HOUSE OF REPHESENTATIVES.

Waikato Times, Volume XXV, Issue 2029, 9 July 1885, Page 2

HOUSE OF REPHESENTATIVES.

TI'KSDVV. i Hoph mjf tn "Mr Vincent I'vke, whether it h pioposed by tlic Government to lestiini 1 the sy,t.'iii of nniniii iti'd ltumigi iti")ii, .mil w bethel the Government will cuitiu > fiu tin i lmmigiation t<> that --i-tuiii, Mr JJ ilhn.ee «-«ud it was not intended to lesiime the -}«tern .it pie->ent, but the Government would piohably make a statement on thi» 'ii,itt"i during th" session, Sir .1. Vngel "-aid he denned to m.ike .1 •*h»n t Mm-.ten.tl statement as to tho course inteiuled 111 1 lie taken by the Government 011 their T.uilf Hill. He snid tho Government li.id cousideied c.uefidly .dl suggestion-, and criticisms upon the question of the pioposvd altfiatloiis to thti t.llllt. Thu> h.\d also considered how far it w.i-. possible to suggest modifications in the tanlF consistent w ith the pnin.n y objectof I. using levonue. He s.tid tho attentions in the. t.mfF could not be de.dt with quickly, and \eiy gloat cue would b: nece^I,IIV in lejf.ud to any attentions in tin* t.iulf. He -would theiofoie ,i-.k the Home to give them Wednesday evening to deal with the question, Tt was very nnpoitant it should be dealt with without fuithei 10-., nf time, in ciuwqueiiLP "f the iinceit.untv pre\ uliu^ 111 busine>-- cucles a> to tho projio>ed duties. The (Joveinnient would lie able to como down on Wednesday evening, and vtate wh.it modification tliev piopo>ed ti make to the House. If the private meiiibeis.igieed togive up Wednesday for the put pilots, the (Jov eminent would cm c -de them Fiid.iy night for pin ate busi-lll'-s. M^i Stout «aid if the House agieed to the com^e suggested by the Tieastuei, he should move that the oideis of the day for Wednesday .md Thuixday nc\t be pl.icod .1 week fuither on the order p.uiei. Ah Pyke ask'Ml whetlier the Government intended going on with the consideiation of the bill on Wednesday evening, or would they di-tubuto it Hr?t foi the convenience of uieiiiht'is .' Sn J. Vdgel said it would be very inconvenient to dtstiibute the bill at present, as it wa-. neccssaiy any alteration 111 the duties should not bo published piematuiely. After some discussion as to tho advisibility of adopting the Pien.iti-'b iiiggestloll Mr Stout moved that (Joverumeut business t, ike piecedence on Wednesday, which wan agieed to. The Administration Act, 1579, Aniendment JJill was repmted, ie.vd .i thiid time, and passed. The House went into committee on Adoption of Clnldicn Act. 18S1, Amendnieiit'lJill. The bill was lepoitcd without amendmeut, le.ul n thud tune, and pa-scd. The House r»y«o at hiilf-pa^t five p.m. The House lesiiined at half-past seven. Mi Stout moved the second leading of tho Gemetei ies ]iill. He s.vd the bill was intended to allow local bodie*) to appoint their own trusties, and to give them the management of their cemetei ics altogethei. Agieed to. sT\TK FOltßsis fill r— The adjoin n.-<i deb.itc on the second loading of the Kew Zealand State Foiests Bill was lesiintcd by Mr Moat, who said he would (ordi.dh suppoitit, becuisi- he believed it would have a good eflect in con reiving the forests of the colony. Mi (X'oniioi su|))ioited the bill. Mi Union intended to oppose the bill. Mr Si >ward sijppmtcd the bill, and hoped it would make piovision foi creating foitsts w hi'ie, fiom climatic lcnsons, they would not be found. Mr M'u:andrew agieed .u to the undcsnability of cicfiting ;t sepaiati- deiiait tnent foi carrying out tho pi ovisioiitj of the bill. Sir (}. Grey s.iid the bill did not at all fulfil what it uromised to do. It did not ami at the continuation of forests, because 110 piovision was uiado to prevent people ft nm cutting them down. He con«idcicd the bill was an ill-fiained incasiue. He thought especial care should be taken that this Commissioner should not be vested vulh rt«cli vi\triV>vdina\ y \«»we\s as was pio posed to bo conferred on him. He admitted the necessity that existed for protcntingtho wuntou waste of our (ymsti

