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There are some still remaining in the box. I have taken out pieces and put them together on sheet J. Part of Post of May 23, page 2, columns 1 and 2 ; and some fragments of Post of May 31, Friday, page 2; columns 7 and 8 being the pieces shown at foot of J. At the time J was handed to me I had had no communication with Crown Solicitor, so that a number had been gummed. Since then I have used thread for piecing them together. The pieces forming J are very brittle; they break easily. K I received from Detective Benjamin on 7th. From Wilson L on 17th June, as received from Green. I made a chart showing where these same exhibits would come in the Evening Post of 23rd May. I have this chart. This is it. It is what was photo-litho-graphed. The large piece (6) on the chart is left-hand side piece of F, handed to me as coming from bedroom. No. lis piece given me by Carroll in H, that is connected by "from " —the edgescorrespond, and the other side correspond. No. 2is also from Carroll. 1 fits oil to 2; 2 connects with 6; it goes through F. It goes through "south." 4is piece from Thomson Gl. 4 fits on 1 and 2, and 3, 1, and 2 fit on to 6, and 4 on to 1. As to J —those from Cahill—l have not charted out the whole of J. The lowest piece on left-hand corner of J. It fits on. 7, 8, 9 are all given to me by Campbell. Then, as to page 4 : This is a photograph of another portion of same paper of same day, 23rd May, report of proceedings of Petone Borough Council. 16 is section-piece on photograph P. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, brought by Carroll and shown in photograph H. 16 was given by Thomson. Piece given by Thomson brought from spot. I have not in any way altered the condition of the papers as they reached me. 164. Mr. Bunny.] I have not had any special experience in this class of work. lam the junior clerk in the department. There are five, including the Commissioner. On the 4th of June I received instructions that I should have to deal with the newspaper. Major Gudgeon gave me the instructions. I have been there seven years and three months in the office. I have always been a clerk. Once in Armed Constabulary. I was once in the shipping line. 165. When these persons came with the paper, did you give receipts? —No. 166. Did you take any note of ifheir arrival?—l marked on the envelope as I received it. This bundle is a bundle with my sketches. Thomson was the first to bring me an. exhibit—about four o'clock on Wednesday. This was on the sth. None from any one but from Thomson on the sth ; the next morning from Benjamin, Carroll, and Campbell. I was told that certain papers had been picked up on the ground, and in the house, and to see if they agreed. Nothing said as to what papers. Major Gudgeon spoke to me on the 4th. I had no indications given me as to what part of the papers I should find would fit. Thomson gave me portion 4. Gudgeon did not say Thomson had communicated with him. The last exhibit I received on the 18th June. I commenced examination on morning of the 6th. I opened the different envelopes, and put them on sheets of paper. I took out one at a time. I took all from Thomson, and put that on a sheet of paper by itself. Then another one. The first I started with I gummed them down. I took each out of its envelope, and put each on separate paper. I generally pinned them. I never had them all opened out together ; only two or three opened out together. I had a set of pigeonholes. I completed the examination about the 20th of last month. I remember you and the Crown Solicitor going together, and you looked at the papers, and amongst them the papers brought by Dr. Cahill. I said I had found all. I thought I could identify them. As to piece with Kaitangata on it, I did search to see if it belonged to paper of the 23rd May. I found that it belonged to paper of 31st. ■ I had seen this before. It did not seem same type as shipping-column. It was because I thought it did not belong to shipping-column I did not commence to search to what it would correspond. I think I would have found it out if you had not come. When you asked for the pieces got from the wound I showed you that they were gummed, and said then that they were pieces I could not make anything of. I probably had the boxes opened two at a time. I marked them as they came in. I made a list on the second day. Each was kept on a separate sheet of paper. I had nothing to identify the papers except the memos. on the parcels. I was very careful to put them back to the parcels I took them from. The first clue to the 23rd May was Friday night after the Wednesday I got them. I think I told them on the Bth. After I told Thomson on Bth. I received some exhibits on the 18th. I am certain I made no mistake as to the dates I received the exhibits. I received from Cahill on 6th at 2. I received Thomson on sth. It was not the same day I received from Cahill, but the preceding day. Gkeen recalled. 167. Mr. Bell.] A little boy gave me a piece of paper that had "Bowden" on it. The boy said he picked it up close to where I picked up the other piece. 168. Mr. Bunny'.] I showed it to several in Kaiwara, and gave it to Campbell. Cabkoll recalled. 169. Mr. Bell.] I made a search at prisoner's house on sth June, on afternoon after his arrest. I took a piece of paper from trousers of prisoner. I took the paper and put it in my pocket. The trousers are at station now. Trousers were hanging up in the bedroom. I gave it to Benjamin at Detective Office. He was present when it was found. 170. Mr. Bunny.] I am sure it was in trousers-pocket. %