HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Waikato Times, Volume XXV, Issue 2058, 15 September 1885, Page 2

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

MOXDVY. The House met at 2 150. ;>.in. Hir.r. Yogel said he regie tteti to have to lnfoim tlie House eh tt ttieie was no chance of c.u lying out tlujTriscoM.nl Scivice with Auckland .11 the terminus for anything hko the terms which weie contemplated by the ipsnlution of the House in comiiiittee. lie wished to »aj f that the ( Jo veinnientweienegoti.Ltmg fur a sei vice equally with Sydney .is the teuninus, and liiniuntr between S\dnev, Auckland, Honolulu .uicl J'*ii-co, <>i foi a serv ice with Sydney as the tei minus, and lunning only as f.n as Honolulu, theie to connect with the ti\e steameis running fortnightly between Sail Fi.uicNco and Honolulu. The (internment \t etc now in coriespnndence on the subject with the ( internment of Kew South Wales, ,uid the negotiations wi>re still going on. He was not in ,i position to tell the House am thing definite, but the (internment would consider it nece.ss,uj to submit the mattei for the coiisidei.ition of the House hefuic mcuiring an\ lCspiMjsibility. .\h Stout moved that the amendments made by the Legislative Council m the Hospitals and Chantable Institutions Bill be agieed to. He said the amendments wcie onh formal. Agreed to. Mi Stout moved tint the House do not insist mi it-, .uni'iidments m the Ij md Tiaiisfi'i Bill, except to cl iiw- :MX Mi (J. untie objected to abandon the amendment to section I'll, winch made a. peisou who hid put Imd midei tlie act liable foi any nigligence tint might lte disuo\eied in his pipus .iftei his cuitihcate of title had hi en is-ued. Mi I low me Stew ai t aN > oh|octed, and moved an amendment ictoidingly. Mi Samuel supposed the amendment, and pointed out tint tlie committee had debated the question fully, and deliberately decided that a pei son who paid .issuiance money, and confoiiued 111 1 the l piiicincnts of the act, should not ha\e any fuither icspoiisibility unless lie li.id been guilty of fund. The amendment wan can led on the, \oiees. The clause lelating to negligence was .sti uck out. Mr Hamlin said lie desiied to make a peisoual i\plauation. He had been mfouii'd that about ten days ,igo Mi To Ao had Mated in the House that he (Mi Hu-nhn) had endeavouied to influence hi< vote on the late no-confidence division agiuist the (iot eminent. Ho dcsiied to si\ th.it neithei diieetlt or induectly had \vi s night to inHuriice a single sote eithoi foi or against the (internment. He hoped lie knew the position he occupied in the House too well to take such a com Me. He must therefoie cli ii icteiisc the statement by Ml Te Ao as absolutely without foundation. Mi Te Ao leiteratcd the statement he Ii id pieuoiisly made. He said, lefeuing t> th ■ lite division, that Mi Hamlin stated th it if the Maoris \oted in a block the} would net have a seat in th ■ Hou.su two years hence.. It was stnctly collect that Mr Hamlin had n t a*kod tlie natives to vote one way or the othei, but ho objected to stitements such as In- had made with ic-puct to the Maoiis. Mi W. F. Buckland als,, had said that if t!ie Maoiis voted in a block they would have tog.i outside the House. Mi II imliu said the statement vu'th ref< teiicr to himself was incoirect. What he did s.iv was that tlie native menibeis might hud tliev weie making a mist ike, but th it they bad a pcifctt light to vote as they p't ised. Th j Hoiisi went into committee on the Municipal Corporations Act Amendment Mill. In clause '*, definition of ton ti act, Mi A tVhitc moved that the clause be shuck out, and a el.iu»e .substituted pio vidi " that no proceedings shall brtiken undv i section <i.'{ under thu lull e\cept with the written consent «.f the Vttoinev (ieneial, and that all pen dties leeoteied *»Ii til, after the dodueti > i of expenses, be paid into the borough funds. Tlii' new clause was igiivd to. Mi Donald Held mo rd a further new cl.iiise, "That no coutiaet shall apply to pi luting and adveiti-mg ' The clause was lost on the voices. Mi Stout moved a in vs cl iii-e pro\ idinjr th.it a new buigess roll be piepired foi I'almeiston Noith. Agioed to. The bill was road a thud time and passed. The House went into committee on the Knfoicemcnt of .Judgment Hill, which was lepoited with \eibal amendments, read a thud time and passed. _ The House went into committee to consider the following resolutions : "(1) That in the opinion of this House the portion of Kew Cuinca annexed to the Empire should foi the present oe created a Ciown colony, with a view of ultimately being annexed to 'Queensland, or created a constitutional colony ; (2) That aid shwuld be given by the impei ial (jMveinment to the new possessions by placing at the disposal of the (*o\ eminent a wai vessel for his uso ; (3) That for a term ofthieo yiMi'4 from tho Ist day of .lime, lSSfi this colony will undertake to pay its shaie of t'l."»,000 a year proportionately to population on condition that the other colonies of Australasia join in the contubution on the s.imo tonns." Ho explained that the resolutions were brought in merely to givo effect to whad had been pievionsly agieed to by the House. The (internment had thought that to niako NewOumeaa Ciow n colony would bo the best course and that it would be best for the colony foi it to be annexed to (Queensland. Di. X'evvman considered it sheer waste of money to pay £27,000 towaids the management of a block of land 8000 miles away. He. wished to know whether tlie amendment could be i educed. Sn (!. (!iey s.iid he should move to omit the hist two lcsolutioiis. Mi Montgomery said no opinion had been expressed in the House last yeai that Kew (Juiue.i should bo a Ciown colony. Why then express such opinion now "' He should vote against the fust and second claiifU. Mr Stout said tho matter liad been sub mUted to all the colonies and cadi had expressed an opinion, and tho (internment had given .m opinion, but stated tint the matter had not been submitted to J'.uliament. If this l'.uliamcnt declined to give an opinion it would place them m a wiong position in the world. After Home discussion, in which Sir G. (irey, Messrs Hur^t, Montgomery and Ban on took part, Mr, Stuut said, he hoped bojno 6ug_gentjon

