Can you?—"Yes; I could."

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Can you?—" Yes; I could."

Very well; that's all I want. • Mr. Wilford: Were the Junior Cadets in a chaotic state? —"The head of the Department seamed to be a bit mixed." The chairman: What was tho trouble P —"He had had a passago of arms with tho general lofficer commanding. I don't know what it was about." _ Was there no officer in the Dominion \Vlio could havo takon his place?—" With all the Imperial officers wo have-in I\ew Zealand there should have been dozens. Mr. Herdman: Mr. Just has mentioned a testimonial. Ho said it had been signed by all the instructors but Johnston. Tho witness: I did not say all. It was Johnston who hung it up. I gave it to him and said t'hat there was someone in the Department who disloyal and was trying to bo The document stated that Mr. Garlick supervised tho work' of the Department, and looked after tho interests of the staff, _ Mr. Hcrdman: It might got out that Garlick himself had tried to get up tins testimonial. The witness: I can assure you that he knew nothing about it.

The Question of Salary. Andrew Duncan Thomson, one of thePublic Service Commissioners, said that when the Commissioners were considering the Education Department they had inquired into Garlick's qualifications, and chiefly into the question of his salary. Personally lio knew nothing of Garlick's qualifications. The Commissioners had come to the conclusion that £600 was a fair salary for the position. There was a great deal of organising work to bo done. The salary had at first struck them as high as compared with that of some of the other officers of the Department. That was why they had inquired into his qualifications. The chairman: You consider the position requires a great deal of organising ability? . , Tlio witness: r\o doubt. The chairman: Have you any knowledge of physical drill yourself?—' No." Genoral Codley's Opinion. To Mr. Herdman: Tlio Commissioners had consulted General Godley with regard to Garlick. He read a long shorthand report of tlio Commissioners' interview with General Godley. They told him that Dr. Valintine had said that a military man could havo been obtained at a smaller salary, and had asked him whether he thought tlio salary of £600 was too high, considering that the head of the Department received only £850. General Godley said that the head man at tlio Aldershot School of Physical Training was a full colonel, arid received about £600 a year, which meant more than the same sum here. There was a very great responsibility on the shoulders of the director. Ho was not prepared to give an opinion oil tho director's salary as compared with that of other officers of tile Department, but said that it was not too much to pay to get such important work done properly. It was a most important tiling for the Dominion that the work should be done well. They really could not give too much, provided that they got tho right man. Ho looked on tho appointment as being on the same plane as that of tlio railway manager. The work would bo an enormous help to himself as head of the force?, and was of the greatest importance in the whole Dominion. The holder of tho position would require to have great organising capacity, and must be a man to whoso directions the greatest attention would bo paid. Ho thoueht that Garlick was a man well qualified for tho position. Ho thought also that tho position should be placed in the professional division. Physical training was becoming a mpst important profession. Tho Director of Physical Education had greater opportunities for good at present than any other man 111 tho Dominion. After hearing what General Godley had to say, tho witness continued, the Commissioners had decided to assess the salary of tlio position at £600, and to do everything in their power to assist the director in his work. _ salary had been put in the classification list at £600. To Mr. Newman: They had at first thought that the salary was too hi en. but after hearing General Godley they concluded that it was not. To Mr. Sidey: The Commissioners had power to fix tho salary at any sum . thoy. likod. They, did not know of a

contract between Garlick and the Minister that tho salary should bo £600 a year. If thoy had decided to reduce tho salary they might havo inquired if such a contract existed. To Mr. Statham: Thoy did not know that the salary had been passed on the Estimates by tho House last year. Sir. Wilford: That was not for Garlick. Sir. Statham: It was for tho Director of Physical Education. To Mr. Wilford: Thoy had not compared tho salary with that of any olKcer except tho Assistant-Inspector-General of Schools, who received tho same sum. That was why they brought up tho question before Genera) Godley. Mr. 'Wilford: And he convinced you!" —"Yes." _ Ho has a convincing way?—" Yes. Tho witness further stated that Dr. Valiutino, Chief Health Officer, liad thought tho salary too high. He had tho idea that someone could bo got from the military schools at Homo for about £400. Tho Commissioners had appointed two instructors. ' Neither of these had been recommended by Garlick. More Medical Evidence. Dr. William Kington Fyft'e said tliat Garlick had .done work lor him both at tilts Hospital and privately. He had often sent him ■ children to be taught breathing, and to havo tlieir cheats developed. Garlick knew his work thoroughly, and was well up in the exercises necessary for this class of work. He had. also treated coses of affected ! joints, and had had excellent results. Tine witness had always, found him thoroughly honest and straight to deal with. Ho nevci-, as many masseurs did, told the patients that ho know moro than tho doctors. His knowledge, of breathing exorcises was certainly large and expansive. To. Mr. 'Hordman: Ho had known Garlick for four or fivo years. He thought he was specially fitted to tako chargo of a physical culture scheme for children. In the matter of adenoids, which were extremely common, Garlick was especially well qualified. Ho know of one case in which his treatment of a child had staved off an operation. Garlick had a. very excellent knowledge of anatomy and physiology. • To Mr. Newman: He did not think it necessary for a medical man to bo appointed to tho position of director. The position was one of the very greatest importance ;to the country. Ho had been extremely well satisfied with Garlick's work; in fact, lio would not send patients to anyone else. To Mr. Statham: Ho had absolute confidence in Garlick. Ho did not think the Department could p&ssibly have picked a better roan.n He was thoroughly well qualified. ' This concluded tho evidence. The Committee has to report to tho House .by September 11.