HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THURSDAY.

Waikato Times, Volume XXV, Issue 2027, 4 July 1885, Page 2

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THURSDAY.

The H«m>e met .it li ilf pi>t two p in. Tiie following BilK hci, 1 liitmcluccii :—: — The Dunedin Cittlc .MiiM't Rj-.erve Le.ismß Bill (Mi Stow nt), ,i liill to Intend tlie Adnltei.ition I'ieventiou Act (Mr Lesest.un). Mi Uivce mnsocl, " That fchojv l)c laid bi'fmij tin** Hou>o all tf ji n t-> fiom the Chiuf .Surveyor, Auckland, ii'l.itivc to an .igiceincnt m.idc <>:» tlu' 11th Uecombci, 1883, between himself nnd certain Maori chiefs fi.i the survey of a laige block of l.\nd m the so-called KuigCmintiy, includmpf repoit on the progre-si which h.vs bei'-i made m the s.iid survey, and a* rogird-. it* prc<eud position." Agreed to.

THK NO-CONFIDENCE DEBATE. Mr O'Connor resumed the debate on the want of confidence motion. He deprecated the idea th it the tax upon ton, was an imposition. He considered the ter* used by working classes was a mere bagatelle. Many men also on the West Co*«.t <>f the South Island had ruined themselves by the excessive use of tei, which w.fi often of a \cry mfciior description. Mr Montgomery said he could not suppoit the aniendincnt of the member for Auckland City East. Such a motion should not I)<3 lji ought foiu.nd without consultation with othei members. He intended voting for the Government, but he reserved to him-elf full right to vote mi their bills as he consideifd piopei. Refining to the existing demession, lie said he had taken caie to make unqti'iies fiom all classes of people, and he found that the depiction had di opened, and that land had become •Utnost unsaleible in the South Island. There was no hope in the people, and they had no ieison to hope. E\eiy inch of l.md in the South was .ihn mortgaged up to the hilt, and the mortgagee dared not sell the propeuics because ho could get nothing out of them. Although he was m favour of piotection, he knew protectionists did not leqmroficsh duties on industries. Unless the Government promised to make large modifications in the tanff, lie should not only vote against it, but vote against the -euond leading of their bills. As to the local government proposals, it seemed to him the only change they got was that locil bodies should get subsidies to the extent of iV!00,000a yeai. It was a daugeious pio pos.il to allow local bodies to bonow -o laigely, and tlie House should prot3st against it. The finance of the Government was of such a dangerous character that he stood aghast at the natmc of the pioposaK Ho hoped the Treasmer would not think he was refeuing pois-m.illy to him when speaking of his hmnees. Ho had hoped that when the Tieasiner returned to the f?iil<my he jiad piohted by the expel ience of the past, ii"d — tun imn til . ju.o ; but lie hid changed his opinions smcul.ist, session, and th it change com incod linn (Mr Mont goineiy) that tlie Tieismer would letnin to the system he put sued when he was formerly m powei. Tho Tieasuier now asked them to establish fishei irs ,ui<l other things, but novor suggested a way <>f getting rid of the tiemendous debt hanging over them. He admitted that tlie Tieasurer had niai ve)lous ibility for construction, but ho had never taken into account the incubus which such an enoinious debt must place on thecolonv. He ventured to say that there never was a single scheme of finance that the Tie.i-urei had brought down which had turned out .is he (Sir J. Vogel) had repiescnted it. He h id irieat respect for the niajouty of the Mmistiy, bntlic considered the Tie.i-.uioi had ovei weighted them by his influence. The country, in his opinion, was on the brink of a piecipice, and unless some d cisive steps weie taken the most senou* results would follow. He should regtet tint any action of his would lemove the Government fiom office, but there was a higher consideration involved than then removal. He was resolved at any cost to vote against the Local Powers and Finance Bill, no matter what the result of such a vote would be. He would also vote lg.unst the increase of taxation of the necessaries of life, as li« consulted it his duty to adopt such a course in the present junctuie of our affairs. Mr Menteath denied that the (Jovcrn ment weie entitled to ciedit foi vigoious administration. He ciiticised the local government scheme at some length, and condemned the boi rowing piopo»als He wa« opposed to tho pi niciple «>f protection, but did not think the people of New Zra land had much to fear from a protection tariff. The House rose at half-past five. The House resinned at half past .seven o'clock. Mt Menteath continued his remarks on the no-confidence motion. He »aid tho Government had promised to buiUh the question of .ibstiact politics from their administration, but he considered then adnnnistiation had been anything but successful. Mi Holmes thought the oldest member of the 1 fouse could not remember a moie evtiaordmav state of affairs than at present existed. Hp characterised Sir G. Giey\ speech .is a personal attack on the Premiei. He defended the Government fiom the chaige of leckless bon owing, and said they were simply cirrying on the engagements pnteied into by the late Government. He thought it was tho duty of tho*e who •»uppoi ted tho Government to agree to the second reading of their bills, and suggest some alter ttion in committee. Ho concluded by raying that he would oppose the amendment, as he considered this Government had hone-tlv endeavoured to carry out their promises. Mr Bruce said he felt himself in a sohip what novel position. As the leadei of the Opposition hid assumed himself a piotectioimt, ho (Mr Biuce) felt himself without a leadei in the House. He wished to take his stand on the floor of the House ah an absolute fiee tiader. He believed the system of education was, in a sense, ndic.illy wion?, and of too expensive a character. He legretted to say that the practice of hollowing had been a partial failure, and the immigration system had been the means of intioducing a" good many undesiiable people into the colony. He thought too much prominence had been given in the debate to the depiession. The best way, in his opinion, to remove the depression was to teach the people to look to themselves, and not to the Government. Mr Beethaui considered tlie pioposals of the Government woie of so protective a charactei that he was compelled to oppose them. He was giievously disappointed with tho local government proposals of the pre^ont Mmistiy. He intended on this occasion to vote against the amendment. Mr Garrick moy ed the adjournment until half-past two next day. The House lose at twenty minutes to twelve.

