HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Waikato Times, Volume XXV, Issue 2057, 12 September 1885, Page 2

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Fill DAY. Th KHoiHcmet.it 2 30. Mr Biycc called attention to what ho coimdi'ied was a hi each of piiulfge-- of the tho House. He explained that lu> had boon summoned befoie a committee of the Legislative Council in older to give ewdence on the petition of Taiaioa. Finding, however, that the evidence dosued to be given i elated to tin 1 power of tho C'town over a s-utr. of tIOOU, wliii h w.is lefeued to in a speech midiMn the Houmj of Rt>piosentatni>s by Colonel Tumble, he had with all inspect to the Committee, a>ked to be allowed to withdiaw, as ho could not gi\e uMdeuce befoie it. He now dcMrud to lea\o tho nnttei in the hatuU of tho Spe.ikei. The Spcakei -aid the lion, member had duiu) ln-> dutj m bunging the m.ittei befoie tin* House. M^embeis were not to be quo* tinned anywhere by am body •'<■-, to what was said in the Home. It si umed to bun that the matter was a scnou-. bleach of pinilege, and it was geneialh tho duty of tho loadei of the House to pioposo a motion on the subject. Mr Stout agmed that it was a breach of Piimlpjjp, ami then mo\od a lesolutiott to tho effect that the attention of the Council bo called to the improper conduct of the committee, and that loa\c given to Mi Hi yet' to attend before the committee be revoked. Sevei.vl members spoke on the motion, winch was agioed to on the voice-,. Mi- Daigaville gave notice to u-nlc the (tov eminent whothei they would tike steps to lcmove the electiic hght> fioin tho House of Kcpresentatnc>, .is it had proved so injmious to theeye>of lion meiubeix. Mi Stout moved that tho House at its lining adjourn till Monday at 2.30 p.m. for ( iovcrnmcnl business only. Agieed to Replying to Mr Samuel, (1) whether the (toveinmcnt have taken any btops to ascertain the be->t nmta for a bianch railway or road fioin a point on the New PlymouthHaw ci a line of railway to a point of the Not th Inland Main Titink Line, in order to connect Taianaki with Auckland; (2) whether it is the intention of Lhu Government to close tho i.ulvvay vvoikshop-. at [ Seutiy Hill, near New Plymouth; (3) whether the Government will nistihite I'liquincs .is to tin* woikiiig of the Now Pljinouth-Foxton lailway with :v view to linpiove the -amo. Mr Kichaidson -aid the question Js to laying a r >,id fioin Now Plymouth to tin; main tiunk lino had not b en bioiight to tho notice of tlio Government. It was not intended to clu-t tlie woik-h"|,-. A- to the thud question, in-tiuetMn-. hid Ueou given to nnkp fmthei enquun's. Re[iljiig to Mi Sainue 1 , wlnthei tho Government will make i>ii>vis|on f>'i ]iay incut to the New I'lymouth Haibmu Bo.ml the value of laud t ikcn fioin the boaul foi lailway |)iupose-, Mi Kichaidson .-aid the Government, would do so. Replying to G'ul. Tumble, whetliei it lmtuiided this -o— •on to tepeal the Native Lind AH nation Re-tiictiou Aot, ISSI, and, if not, vv bethel it l- intend >il to in ike am iiiaiigeinont- undu winch u>A uimes on the bank of the Mok m nvei mly lv> vvink((l by native- and Kuinpeiiis now ombaiked in the coal llidil-tiy of that UgIOII, Ml Hdlaucc lephed in the negative. Mi liillance moved tb>> second leading "f the S|ieci.»l I'cnvei- and Coutiacts l>ill. 11. asked th it the bill be lefeued to the Waste Land- Committee. Agieed to. Mi Stout moved the second leading of the Municipal Coi positions Act ArioiuhiiiMit Hill. Agieed to. Mr Rinoii lesumed the debate on Capt Rus-ell's motion. Ho lefcired to tho debate as a coalition debate, which was ,\- Hii-ati-factoiy a- the juoseut co.ihtion Coveinmeut. He consideicd the Public Woiks policy had had a veiy demoialisiii" elfoct on the colony. The Public Woik-e-tnnates now befnie the House con tuned votes foi many woiks which would not only bo unpioductive, but which would \x unwise to Lontmue. They found yeai aftei ycat votes- on the estimates for vv oikand budges which weie altogether unnecemiy, and weie in too many cases the lesiilt of pi.