would bo nude and that the Hmhc would ' come to tomo decision on the in ittei. Colonel Tumble thought the tl.ud lcsolution the most objectionable of all. Ho eonsideied tlie resolutions were bi ought down too late in the ses-iou to be dealt vv ith. Mijoi Atkinson agreed to the fiist lesolufion, but lie did not altogether like the thud one. He thought it was .ilisiud to contend th.it a colony like New Z -aland could not attoid tin 1 contuhiitions asked foi mi nulli .tn iiiipiutaiit m ittei . He dis.ippioved of the piopos il to hunt thp obligition of the colony . Su (I. (Irey contended tint tli"y should wait foi .1 lepoitonthe whole subject b■foie expiossmg .my opinion. He iuo\ed .in amendment to the first lesolution, ''Tli it no decision should be come to, a-, to the foi in of ( !o\ eminent to be given to Xevvdumea 01 to tin tutuie disposition of th.it colony' until .1 lepurt has been le cened fiom \I ijoi (icneial Seratchley aft-r peiMiii.tl iMiqiin y into it. The deb ite vv.t- int"iiuptud by the "> 30 adjournment. The House resumed at 7.30 p.in Sir U Croy lesiim >d the d.-bito on the Kew (J11111..1 i»s,.l,,ti.>n-. He ui/.-d tint it would not bt- wi^e to act incautiously in tlie lil.ittci. Ml llnll. stoil hopjd tin C.IUMIIIHI'IIL would accept the .1111 Midmeut of the mem bci foi Auckl.uid City K.ist. Hec intended theie was no necessity at .ill foi the tion The amendment was then put .md earned on a div 1-1011 by 40 t'> 2"> Col. Tumble asked whether the Uoveinment would accept the decision jn^t jjmn foi all their lesulutiotis. He would *n% Rest that the House should place nothing on recoul, but leave the whole niittei o\ei till next session. Mr r.illance said the (4<>\ eminent would aocebt the decision of the House, as he con sideied the ain?udment mst passed traverse 1 the whole of the resolutions. The amendment was then put and lost on the voices Mr Seddon lnaed that tho chairman leivethe chair, which was cairied on the voices. On tlie motion tint the House go nito Committee to consider the giantuij,' ot .1 subsidy foi the A'lstiahan cible, ('apt Suttcr moved that the House fro into Committee th it day si\ months. Sll .!. Vo{»el explained the position. Tin 1 amendiiK'nt w,is lost bj T 12 to .?0. The Hdiiio went into comniittoe on the U'sollltlon. Su .T. Vogcl moved "Tint the (io\eminent bj authoused to unduit.iki and con t nine a cable service for ten yens, piovuHl the chaige for piess mo-sages shall not exceed M per woid, and foi ordinal y messages, (id per woid." Mi Huist moved an amendment to make the tun" hveyp.irs. Sn J. Vogel sugge- ted seven yeais as a coinpiomise. M^r ]''ish(>r moved that the teim be limited to three ye.ir<. " Ten" was struclc out on the voic,*, and " hve "' substituted. Mi Hm-t moved tli.it tlu subsidy -.h«>uld not exceed t")000. Sir J. Vo o 'el said tlie House mi^ht h.ne the assurance of (}ov 0111 -lent that the sub sidy should not exceed !T>o3o. Mi Hurst slid after tlie assurance given bv the Tie.isurer he .should withdiaw his amendment. Mr Union nnvel that tha anionut be reduced to t#2,."i00.t # 2,."i00. After sonu discussion, the committee divided on the question that 4T)000 be m seiti'd, winch was negatived on .1 division by 41 to 32. Mi Dillons amendment fora induction to tl2~>oo vv.ii then put and lost by (( to 27. Mi >[ontgoinery asked what the subsidy would amount tn. Sll .1. Vo rt f ol s.nil the subsidy would not undoi any (jiciim-tanct > exce-d fiOOO. The lesolutioii as amended w.istlien ]iut md c 11 in d h\ 41 to 2'i ALi Uichtidsuu moved tin- second loiding of the W nine 1 l'l tills X ulv\ ly It iting Hill. Tin 1 motion foi the v_(.ond leuling was agn-ed to. The House then went into Committee of Supply foi fmthei co.i-.idei.iti m <>f the Public Woiks 10-tiniites Hui veysof new lines of i.iilvv.iy £3,000. Agieed t.. Tublie \Volks Depaitnient €Jt»,731. Caned. Roads, bmJsfLs and wh.uves, Xoitli of Auckland, ei!»,224. Mi Kiclifiidson explained in leply to a (juestion that this vote could be leduced by .t'lo,ooo without iui[iaring its usefulness. Capt. Sutter moved that the vote be leduced by £30,000. Mr l'eacocke moved a reduction of £1 0,000. Mr Uolleshm suggested that Capt. Sutter sshonld withdraw his .iiucmlment and tint the Comir.ittee .should take the Ministers' lecommeiidation. Capt. Suttei withdievv the amendment and subsequently moved a leductioii of £1"),000, which vv.is can led on the voices. IL-ft sitting. I