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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Monday, October 30. The Council met at 11 a.m., aud, pro* ceeded at once to the consideration of the orders of the day, that being the only business on the Order Paper. ' ! ' • : ’ BILLS PASSED. The following Bills were passed through all their stages Otago and Wellington Tolls Bill, Wellington Corporate Lands Bill, Sartoria Downes and other claims Bill, (clause 4 of the latter being erased), Douglas Special Settle* ments Bill, and the Auckland Beach Road Grants Bill. THE PUBLIC REVENUES BILL. ~ The Hon. Dr. POLLEN briefly moved .the second reading of the.aboye BilL . After some lengthened, remarks from the Hon. Mr. Waterhouse, who gave members warning of trouble to come, the Bill was read a second time,-afterwards committed, read a third time, and passed. ' IMMIGRATION AND PUBLIC WORKS APPROPBIA* ! - - TION BILL, ■The Hon. Df. POLLEN moved the' second reading of the above Bill, which was carried. .It was afterwards committed, and read a third, time. -•■■■■: ■ - ■ : " f > '■ APPROPRIATION BILL. The above Bill passed its second reading, was committed, read a third time, and passed. " COUNTIES BILL. The Hon. Mr., HALL brought up the report of the conference of managers on the Counties Bill, which was agreed to. > WASTE LANDS ADMINISTRATION BILL. The above Bill was further considered in committee, and several alterations made. A new clause was introduced, to the effect that the Government be empowered to sell by private contract to Mr. Brdomball 100,000 acres of land for persons to be introduced into this colony, provided always that the price o£ such land did not exceed the price of waste lands in the district' where such lands might be situated. The following telegram was read by . the Hon. Dr. ' Pollen from Sir Julius Vogel, in reference to Mr., Broomhall's communication regarding-settlement—“Auck* .land, October 23, 1876. —Have met Mr. Broomhall,- and had long conversation with him. He represents capitalists who, for a special settlement,- are willing to invest half a million of money in land and paying expenses : of immigrants to New Zealand. They intend ' to pay in cash. Although organised by total , abstainers, they do; not propose to make it exclusive to abstainers. Mr. - Broomhall is empowered to: finally close, but would not do so until arrival of Mr. Fox.' On passing through California-he- made conditional bargains to purchase 100,000 acres- at £3, and 100,000 at £2.105, per acre, both to be optional to him till. 30th June next. He will close with one or both of those if he does not arrange with New Zealand. Ho is. willing to covenant to settle immigrants on the land he buys under conditions of a stringent nature. He has brought me letters, and asks my advice. E have advised him as follows •—To let me send you them to lay before Assembly if you like, and to ask you to telegraph him shall he come on to Wellington at once, or would you prefer his postponing doing so. : If he came he would ask you first, are -you willing to entertainthe matter ; second, to give him- a list of localities where hemay'look; for' land ; price, and conditions to be subject to subsequent .agreement. I doubt your being able to deal without the sanction of.-the. House, and you.will have to close before the Housemeets again, as Californian option, only: open till June I send you this so that you may,-if you think fit, ask from the Assembly - a general- sanction to make an agreement.- There Js no doubt of Mr. Broomhall being willing to arrange. He representsl very' wealthy ’ and influential people. I leave early to day. You must telegraph; him direct at Club. If you wish him dewnv r at once, telegraph to-day, as. steamer leaves to-morrow for Wellingson.—J. Vogel. —The Hon. Major Atkinson, Wellington.” Dr. Pollen said; Mr. Broomhall had not yet arrived, and could not- very well do so before the Assembly closed. He then read the following telegram from Major Atkinson to Mr. Broomhall, in relation to the foregoing : Have received telegram from Sir Julius Vogel, conveying substance of conversation with you. I shall be glad to see you, and think a personal interview, before the House rises desir* , able. Can you come down at once I—H. Atkinson.— J. Broomhall, Esq., Club, Auck* land." The Council then adjourned till half-past seven. ■ ■ - . -.- On resuming, the Waste Lands Administration Act was read a third time,' and passed. MESSAGES FROM LOWER HOUSE. Messages from 1 the::Hoase, of -. Representatives were received,- to the effect that that House had agreed to the report of the conference of .managers on the .Municipal .Corporations Bill, the Rating Bill, and the Counties Bid. - . . Also: messages that the House agreed in amendments made by.the Legislative Council in the Wellington Consolidation Loans Bill and W e ifr n Stbu Corporate Lands Bill. A message was received from the House of Representatives, covering reasons for the 1 House of - Representatives disagreeing: to the amendments; made, by the Legislative Council in the Waste Lands Administration Bill. The Hon.. Mr. HALL moved, —That the Council doth insist upon its amendments in the said Bill, and also that the Hon, Mr, Wateci