-ssuie i>n the lespective (Joveininents He vv is altogether opposed to the policy of the Colonial Tioa-iuu, and sympa thi-ed vvith scaicely anything th it hnn. gentleman had done. He defended the cnnshuction of the (Hago Cential Ivailvv ly a- a colotnil woik. He al-i pointed out that the w oik was now ne.ulj it piodiu tive, and tint tin expindituio of a few th i tsaiid pounds woidtl gieatlv le— en tbu annual cbugi' on il He bopi dif tin Hmisij got into committee tin \ woiilil dlciiniiiiate belwi en u-eful vnUs and tho-e that, weie altngt tlici nim«H-e— in Mi Harpei denied that tlio inemliL'! foi Si'lvvyn hid simp Tt"«l t-'ie eonstmction ol the K.ist and NS e^iOoast itai'vvaj. On the eonti.ary, that hou geiitlt .iKiii bid dotu In- utmost agiin-t thi l >tisttuction of that line, hoth inside and out side the Hmi-e He n-f'-ired to the cv cunistmce- attending tho c nstiu<-tion i,l that railway at conside^U'b 1 1« gth, and de fended the action of the ',' c ' -ibniy men bei-m i ndeavoniing to \ itai.ijustue foi then distiiot ; and as for • spt'iiditute of ]>übhc money, tho members of that dis tuct, in snpijoiting.the picscntuiution, weu dctei ininod that if one poitiou of the colony .snltei' d othei poitions should sultei with it. Mr Kt'ir complained that Ot.igo and Taianaki liad entoied into nn unholy alliance for years pri-t m older to obtain an unfan shate of public money. Howsideied it would have paid the colony well to have given Otago £30,000 (') and have done with it. Mr Macandrew said ho always held that the East and West Coast Hadvvay should have been made by the colony. It was he who lind fn-t put the i.ailvvay on the schedule, and lfjthc Government of which he was a member had lemaiued m office tbeie was no doubt that the lailway would have been neatly completed by this tune. He was surpiised at the action of the Otago membei- towards this railway and he eon-ideied they weie acting a veiy unneighbouily part in opposing it. He lefoiied to tho expeudituie m Otago, and asserted that muco the constitution wan established, Otago had con tubuted to tho it- venue foi millions, of money n.oie than had been spent in that di-tnct Mi Pj ke cotnbited the statjmeut of the nionibei f«n Poit Chalmci- tint all the Otago menibeis vveii' opposed to the East and West Coat Railway. He h.id nioio than once stated th it the lailway .should be eon-tiucted, but he was opposed to tho \va> m which it was pioposi'd t<> be coustiucted. He was glad to sec that the Government had iu>t made the piesent motion a patty question, and be hoped the House would go into cotnmttteo and discuss the estimate the itsiiftl way. Mi Tuiubiill thought the Canterbury niembui- weie makini; a mistake in the action they weio now taking. He ch.iractiMiscd the Opposition as not being opposed to the E i«t and West Coast Railway, but wcic actuated by hostility to one ot thi' inenilieis of the Government. He had suppoitod that lailw.iy, and would continue to do bo. He refeired at sumo length to the opposition of the membei for Guiuldinc to that lailway. and siid that that lion gentleman h«d beh.ived very unjustly to the Cantoibury district. Mr Hobbs saul tho tone of tlie debate

appealed to be tho wrongs of Canteibm y. The debate was inteitupted by the "> 30 p in adjoin uniont. The House losumed .itT.^O. Mi Hobbs continued -|ie iking oil tho motion He pointed out at soinu length that the distant ninth of Auckl md had not icceived anything like a fan -liiii'nf public e\[»eiiditiue. He lefened tn Mi lininiiH spteoli, aniK-aid that the Imn gentlein in had been of moio suiviee to the Govnn mont th in anj othei membei, .md Minis tei- might as well say they weie wounded in the house of then fuends. Mi Duncan had intended voting for the motion, a- he geneially suppoitod a u-dno-tion in the CMieuditmt', but he could not see hi- wav to vote foi tho piesent motion, owing to the ciicimistances which led to iU being bi ought down by the menibei foi Hawke's B\y. He thought the-upiioitei-nf the East and We-t Coast Railway should put then shoukleis to tho vvluel in the same in miioi 'is tho Wellington people hxd done with the Minawatu Railway, and themselves uudettake the constitution of the wotk. Mi Lovcsl.iin advoc.ited tho claims of NeKon to the E ist and West Coast lailway. both in lospoct of lind and the amount of leveuuo contubuted to the colony by that di-tuct. Mi O'C. ill. igh in's amendment was then put and lost on th j v out's Captain Ru.ssell 1 -, motion was then put and cuiicd on a division by II to '2' l The following is the dtv i-ion h-t .