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191. Did you understand, when you saw me at Tauranga, that a Court had been held? —Mr. Clarke told me, when I saw him at his house, that the Court was over. 192. That there had been a Court ?—Mr. Clarke told me I was too late for the Court. 193. Did you know it was Major Mair who was Commissioner at that time ?—I did not. 194. Did you know that an inquiry—a Commissioner's Court—had been held to investigate the claims to these lands you refer to?—I did not know. I was not grown up then. 195. Do you remember a meeting that was held at Maungatapu in November, 1871 ?—I saw the people going to that meeting, and I asked them where they were gaing to, and they said they were going to ordinary business. 196. What people do you refer to ? —To Pomare, and a good many others. 197. Members of the Ngaiteahi Tribe ? —Tes. 198. Do you know what the object of that meeting was, or did you hear afterwards ?—Two days after the meeting had been held, I asked Peter, my brother, what the meeting had been about, fie said it was about writing names down ; I do not know whether for a Crown grant or a lease. 199. Tou state in your petition that I struck your name out —that I did not allow it to be put into the certificate. Is it true that I struck your name out of the list of claimants ?—Tes. 200. When did I. and on what occasion did I, strike out your name ? From whom did you hear that ?—lt was Peter who told me my name was left out. 201. Did any one give me your name to put in the Crown grant ?—My name was not given in to Mr. Clarke. 202. What are the names of your cousins or sisters that you mention ?— 203. Do you know a woman called Tirita ? —Tes. 204. Is she any relative of yours ?—No. 205. Do you know a woman by the name of Meriana ?—Tes. 206. Is she a relative of yours ?—No. 207. Do you know Marata?—Tes. 208. Is she a relative of yours ?—No. 209. Do you know Ranapia ? —Tes. 210. Is he a relative ? —No. 211. Are not all these members of the Ngaiteahi tribe ?—They are not Ngatiruahine. 212. Do you know ?—I do not. 213. Is she a Ng ?—No. 214. Tou know Pomare and Whakatau ?—I know these two. 215. Have you heard it was Pomare who gave me the names of the owners of Ohauiti Block No. 22.—Tes. 216. Have you heard that Pomare gave me your name amongst others ?—-He did not give it. 217. Do you know the hapus to wdiom this Ohauiti originally belonged ? —I do not. 218. Do you know a tribe named Ngaiteawhai ? —Yes. 219. Do you claim through that hapu ?—Ngaiteawhai is my ancestor. 220. Tou state in your petition that Mr. Clarke assisted Captain Morris in obtaining the said land. Is that correct ? —lt was Mr. Clarke who let Captain Morris have the land. 221. Mr. Clarke (through the Chairman).] AVhat do you mean by saying I let Captain Morris have the land ?—I heard so from the people. 222. In what way did Ido so. Did I write the deed, translate it, or negotiate it, or what?—l cannot say. 223. Or by not imposing the entail ?—I am not clear on the point; I cannot answer positively. 224. The Chairman.] Tou must have some idea in your own mind how Mr. Clarke let Captain Morris have it ? —I understood Mr. Clarke told Captain Morris he was to have the land. 225. Mr. Clarke (through the Chairman).] AVho did you hear that from ; I want to know the name of the individual ? —Pouma and Pita. 226. The Chairman.] These people told you Mr. Clarke had assisted Captain Morris to get the land ?—They told me what I said just now. 227. AVhen these people you have named said Mr. Clarke had assisted Captain Morris to get the land, what were the exact words they used, so far as you can remember ? —They said nothing but what I have already told you. 228. Mr. Clarke (through the Chairman).] AVhen did they tell you this ; on what occasion, in what year ? —I do not remember the date or the year. 229. The Chairman.] Will you repeat what you said a little while ago as to what they said ? — They said that Mr. Clarke was letting that European have the land. 230. Mr. Clarke (through the Chairman).] AVhen was this ? When did you and your husband leave Tauranga? —I do not remember the year when my husband and I left Tauranga. 231. Did you leave after the meeting at Maungatapu of which you have spoken?— Shortly after the meeting at Maungatapu. 232. Have you been back since ?—No. 233. Then had executed a lease or sold the land to Captain Morris at that time ?—They had leased it to Captain Morris, but they had not sold it. 234. Hon. Sir George Grey.] Was your father called Rangi shortly ? —Tes ; he was called Rangi frequently. 235. What were the names of his two children ?—Kohauai and Irimana. 236. AVhat was his full name ?—Rangi Tuataka Haihaiora. 237. Is Pita your brother?— Not my own brother. was his father, a younger brother of my father. 238. AVho was your father's brother?— 239. Is your claim greater than Pita's ?—lt is. lam from an elder branch. 240. Mr. Nahe.] When the fighting at Tauranga and AVaikato took place, what side did the tribe take ?—They were hiding. Some of them were Hauhaus.
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