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Inangahua Times, Volume IV, Issue 64, 5 September 1877, Page 2

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O. [BY ELECTRIC. TELEG-RAPJr.] [PER PRES3 AtiSOCIATroX.] HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Wn uLiK gton, September 4. J^ir George Gre.y tboiiubt Edura'ion and Charil able Institutions should liavo been included iti one measure. The Bill was a wicked,, proposal to introduce religious dissentions and set class agninst class, and would mnke tlie poor pay for educaling the ricb. He objected to redure everything to dead level. He waR opposed to tbe conscience clause. as an injustice to a large section of the community. He regretted provisions for secondary education were totally neglected, and provision for regulating scholarships an 1 reserves were unjust. State education should be made absolutely free. No provision was made for orphans or destitute children, except for another monstrously unjust Bill. He protested against .hurrying through the Bill, which would place 100,000 people under a deep sense of wrong. Mr Sbeeban thought denominational schools were only possible hr towns. Me desired to sco the matter made entirely secular ins'fc n 1 of tb.3 miserable compromise. ■ ' , Mr Stout thought tlie conscience of those who belonged lo tbo Church Her* served consideration and urged that it was tbe duty of the State regarding ■secondary' as well as primary e-lu cation,, and thought the Government tins year should only have Brought in a Bill providing for inspection and funds for carrying on the existing' systems. The Bill must be made purely secular. Mr Fox urged our learning from Amercan experience, which he thought would be satisfactory. Everyonobenefitted by having amongst them educated and civilised persons, - and therefore nil should pay for education which was dono through the consolidated revenue, those whose children were educated contributed capitation. Bp believed the people generally desired Bible reading in the sohools. It would be monstrous to make it the only book especially excluded. These secular schools would -not 1 meet the. Catholic requirements. Mr Curtis' amendment was pvr'e denominaHonalisnii Some thought the Auckland system was nearly as perfect as possible. He had never heard, a complaint against, The religious clauses must be excised from the Bill to make it ft National measure. MrWoolcock strongly supported, but as it stood ho was,; willing to see the religious clauses struck out in deference to the sentimental views of others. Mr O'Horke supported Mr Curds' amendment as simlhi:* to the Canadian system, where it worked admirably. Lumsden, Fisher, Slirimske, and Wood supposed t' c religions chaise. Mr '."'aigeiit suj>poi'te<l Cii'tis' nroeu'l* monl. Mr Bo" en rep'ied re. ;k>W'P \;inz 'he tcinpcraie lone of (bo d sus-nou. Gove:tinicut, d/J not de h 1 ? io tlo mow ' inn

was necessary at present. Simply nuke Education Boards acceptable to the people, while avoiding the evils in the local representation, aud lie was willing to accept any better method. In doing this lie believed the funds provided by the Provincial Governments would be ample, as inspection, scholarships and normal schools would bo otherwise provided for. £100,000 for buildings he divided in proportion to the deficiency betwesn existing accommodation and the numbor of-childrnn requiring it iv each district. He did not think clause 85 would interfere with tlie- ; liberty of conscience of anyone, and objected to the bigotry of secularism, and did not think any practical difficulty would arise under the Bill. Mr Curtis' amendment was incompatible with the principle of the Bill, and could not be adopted. No capitation would be levied on children receiving sound education outside State school's. • .-,,,, The second rending was earned by 4,1 to - . „. >\ -j Replying to a question, Ministers said it was not intended to introduce any ..Bill or forbid lotteries, art unions or baffles, which were already illegal under English law.