— A\e-, 14: Alhight, Atkin-oii, Huion, Heeth un, Hevan, Hiuce, IWyc, Il'ichanau, liuckland, W. F., Connolly, Dod-ou, (i.iniclc, Guin\\e«, Hamlin, H.uper, Hislop, Hobbs, Holmes, Huisthuuse, ive— , Johnson, Ken, Lake, Lance, Lev estam, Loekc, Macandiew, McMillan, Monteath, Mitclu 15,,,,, o Call.ighan, Peacock, Pearson, Kichaidson .J., Ross, Russell, Samuel, Stow.ud W. .1 , Suttnr, Thomson W. J., Tumble, Walker, White W , Whyte J. H Noes '!') . Uallance, Jiiadshaigh Hiad«liaw, Brown, Buckland J. C, Cadnnn, Cowan, Dargaville, Duncan, Fit/heibi it, Goie, Hatch, McAithui, McKenzie M. .7. S, McKon/io J., Moss, Newman, OT'onnoi, Pcie, Piatt, Pyke, Richaidson, S-ddon, Smith, Stowaid W. 1)., Stout, Te Ao, Thomson T., Tuinbull, Reid. Pans, Aye>. W. .7. Huist, Fulton, Hust, R<illeston, Wilson. Noet. : Giace, Lunach, iFoyco, Tole, Reese. Mr Macandrew explained he liad voted with the "Ayes" because he had p.med with Mi Montgomeiy and found himself locked in tho Chambei. The House went into Co umittoo of Supply foi tho coiisideiation of the Public Woiks Estimates. Vote Kawakawa railway, £4,100. Maioi Atkinson said th« House bad ju-t p.issed a lesolution ilhtming that the Estimates thould be lednced b\ a certain sum. He hoped the Mini-tei foi Public Woiks would lead the committee in the mattci. Mi Rich n d-on -ml he should move the reduction, as he cunt? to the item-. A long disuissiun .nose, seveial mcmbeis contending that Mi Richaidson distinctly stated .i tew linrhts ago tint he would move the i eduction himself if tho motion foi ioduction weie e lined. Mi Hislop -aid the committee was in a veiy unsatisfactory position. Ho thought the Government should have a fan oppoitunity of adopting -oine scale foi making the i eduction- ouleied by the House. He would move that the Chan man lepoit piogies-, i<> as t'> give the Goveiuineiit mote linn 1 for m ikni'Jf the i eduction-. Mi Hiusthmiso -aid the motion was distinctly one of no confidence. Ho thought tho membei foi O.unaiu was an\ioiis to occupy the Piemiei'-, position. Mi Rollt'ston said that the Government having accepted Capt. Russell s motion, it was their place to sec that the leductmns weio pioperly made. Mi Stout said he had distinctly stated that the Government would not take b.u k the Estimates. He contended that the Opposition was puisuing a veiy unfair ooni-e. Majoi Atkm»on sml the Pienner had stated that he would i rsigu his position it Captain Rus-^ll - motion weie earned. Mi .Stmit gave this statement .in absolute conti idictiou. Majot Atkinson said it was not unica-on able in the committee a-kmg what paiticulai vote, weio to bo i educed. Mi Rich.aul- m slid tho i eduction would amount to about £430,000. Maioi Atkinson asked whether that amount was in piopmtioii to the t'loo,ooo oidoiod to bo tiken off by the HmisJ. Su .1 Vogol sud the member for Egmont >uist>>ok the );n-itioii. Tho Government h id siid that in obedunoo to the will of the Hou-e the\ should not make Capt Russell's motion a patty question. The Mini-tei tot Public- Woiks hid also stated that he wa- piepaied to point out wheie reductions could bo made, but he would vote at'.uu-t thorn. Cipt. Ru-sell sugges-tod that th i y should vote on the hist item a- an indication ot the -onse of the committee. A lengthy discus-ion followed. Mi Rich u dson said tho following induction could be in nle in the votes tot l.ulways without uitcifi'iiug with existing cmttael- . -Huntly biandi, •£7,">00 out of JL'12,007 ; Heloiisville(noithwaids), £20,000; Hannl-ton-Th imes,?fcll.ooo off £40.000; NapieiWoodvillonnd L'almeiston Noith, £V), 000 off £111,000; niiin trunk lino, M.uton-Te Awamutu, £47,000 olf £178,000; Hast and West Coast Railway. £U!t,000 ; Picton, £SOOOoutof £21,000; Livingstone bianch, i'sOOO out of £17.400; Of ago (Vutial. £_>') 000 out of £1.U,1i00, Wattuea Sw it/cis, £10.000 ; fiom votes for additions on open iailw.iv», £20,000 This would make a total i eduction of £37">,000. Mi Hislop then withdiew his motion foi lepoilmg piogioss. The vote foi the Kawakawa i.iihvay, £1100, vv is passed. Wl.aiigaiei-K.uut>, £3200. Can led. Huntly bianch, £12,000. Mi Holmes moved that thia bo loduced by £11, .00 Aftti -oine discussion tho reduction was cat i ied on the voices. Helensville, noithwaids, £20,000. Mi Holmes moved this be stmek out. The motion was earned bv ."»l to 31. Hamdton-Cambiidgc £1100. Gained. Hamilton Thuncs £40,000. All Holmes moved its leduction by £11,000 The motion was can led on the voices. N ipiei Woodvilk* and Palmeiston Noith, £114,000. Mi Macu thin pointed out tint this line was oiie of the trm-t lemuneiative m the colony, and it would be leal economy to pa— tho vote. Mi Huchanan. and Di. Newman warmly advocated tho line, thelattei challenging any lion, nieinhet to ptovo that a bettet paving line existed than that fiom Napier to Woodville. Capt Suttei moved that the vote be le dined bv £(>">,000. Aftei consideiahlc discussion, the leduc tion was earned bv "">l> to 2\ (Left Sitting )