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1960. Did you ever see them after the claims had received the signature of the attesting witness ? —To the best of my belief those witnessed at the time I did not see after I gave them to my father. I do not kuow who witnessed them. 1901. Mr. Lundon.] Do you know how many Natives voted for me at Kaikohe ? —The Natives did not make auy secret as to whom they voted for. The principal portion of them, between thirty and forty, voted for my father. Between"five and nine of the voters voted for the other candidate. The principal part of them were residents about Pakaraka, or connections of Air. John AVilliams. 1962. And do I understand you to imply that they voted for Air. John AVilliams ? —I was given to understand that they did ; I was led to believe that. 1963. Have you been looking over the electoral roll for 1577 ? —I have been looking over it. I only find one name of a voter who voted for my father —Timoti Poihipi. He is the only name of a Native on the roll of 1877. 1964. AVhat year was that in ?—IS76 or 1577. 1965. And none of those Natives who voted for me, with the exception of Timoti Poihipi, appears on the roll for that year? —I see but one name. Some of the surnames lam acquainted with; but three or four I am not acquainted with. 1960. The Commissioner.] Do you wish me to understand that the whole of the claimants, with one exception, were removed from the roll ?—Not the whole of the Natives. I only see the names of two Natives in that part of the district, and two in the North. 1967. Then I understand you to say that the remainder were objected to, and removed from the roll ?—Yes. Henare Eruiea sworn and examined. 1968. The Commissioner.] Did you sign an application last year to be placed on the electoral roll ? —I know nothing about it. 1969. AVould you know if you had signed it?—l did not sign any. 1970. Will you sign your name on that piece of paper ? —I do not know how to write. 1971. [Claim to vote produced.] Do you know enough of writing to have written that ? Is that your writing ? —No. 1972. Did you authorize any one to sign your name for you last year?— No. 1973. Have you any idea who could have written your name there ? —I do not know r. 1974. Mr. Lundon.] Your qualification is stated to be a household one at AVaihou ? —I know nothing about it. 1975. Have you a house at AVaihou ?—I have a house. 1976. AVhat sort of a house?—A weatherboard house. 1977. Have you not authorized your brother-in-law, Nakete, to have your name placed on the roll in respect of this qualification ? —I did not ask him. Mr. Yon Stiirmer : Before you swear Air. Lundon, might I ask you if you will allow me to rectify an error I made yesterday? On page 18 of my evidence I find it stated that I objected to the claim of Hohaia AVhata, and that ho had a raupo house. I may say that in making this statement I meant Te Whatu ; the surnames are alike. As to this man Hohaia Whata, his name was not suggested as an objection by me ; and he has a wooden house, I believe, of sufficient value. At the time of giving my evidence I made that mistake, which, I trust, you will allow me to rectify. Air. Lundon may have an opportunity of questioning me again, should you think it desirable. John Lundon sworn and examined. 1978. State your name and place of abode.—John Lundon; place of abode, Hokianga. 1979. Have you been long resident in this district ? —About three years, sir. 1980. Continuously ?—Yes, in Hokianga ; but I have been, in previous years, in the WhangaroaMongonui country. 1981. How did you first become politically connected with this district ? Perhaps I might ask you to make a consecutive statement; it would be better, perhaps, because your knowledge is very full of this matter, and it might save the time of the Court? —I prefer you to put questions, aud then to make a statement. I first became connected with a portion of the district (Alongonui), which had an independent representation of its own. 1982. In what way ? —lt sent a member to the General Assembly as well as to the Provincial Council. 1983. In what way did you become connected with it ?—I stood as a candidate for Mongonui against Air. Gillies. 1984. What was the result ?—Mr. Gillies, now Mr. Justice Gillies, beat me by four votes. 1985. What was your next connection wdth the district ?—ln getting Mr. Alaxwell returned. I got him to stand, and got him returned. 1986. What was the date of the contest with Mr. Gillies ?—Ten years ago. Air. Ball resigned to let Mr. Gillies in when he was elected Superintendent against Mr. AVilliamson. 1987. Your next connection was?—ln bringing out Air. AVilliam Maxwell and getting him returned. 19S8. AVhat part did you take in that ?—I got all my friends to vote for him, and used my influence to get him to stand. 1989. What was y rour next connection wdth the district ? —Aly next was to get Air. Carleton out of the district. 1990. He represented the district in the General Assembly ? —Yes, for seventeen years ; and it was thought impossible to put him out of it, on account of his great family connection. I left the Provincial Council, and came down with Mr. McLeod, to put Air. Carleton, if possible, out of the district. I felt this district was neglected, and I resolved to do what I could for it. I had a larger interest in it then than now.

Miss Lundon,

March 26,1879.

Henare Eruira,

March 26,1879,

Mr. J. Lundon,

March 26,1879,