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Are you of the iwi (tribe) ?—Yes. The Court told us that the ten would be trustees, but we found out that they did more than trustees should. Is there any other name outside Werokoukou and Patukoukou ? —Yes. Waikato is a greater name than Ngatihaua. Have you any other claim than conquest, if that is not sufficient ?—No. My claim by conquest is complete in itself Is your conquest by Ngatihaua ?—Yes ; that is my claim. What is your hapu in. Ngatihaua?—Ngatiwerewere —the most influential. Did Ngatikoura take part in the conquest?—This conquest was by Ngatihaua. Who were the leaders? —Te Waharoa, Pohepohe, and Te Hura. Did Waharoa give Ngatiapakura some land ?—Yes. Do you know Ngatihinepare?—Yes, by report. Examined by the Court: I understood Parakaia to appear in Court in 1868 for Ngatiraukawa and Ngatikauwhata. He said he did. I did not hear him apply for an adjournment of Puahoe. I remember the Court in 1866. I was present at it. Parakaia was not there. He only attended one Court; that was in 1868. I never heard of Parakaia objecting to Court because of absence of Ngatiraukawa and Ngatikauwhata. Hori Wirihana sworn: lam one of the grantees of Puahoe. lam of Ngatikahukura and Ngatiwerewere. I claimed through ancestry and conquest. Kauwhata was the ancestor through whom I claimed. This is portion of what was taken from Marutuahu. They left and we took possession; and I have heard of one conquest before that from Ngatiraukawa. Puahoe and adjoining blocks were portions of the district we conquered and hold until this time. Examined by Air. McDonald: Would you have admitted any other hapu than those connected with Kauwhata ? —No. Had Tapa and his friends been at the Court in 1868 would they have shared in the land ? —Yes ; I do not object to Tapa. Examined by the Court: Kauwhata, from Kapiti, would have been admitted because of our one ancestor, and notwithstanding their absence and our battles without their assistance to recover the land. They would have been recognized by us had they been here at the Court in 1868. By Major Mair: I was at Court in 1868. "We did not exactly know then how to carry out the law Some of our friends amongst the Hauhaus were shut out as well as Kauwhata from Kapiti. I got money on Puahoe. I sent none to Kapiti. According to Maori custom, we ought to have sent a share to our friends at Kapiti, but we did not do so. Hitiri te Paerata sworn: I am of Ngatitekohera, Ngatiwairangi, Ngatiwhaita, Ngatiparekawa, Ngatitamatahura, Ngatikapu, Ngatingarongo, and Ngatiparetekawa. Ngatitekohera is-the principal One. I know something of the wars in this country in my father's time. One of the Ngatirongo called Whatakaraka died. He was killed by Ngatimaru. Ngatirongo is a hapu of Ngatiraukawa. This was the occasion of Ngatiraukawa leaving for Kapiti. They were grieved on account of this man being killed. It was not from fear they went. The whole tribe went, and for this reason, the killing of AVhatakaraka. Ngatikauwhata went forth then for the same reason. Ngatikauwhata and Ngatiraukawa are one people. Ngatimaniapoto are also of Waikato, and came in the same canoe (Tainui) Ngatikauwhata and Ngatiraukawa were known as one people. Ngatiraukawa are from Kauwhata, and Ngatikauwhata have come from Raukawa —doubly they are one people. Examined by Mr. McDonald : For what reason are these people the same tribe ? —The tribes I have named are from Tainui. Ngatihaua is the same. Is that why you say they are one tribe because they came in the same canoe ? —One tribe : Tainui is the canoe. Canoe and tribe are synonymous terms. In later times were they divided ? —Lately they are divided into Waikato, Ngatiraukawa, and Ngatimaniapoto. AVhere did Ngatihaua come in ? —They are from Waikato. Was there only one migration ?—Yes, only one. Rauparaha had gone previously Was Rauparaha's a separate tribe ? —Rauparaha's was the Ngatitoa hapu of Raukawa. Did you ever hear of Whatanui ? —I have. He was a chief of Ngatiraukawa. AVas his the party you call the sole migration ? —Yes, this was the great migration after the death of Whatakaraka. Did you ever hear of Mokowhiti? —Y"es. I cannot say that Whatanui and Mokowhiti went together. Did you never hear that they went in separate parties ? — Do you know of what hapu Whatanui was ?—Yes, of Ngatikohera. AVhat hapu was Mokowhiti? —I do not know What hapu is Ngatikohera of? —Of Ngatiraukawa., By the Court: Whatanui's party went south via Taupo. They stayed at Taupo several months and planted food. They lived with my fathers at that time. Te Heuheu gave them protection lest they should be pursued. We are perfectly familiar with all these things, and I can vouch for what I say. Te Whatanui started from his pa Hangahanga when he left for the South. Hangahanga is between Otautahanga and Aratitaha in the Maungatautari District. Hangahanga was stormed by Waikato, but not taken. Ngatiraukawa went away quietly Hone te One sworn: I belong to Ngatiapakura and Ngatihikairo. Ngatihourua, Ngatimahanga, Ngatihaua, Waikato, Ngatiraukawa, and Ngatikauwhata are other hapus to which I am related. I do not know whether lam in the grant of Puahoe. I have a claim to it. I claim it through conquest. I took it from Ngatiraukawa and Ngatikauwhata. I gave evidence before the Court in 1808. Parakaia was there as an opponent of Ngatihaua to take Maungatautari. I was only in the Court for about five minutes, and arrived just as Parakaia was finishing his evidence. I replied to the claims of Parakaia. He was defeated through what I, said. 1 said it was through my strong arm that Puahoe and Maungatautari were taken. I (Ngatiapakura) was the enemy of Ngatiraukawa. Ngatihaua and all