that was now going on, but ho thought the bill should be postponed till nest •."--lmi, to enable a bottoi meaMiic to bo piepaiod. Mi Lake thought a gieat omission liad boon made in tin 1 Hill by tho absence of .my pro\ nion -t.itng that the industry of tho-e who had already planted forests should be recognised. Major Atkinson did not like the machineiy of the Bill, although ho *ytnpatln/i'd with the object the Treasuiei had in mow. He objected to the borrowing pnition of the Bill, and also the proposal to set apait the land for foiestry purpose. He should not object to the second reading, but would not vote for the thud reading unless sonic niatetial alterations weie made in the measure. Mr Wakeheld said he would suppoit the second reading of the Bill, as it had for its object the cousei \ ntion of the forests of the colony. He objected to the Bill it-elf, houevei, and thought if it ever cim > out of committee it would line a veiy diffoieut ettcct than the con-eiving of tho foii-^t-. He db letted to the b irrow-inpr powers pt<i posed to be gi\en He th mcht it \v is most uuw ise to appio.uh the subject, is he looked on the Bill as- oiu of tho fin inoi il measures nf the (4o\ eminent. He thought an amendment -liotild be passed m the existing liw lea\ iti'_c the aiea of p'mtit'on unlimited. He did rot see any good reason why the Koiest l'lantm? Knco\m^i» nient Act should bMnterfeiul with. He thought it would be a gieat mistake to io peal that Act in favour of an nntiied Fcheiue. Sir J. Vogel said the obj actions made to the bill weic not snllicicnt to reject it as a whole. As to eroding a separate dep u t niont, he said th; hill was so fianied as to give the House entire and thorough com m.md as to the woiking of tho bill. The object of the department should be to educate the local b idtes in a bettci system of judiciously proser\ing the forests. As for the borrowing, he confessed he would have preferred to mako the scheme a charge upon the consolidated revenue. He said the Government would be piepaied to receive suggestions in committee, with the view of making the bill as complete as possible. The nation foi the secoiul leading was agn c 1 to.

i-osr on X r mi r. Sir .T. Vojyl mined the sec md leading of the P(ivt office (To.til X..tc>) Mill. He -„nd the dliiect of the bill was to i-iMie p i«.tal note> 111 tin; colony. The bill, he explained, was not a new one. It had been tiled m Enplurd a\ ith much succe < »«>. Tt was intended bv the bill to siipeisede the money oidei and it would be much moie com einent and les^ costly than that stem. The bill ,\ha cniifc.iiii"fl th" nece^^ary cl.uim> foi piotoctingthe post-oftice fiom fiaud and foitrcn. The motion wa-i agieed to. The Hou-o adjourned at <i\c minute', to nine p.m.

WEDNESDAY. Replying to questions, it win stated that < io\ ei niiieiit would bring down a pioposal for afresh contract foi the 'Frisco mail ser- \ ice aftei tlieclos" of the fin.nuhl d»hate. That (ioveinment could not sinctiou the scheme of railway lefoim ad\ netted by Mr Vaile, of Auckland, as it would le id to a con»ideiablo loss to the lexenne. That long «i't\ice medals would ho gi anted te those inenibeis of tlie police force wlm-o long '■en ice and good conduct entitled them to such lecognition. Th.it (Joxein11 ent could not agiee to gae .1 print in aid to tin 1 Mipjioiteii of the Maoii new-popei Te Koi.innko Mi J. I") \Vh>tp intioduced the SpenciM Water Right ixVtoiahon liill. Mi Hmce moxed tin 1 si co'id leiding of the Seamen's Ropiesjutitixo Mill. Agreed to. Mi Tuinbnll mo\ed the second rending rif the X itmg Act VniMidinont I >il l. Ho explained that the object of the bill was to exempt fiiendly societies fioni lating. Agieecl to. Mi -T. C. Buckland mosed the second leading of the Impounding Act ISS4 Vmondmcnt l»ill. He sud the bill was simply intended to place the puiwncial distnct of Otipo on the same footing as the lest of the colony. Mi Stout opposed the second lesding on the giound tint it was unwise to alter the law in the direction ]n<>po-.ed. '] he second leading was carried on a division by -JO against 2.">. Mi Stout s.nd the bill, if passed, would result in great injury to small holdei«. It hid newr been the law in Otigo to 1111pou.id on infected lands A long discussion en ued, duimg which Mi Sj.lflo'i mo\ed ti it the lull b» committed tint day si\ mo itlis. He siib-e([uently witlnliew the am •ndiiient. Mr Fi«'iei mi\eilt!ic scco.id leading of t'ielir\ li u-titi mers Act, ISS2, Amend in Mil Hill (Xo. 2.) A;i.m d to Vt (iiii mess ih'iwnl tlia ••poiifl reading oftlie.VC Vet, lS(i7. AniMidni'Mit Hill He sud the bill was sini])ly to yne mem-bi-isof tin- V.C. and ])o]ic> toico the light of \otiug.it gmei.il elections. M.i I'M Atkinson opp »ed the bill, as being ni'ist d uigeroiis in its character. He sud in no other L'jlony was such pixver e\eicised. Mr liill.tncc suppoited the bill as fit as tlm Ctul Police wcie coii'-crned. Ho s,uv n>> leason why the Ci\d I'olico should not be put on the s\m_< footrig as Cixil Set xants at elections. The motion foi the second leiding was earned on a division b> 111 1 against 22. All < Jiiiiiiie*s moved the second loidnig of the Alinei's Right Fe3 Deduction JJiU. Agreed to. Air (tuiiiupv* nioxcJ the second reading of the Coioneis' .Junes Vbolitiou Hill. Mr Tole s.iid it would !)•! rather a sweeping change to ab 'lish coroners' jmic-. altogethei. He hoped shoitly to bring in a bill to reduce the number liable t > serxe on coioneis' juiies to font <>r si\. peison-'. He moved that the deb >te be .id)omned. The amendment for adjoin ninent was earned on the voice". All Downie Stew Tit inoxed the speond leading of the Evidence I'nithci Amendment Dill \ greed to Mr (i.iuick moxed the second leading of the Distiess Kill. Agieed to. The House ro-.<5 at ~i.30 p.m.