house, .the Hori.' Mr. Hart, and the Hon. Mr.. Hall be appointed a committee to draw up reasons for so insisting. Both these motions were agreed to. >On the motion of the Hon. Mr, Hall, a new clause inserted by the House of Representatives in the Municipal'Corporations Bill; was agreed to by the Council, with the addition of a proviso, protecting certain persons from actions with‘Which they had been threatened. .The Council then adjourned for half-an-hduf.' Oh the Council resuming, the Horn, Mr. Hall moved that a message be sent to the House of Representatives to the effect that the Council doth insist upon, its;amendments in the Waste Lands Administration Bill, and l that the reasons' 1 for so insisting’could he best explained at a'conference^'should the House desire that a conference should be appointed. ‘.The Hon. the Speaker left the chair for fifteen mirintes. On the Council reassembling, a' message, was; received...from-the. House of Representatives intimating that they desired a free conference on the'"subject of the Bill, and on the motion of the Hon. Alri Hall the Hoh., , Mr-G-E- Johnson," the Hon.eMr.’Hart, and the Hon. Mr. Hall were appointed as managers for the Council at the said conference,,which will take place at 10.30 this day. .■ The Council adjourned at 11.35 until 11,30 i 'this day., ’
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ' Monday, October 30. - The Speaker took* the chair at the usual hour, Sir GEORGE .GREY asked the Government, without notice, whether they would, promise to take care that no laind reserved for the natives in the .Tauranga district should be allowed to be sold during the recess ? - ■ The Hon. Major ATKINSON said he would .have the matter, enquired into. If it ehoa]d‘'turh out that'-the’ reserves, .should not be sold,* they should not be disposed of. 1 .... KAIMAI. , ■ ....; Mr. SHEEHAN read the following, telegrams from the Chairman of the Kaimai Pros-pecting-Committee : ‘ ■*• Tauranga, October 23, 1870. Hauhan obstructionists have Invited committee to meet<them at Molntoa Island, to quietly confer re. upecting the difficulties in relation to opening Kaimai and surrounding country far gold prospecting. ■ Com-, mlttee decline to attend unless authorities decline {desire! they should accept Invitation. “ Were We to meet natives .In question, it might be urged that the’ committee were adopting a uourse which, might be construed ..into what would be called one ol obatruotion, and acting independently of the Government," a qoorse which the public and the com-; mittee would much deprecate. We are, desirpus. tq give Government every opportunity ito act, if they will only convince the public that they really mean business. We have Informed Hon. Mr. Whitaker, ■ v E. EcnncuMßS. - John Bheehari/ 'Esq., Government Buildings, 1 - 'Wellington. - Tauranga, October 28, 1876. - Committee and Captain Morris had satisfactory meeting last night re Kaimai.. That gentleman expressed himself perfectly satisfied.with course adopted by committee, and that they had in no way obstructed the aclion’oi the_.Govemmeat,..a3 had-been reported. Commissioner Brabant left for Auckland last night,: so that the Government do not find (sic) it would appear, to use any haste in matter'd Kaimai. Please say what took, place in House yesterday respecting this locality, When do you leave Wellington ? ’■* " ' E. Edgecumbk. ; ; John Sheehan, Esq., M.H.K., Wellington. ' ’ , J ‘ Tauranga, October 27,1876. Letter, addressed to me personally, received from Brabant, utterly ignoring what ho terms “ so-called committee.’* ' Brabant states in letter that it' was found necessary to suspend his negotiations, and Inform roe that he has received permission to proceed with negotiations, and. to obtain opening. Tauranga lands for gold mining purposes whenever obstructions and agitation caused by me aud other ill-advised Europeans ceases. Compare this statement with my letter to him as wired you, and which you, table to-, night. .... , v :-■ i-* '■■■ . E. Edqecumbb.- ■ John Sheehan, Esq., M.H.E., Wellington. He asked the'Government nowwhetherthey/ had given theinstructions indicated in these telegrams? ..-d 1 .. :.W-r: ~r. The Hon. Major l ATKINSON read the following telegram;:— ' Government Buildings, October 14, 1576. i ! No. 314.—H0n. -Native Minister, desires, me .to, repeat to you the answers he has sent .to'Mr.' Edgcumbe re Kaimai. ; ‘ .. " Re yours.—The Government have already taken the Initiative, and' authorised Mr. Brabant to make the best arrangements he can with the natives. .Any demonstration oh-' the part; of the'committee is more likely to impede than promote'the Object In view.” . This should have been sent last night, hot too late, for offle©/ ‘ '* ’ ... , , -Henry T. Clabkje, N.S. Herbert W. Brabant, Esq., E-TST., Tarirahga.
