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1393. Are you aware whether he was objected to ?—I believe ho was objected to. The information I gave Air. AVilliams in reference to him was that himself and his brothers (one or two of them) wero all claiming for the same piece of land—for some fifty-four acres, for which I think the father's name was registered as well. I believe I might have given Mr. AVilliams further information ; but I was not aware at the time that they had a separate title. 1394. Then if you supplied Air. AVilliams with tho information, you are under the impression that you were in error in what you supplied him with ?■—l believe I was in error. 1395. Do you know Ilemi Hare ?—He is one of the same family. They were all wishing to claim for the one piece of land, for which the father was already registered. 1396. You were in error in that case also ? —I believe I v. as. 1397. Are you acquainted with Tamati Hare ?—Yes ; he is on the same piece of land. 1398. Are you acquainted with Hori Hare, No. 260 on the roll?—He is not on the same piece of land. He has a qualification—a very good one. 1399. AVhat is the nature of his qualification, Air. yon Stiirmer?—As far as freehold is concerned, I did not go into the matter, because the house was sufficient—worth £200 or £300. 1400. Are you aware whether he was objected to ?—He was objected to. 1401. On information supplied by you ?—No. 1402. Are you acquainted with Raniera Wharerau ? —Yes. 1403. AVas he objected to on information supplied by you ? —No ; he was not. He has a good house ; also a Crown grant. 1404. Do you know Alohi AVikitahi, No. 1,032 on the roll?—I know him. 1405. AVas he objected to ? —I believe not by myself. 1406. AVas he objected to ? —I cannot say whether ho was or was not objected to without looking at the list. [List of objections produced.] He was objected to. 1407. Do I understand you distinctly that you did not supply the information on which he was objected to ? —AVhat was his qualification. 1408. Freehold and household—Te Totara, 110 acres ; AVhakatere, 11,828 acres ?—I should have objected in general terms to all those in Whakatere, as there are upwards of a hundred names on the roll as on the memorial of ownership. The judgment of the Native Lands Court was that the land should he the property of the Alahurihuri, and on the freehold qualification I certainly should have objected to him; but not on the household, because he has a house. 1409. Then he was objected to by Air. AVilliams, and you distinctly say that you did not supply the information upon which he was objected to ?—No. 1410. Do you know AVhero Peiru, No. 999 on the roll ? —Yes, I am acquainted with him. 1411. Was he objected to ? When I say objected to, I allude to the actual objections ?—I cannot say without referring to the list whether he was objected to or not. 1412. Did you supply the information on which he was objected to ? —lf he claimed for AVhakatere I should have objected to him. I cannot say that I objected to him. I may have done so. 1413. What is the nature of his house ?—lt is a raupo house. 1414. Of what character ? —An ordinary Alaori house. 1415. Do you know Hohaia Whata, No. 994 on the roll ?—Yes. 1416. AVas he objected to ? —Yes. 1417. On information supplied by you ?—I cannot say unless I know the qualification. 141 S. The qualification is Whakatere ?—He would be objected to most probably on information supplied by me. 1419. What sort of a house has he ? —A raupo house. 1420. Do you know Heremaia te Wake ?—Yes. 1421. Was he objected to? —Yes. 1422. On information supplied by you ?—No. 1423. Axe you acquainted with his qualification ? —I am. 1424. AVhat sort of a house has he?—A weatherboard house. 1425. Which you consider would be sufficient ?—Quite worth £5 a year. His freehold is simply an undivided share. 1426. Do you know Pipo te AVairakau Pakau ?—I cannot recollect that I know him. 1427. Was he objected to ?—I should have objected to him if he claimed for AVhakatere ou Air. Lawlor's decision. 1428. What about his household ? —He has not a weatherboard house, I believe. 1429. AVhat sort of a house has he?—An ordinary Alaori house, I presume. I know his house is not worth £5 a year, because I know every house in tho district which is worth £5, and his, I believe, is not one of them. 1430. Have you seen that house ? —I cannot say I have. I may have seen it many times. 1431. Do I understand you to say that if it was a house worth £5 a year you would have noticed it ? —I think so. lam constantly travelling through the settlement. Ido not say it is not worth more than £s—£s5 —£5 a year. 1432. Do you know Rameka Waikerepuru, No. 959 on the roll ? —Yes. 1433. AVas he objected to ? —I cannot say until I hear the qualification. 1434. Freehold aud household, Whakatere ; place of residence, Taheke, AVaima. Aro you acquainted with his household ? —I cannot say I am. 1435. I may tell you that I have had this list handed to me with a statement that the person who handed it to me is prepared to prove the household qualification. Do you know Tata te AVaikarahu, No. 95S on the roll ?—No. 1436. Do you know Peepe te Tuauru, No. 945 ou the roll ? —I know the name, I fancy. I have some recollection of the name, but cannot positively swear to it. 1437. AVas he objected to on information supplied by you? —If he was claiming with other Natives for the same piece of land, he certainly would be.

Mr.yon Stunner.

March 21,1879,