" find; that the department: hqis power to levyj for valuation a sum equal to Is. per: cent of all property, qv the capital val-, ue. As our valuation is about £300,000 we may be assessed at £150 for this purpose. It also appears from section 27 of these rogctlarum, thai the Boards have to pay for their rolls, the above sum of £109 'its. id. does not include that. , i The Government Valuation of Lands Act states tiiac the valuation cost shall bd borne in -three equal parts by the Valuation: Department, the Land "and Income Tax Department and by the local bodies (you will recollect) we had some correspondence with +he ..Valuation Department, sind that when • the xfon. Mr, Duncan, Minister of Lands, was here.we brought the correspondence under liis notice. He pi jmised to have the matter looked into •' by the Department, and that he has faithfully attended to, but the explan--1 ation , of, fho Department does not ' ieem ib\ clear ap why we should be ' oharged with the Loans to- Sot tiers jor father,' ii docs not make it clear that we oirS' not charged for the Loan's to * Settlers Valuations, Be this as it may, I feel that the Government wishes to

aid tho* local "bodies, a* iv svtdsncod; by <iie Local Authoi-iclorr Ij,,i, As the Government lias fco iue&o .tiaoValuat-' ation qf the colony for ganeyal purposes it would, confer a groat benoilj ( oil the local bodies; it we "were placed ' in the same position we wore, in from 1882 to 1891 viz,,, that the Government supplies the rolls op these conditions, cost #f transcription only, be.- : ing charged, and the rostoring of the provisions contained insiQ 10th. section of tho Bating Act 18*62. Nathaniel Wilson. Chairman, Cry Shannon thought it-would be useless this council talking any" action, in tho matter ■uhjoais concorfced nation wero taken -with the othor local bodies. The - Conference of County Councils being- held at Wellington on July 17th would "be the proper channel through which to move hi the matter) Cr. Thomson said it was his opinion that it would "be much. better 'ii the local bodies were to appoint their own valuersj and still better to be clear of the Government. .. The chairmdn remarked that he considered (lio real facts of th'?, matter were, thai; this valuation ■ affair,, was being1 -worked in the interest of the Loan to Settlers Department which he believed were making money by if that it may show a profitable btisinesL The Chairman proposed Ci\ Dudding seconded, that the-Government be asked to return to the provisions contained in the 4tli, to 10th. clause both inclusive, of the Bating Act 1882, as a very much needed concession.to th.c revenues of the local bocni-s. Carried. Cr,' Budding proposed,. Cr, Brewn seconded,, That a circukr letter be drafted expressing the vie~s o$ this Council, re, present system, of valuation, as per the. chairman's Report, and.forwarded to the different local bodies so that concerted action may be ' taken- also that copies be forwarded to ■ the House of Representatives, the Government and .Counties' Conference, ■ and that a cpinmittee.be appointed to supervise the drafting, consisting of f Chairman, Cr. Shannon and the mover. Can'ied,,. . '' ' , doBIiSSPOJTDE^CE. ' ■ \ Legal opinion from the Council's solicitors, re Mr. Tr^adw^ll's slaim for damages sustained' through the contractors leaving a heap of met-al-on the road. The ojriuion expressed that the Council Avas not liable, and deduced several reasons, one of which was, that the conditions of the contract being,'-the Council employed men or contractors.;-to: spiiead metal, not leave it in heaps on the road. •■' - • ; . The Commissioner of Crown Lands, replying fo wishes of Hie council to to have all Reserves within the County bealt with at one time, wrote re-, guesting the, Council to give the day, tour and place where -the Council will meet as a Domain Board, so that section 34 maybe clisptiosect-of. As-re-' »ards any Eeserves the oouncil wish--3s vested in them, itli^ey must be'apiilisd for separately, as important matters such as t this . must not be 'lumped' but eacli dealt ,-with on- its nierits. Tlio chairman said that the Council should "deal with these Reserves as a whole if it is to administer its affairs as a Council,- or hand them over to the Koad Boards Jf dealt-"frith, separately. Ec Application of road grants. Government wrote asking for a description of works proposed and for particulars as to Avhere. and liomt it was proposed to spend the money. New Zealand; Insurance Compairy, offering to insure all ths Council's employees and protect tho Council at the rate of 20s. per cent dn wages paid. It- was resolved that the Council insuie itself against accidents to employees with the New Zealand Accident Insurance Company on the1 terms submitted, coritractore.to contribute in proportion to their wages-sheet. The Council approved of -the -compensation j«Tfttiged between Councillor Thomson and Mr, James Wetherspoon, the compensation to come out of the Riding fund. •.'■(•' Letter from Westland County Coun-j cil, re Local Authorities 33111. Reply, Have nothing: to add previous resolution. _ Mr, R. Monk O.E. re Local Bodies Conference to be held in Wellington. Cr. iiucton proposed, the Chair-! man seconded, "That Mr. Monk 1;» rc-j quested to act t\ for the Rodno;/ County. Carried, Mr Cruiskehi.nk waited upon tho. Council re providing a plan of Matakana wharf. Decided to send ttw? 'drawing back iov tracing1. On tJLe proposition of the Chairman seconded by Mi. Bucton, it vvfrd'dc-cid-to purcJiase'a large in up of the county (submitted) for li'J 2 ] os. od, conditional upon its being1 brought up to to date; 1001. Next meeting- of the Council to be left to the Chfiinnan-, or held near full moon ill September.