The Hon. Major ATKINSON proceeded to »ay that Mr. Brabant had 'informed the Government that; he, had been, obstructed by„the committee, and had written them two letters,' which the local paper' I 'would not publish, being wedded to one side.’ ' There' .were two ■eta of natiyes, and the' .committee,were treating with one set,-whilst another laid claim also to the land. ; The Hph, iMr. Whitaker, on his way North, would shortly call at Taurainga, and investigate the matter.. - . . ' The amendments made by the Legislative Council in the Wellington Loans Consolidation 1 Bill'and the Patea Harbor Board Bill were agreed to. That in the Sartons .Downes and other Claims Bill was disallowed, on a-division, by 16 to 12 ; and the Hon. Major Atkinson,- Sir George. Grey,'and Messrs. Bearoe and ; Lar-; nach 'were appointed managers to" draw up reasons. ; The reasons were subsequently approved of, and the ' same gentlemen were appointed to : confer ,with members appointed by the Upper House ‘ i," After, an - adjournment, the Hon.- i Major Atkinson, said that .the managers,appointed to state reasons for striking out the last clause in the Sartoris Downes- Bil L-were unable to agree to any'reasons'to submit to’the tive ConnciL The managers numbered four, and were divided, two - being ■on ■ one side, and two on another. -In accordance -with the opinion'of the Speaker, he, under the circumstances, moved that fresh managers, namely. Major Atkinson, .and Messrs. Hunter and Fitzroy, should be appointed, Mr. SHEEHAN proposed l the names of Messrs. J. C., Brown, Wood, and Tole. . . Sir GEORGE GREY explained that a constitutional question was, in his opinion, at issue, namely the power of the Upper House to reject a money clause in a Bill. . The debate was adjourned. ■ the WASTE LAND 3 ADMINISTRATION Bill.' On a message being received from the. Upper House in reference .to this Bill, Major .AtkinBoM moved that the amendments made by the Legislative Council he agreed, to. He did so with great regret, as the- deferred payment clauses and others Of a most useful character had been struck ont. After a discussion, Major Atkinsonwithdrewhis,motion, and,substituted one disagreeing ; with the amendments made by the Council, and appointing himself and Messrs. Cprtia and Sheehan as managers to draw up reasons. V" . .adjournment j took ■ place/ 1 and ■on the House resuming the reasons ’were. reported,, and the managers were .appointed to confer managers front the Legislative Council., -After 1 conferring, the Legislative Council sent down a message helding to their amendments,, and on the motion of the; Hon. .Major Atkin- ■ •ON, : he himself and ' Messrs. 1 Curtis oud Sheehan were appointed members of -a .ffeej conference with members to., be-similarly ap--printed by the Legislative Council. ■ - MUNICIPAL COEPOHATION3 ACT AMENDMENT BILL, The House agreed to the new - clause- 386, bringing the Bill into operation on the Ist January, 1877. . . 1 A message was received from the Legisia-, tivp Council, stating that they had agreed upon a free conference, and had appointed the, hour of 10.30 for the same..- - "J *The 1 House then adjourned at 11.54 until noon to-day. :r~. ' '.'.'l
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