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522. Mr. Rolleston.] Did the owners [that are down in the grant get all the money that was agreed to be paid to the tribe by Captain Morris ? —Tes ; those in the lease. 523. If they forgot this woman's claim, knowing she had it, ought they not to make good to her her share?—l do not know about that. 524. Supposing she now established a claim, should you have any interest in the claim?—l should. 525. How is that ? —Because I was not present at the investigation, for one thing. It was other people who brought the case before the Court. 526. Have you any promise from her for consideration from her if she establishes a claim ?—She would give me consideration if her claim was established. 527. The Chairman.] Does she say so ? —That is only my opinion. 528. Mr. Rolleston.] Have you any promise from her or her husband in the matter ?—No. 529. Hon. Mr. Fox.Jln case you do succeed in establishing a claim, do you mean to ask her or her husband for something ?—I will. 530. Tou expect to get it ? —I expect to get it, because I look upon her as my sister or cousin. 531. Mr. Carrington ] Tou having sold your claim, what right have you to expect to get anything further ? —I was not the real seller of the land. The people who had the lease sold the land. 532. But you admit you sold all your right and interest in it ? —I joined in with the others who had the lease. On that ground I was a party to the sale. 533. Then do you consider it just you should put in a further claim? —Tes, because I was not present at the investigation. It was at the meeting at Maungatapu that my name was put in. It was put iv by Mr. Clarke. I told him to put it in. 534. The Chairman.] How much money did you receive?—l do not know. I was drunk at the time. It was my sisters who took charge of the money. It was night when the money was paid. £5 was the exact sum I received in my hand. I bought a plough with it. 535. Mr. Clarke (through the Chairman).] AVho supplied me with the list of people entitled to the land ?—I did. 536. Te Korohiti's name was not included ?—Her name was not included. 537. At the subsequent meeting, when the final certificate was drawn out—that was at the Courthouse at Tauranga —who gave me the names ? —lt was every one gave his own name. 538. The Chairman.] In the fifth paragraph of the petition it is stated Mr. Clarke assisted Captain Morris to obtain the land. Do you know anything of any assistance given by Mr. Clarke to Captain Morris ? —No ; I knew nothing of that. 539. Tou state that Mrs. Douglas's name was omitted by accident, through forgetfulness ?—Tes, she was absent at the time, and we forgot her. 540. AVas there any other reason ? AVas not this the reason : that it was well known that Mrs. Douglas was opposed to the sale of the land, and that therefore her name was intentionally omitted ? — We did think, perhaps, she would not sell; but we really forgot her. 541. Did you know that she ever said previously to that that she would not sell ?—No, I did not know about that. It was a matter entirely for herself either to desire to sell, or to object to sell. 542. Hon. Mr. Nahe.] Tou say you remember the time wben this woman was going to see Mr. Clarke. Did you not think she was going there to prefer a claim for the land ?—I do not know. 543. Did you not hear afterwards they went to prefer a claim ?—Tes, I did hear it afterwards. 544. AVhat did she go to Hawke's Bay for ? —She went along with her husband, who went there to seek work. 545. Did she marry him with your consent ? Were you satisfied that your sister should marry a European ?—Tes ; what objection could there be to a European ? 546. AVhat is your custom with regard to women who marry Europeans ? Have they a right to assert any claims ? —Tes. 547. Hon. Sir George Grey.] Did you hear that Mr. and Mrs. Douglas had informed Mr. Clarke that they had a claim to the land ? —Tes, I have heard it. 548. Tou saw them going to Mr. Clarke?—l did not actually see them. I heard they were,but Mr. Douglas did not invite me to go with them. 549. Did Douglas tell you he was going ? —No. 550. Did your sister tell you ? —No, they went by themselves. Hamiora Tv was present when they reached Mr. Clarke's office. 551. Did Hamiora Tv tell you what passed there ? —lt was Mr. and Mrs. Douglas who told me they had been to see Mr. Clarke. 552. Did they tell you what they said to Mr. Clarke ?—Only what you are aware of. 553. What did they tell you ? —They said they had been to Mr. Clarke to prefer a claim to two blocks of land called Pukepoto and Ohauiti , and that Hamiora Tv was there. 554. AVas that all ?—Tes. 555. Had you any right to force Mrs. Douglas to sell the land when she was away?—lt was the act of outsiders that sold the land. It was none of those in the lease. AYe were annoyed at them taking all the money. 556. But had you any right to force her to sell the land without her consent? —AYe forgot her; we made a mistake. 557. Tou say the money was paid at Te Papa ? —Tes, in the evening. 558. And you were drunk? —Tes. 559. AVhere did you get the spirits on which to get drunk ?—lt was in our Maori places in hiding. 560. AVho gave you the spirits ? —lt was a little drop which my sister brought in a bottle. 501. Do you know where your sister got it ? —I do not know. I got it in hiding. I saw she had a bottle. 562. Were there any other Natives drunk?—l was the only one who was drunk. 563. AVould you have consented to sell your share of the land for £5 if you bad had a free choice ? —It was my share of the money which Te Tauaro, who divided the money, set apart for my hapu.