I'IIK I Mill I' <}l 1-sI'IOV. The House lOsiimed at 7. 30. p.m. Su Julius Vogel moxed th.it the House go nitii (Jnuimittco of Ways .uid Mraus, to consider the t.mft regulations. He s.ud the resolution-, li.ul boen based on lepiesentatives made to the (liiseinment fiom se\cial qu.uteis. AgHMtdaillnd boon Mid on the subject of the t.uilf outside the House, but he hoped lion, mombeis would discharge fiom their minds wli.it they h.td heard .n to thu intentions of the (}o\ eminent. With uspect to the taurt being of such .111 op»it>s. sivo nature, he desired to say th.it the changes that had been made weio based on lepreaontations they h.id leccned 011 the subject. The changes made weie foi the put pose of lesc-enuig the pie-isiire of certain aitielesintlietaiitfth.it fell heavily upon the pooiei classes. At the same time the (lounnment had to take into consideration the qupstion of the ie\enue requited, mid he did not wiy that theie might be some other alteiations which might be deMi.ible. He hoped lion, meiubeis would give c.ueful coiisideuition to the whole question. He aKo wished to t,ay that the suygostnuis made to the (Jo\eiument h.id been cuofully considered. He then outeiud into dct.uU as to the duties jnoposed, and concluded by hoping that the Housn, ni the piesent critical jxiiitiou of aff vis, would not Like tlio responsibility of lofnsing the (ioveinment the lerenue they asked for. He thought the proposals of the (io\ eminent had the mippoit of a Lugo majoiity of poisons thioughout the colony, .and he hoped that 110 question of protection 01 fieetiadc would influence the J Louse in gi\ing the (invemment the ie\enue they asked foi It would be a gee.it ios-ponsibility to refuse the (io\eminent the amount he asked foi icsenue re quneiiHMits. Tho Hou^o went into Committee of \\^n s and Means. M.ijoi Stew.ud took the chair In Ciiinmittei 1 tho fitvt item of Customs duties, that of spnits, wa-, earned on .1 division by ."> 2 to :>8 That on bitteis, wine, spaiklint,' wine, and Austialian wine, was canted without alteiatioii. Mi Mus^ mi>vud that the duty on tea be 1 educed to Id. Sn Julius Vogol said tho (Joveinment would accept reduction to .'id. Mi Moss' amendment was carried on a di vision by 111 to 13. The duty on cornflour and nthor faiinicioiis foods was ettuck off on the voices. T. icon and hams-, threepence per lb. ; negati\ed on the voices, lian.mns (ptesened), Id per lb ; canicd. Beef and Fork (salted), Is per cwt. ; npgatned. Incieiso on boots nnd shoes negatived by Hi to 88, tlp.it on biuter and cheese was viegatned, th.vton candle^ negatived by 4tt to 2(1 * Carpet bag"), 20 per ceut. ad val. ; negatived.

Mr Seddon moved that progress be repin ted. Sir (i. Grey objected to the adjournment and said lip had w>tcd against all increased Custom-, duties, until them was a reducti'in made in the rfcpattinental expenditure. The Premier thought it would be bettor to continue the discusiion of the resolution*, and a»kt>d the member for Kumar.i to withdr.iw hii motion. A long discussion ensued. Sir J. Vogel said the discussion had asMimed a semi-party character, but the diMsion h.ul not been on account of want nf confidence in the Go\ eminent, but of free trade princi]>le«. At 11.40 thti motion to repoit progress was carried on the voices, and the House adjourned.