FRIDAY. The Home met at 2.30 p.m. Mi Macandiew pf.iM 1 notice tonio\eon Tu»i(Liy, "That addresses he presented to the ( Jo\ernor, lequcstinp; him to cill the attention of the Impel i,il (io\eiiuneiit to the necessity of f i esh in nine simey of the New Zealand Coast, and one moie minute j scale tli.m on the pie.se.nt chaits ; also, that the New ZeilamH»o\einmeiit\\ould beglad to place, the steameis. Hinemoa, Stella and othiis suitable \ifs-?els .it the disposal of the Adnmalty for puiposp of such .sni\ej. lv leplvniß to questions, it w,i-> stated that the sections in the Napier and Manawatu railway which will connect East and West Coast weio almost ready for letting by contract, and h.iso been dhided into tlnee conti acts with the view of the lino being open from Napier to Palmeiston. ]Jy the tune the West Coast line is open to the same place ; that a sum would be placed on the Estimate-, if necessaiy foi extinguishing the hro, now burning the «cam of coal in the 10 milo creok, Drunneiton distuct; that the ica^on why Aithur Kipby was appointed as trustee to the Masteiton Park was b^cau^O he wai well qualified for it; that the railway to Dreyciton would bo opened by October, and to Mauricev llle by December ; that a bill would shortly be introduced making provision for tho Wetit-

land and Greymouth education districts leniaiuiiig two sepaiate educational districts. The following hills were introduced : — A liill to iopc.il the Beet root Sugar Act, ,1883 (Mi S. McKenzie); the Auctioneer!* and Brokers' Bill (Mr Soddon.) Mi G.wiiek resumed the debate on the no conhdrnce motion. Ho regretted that the meinbei for Auckl md City E.i^t hud tinned the amendment. From what he had heard of that honourable gentleman's administration, he thought it had had a must disastrous effect on the colony, and the House would not desire a loturn to it. He said he was a thoiough free trader, nnd condemned the duty on coal. He was in fi\our or the piopeity tax, which ha thought might be supplemented by <\n income tax. H>; did not feel himself bound to suppoit the 1 > il <j>voiniii' I nt bills, but would Liitn-so ti mi piopo-.d-f wh»n before the House He c m-idoied that if the result of th > in i(I,D -nt weie to displace the Gomm inn Mit, th 'y would lim\c behind them * numbei dt c^e'itul bilN, which it would Mot b • a disciudit for any succeeding Government to tike up and pa-* into law. Mi J 13 Whyte condemned tho financi.vl p!o;> >s.iU. He thougiit the whole policy of the Government consisted of Ixiii.iw in/, and the way tho Tieasurer proposal to give the local bodies an " assured finance- ' was by mortgaging everything up to the eyes. Mr C'onnollj said the amendment had been moved by Sir George Grey without any kmsou or justification for it. He, himself, had no confidence in the present Government on their finance. He looked on the Government as solely the Government of one man, and he had no sympathy with the opinions of the Colonial Treasurer. He thought the Local Finance Bill did not deal with the local government question at all. As to the tariff question, he desired to say he was an absolute frea trader. The only tax he liked was tb« Property Tax, combined with an income tax. Mr Cowan considered th.it the Government woie entitled to the thanks of the countiy for putting the position of the colony before the people in such a plain in innei. But they had nnde a mistake in mci easing the Customs duties, and they would be acting wisely if they adopted thi suggestions made by then supporters as to making alterations in the tariff. He said tint the depletion in the agricultural mdu-tiy in the Southland district was gie.vtu than hid e\ei previously existed, and it was a most inopportune tune to put on extra duties. The House lose at .">.30 p.m. The House resumed at 7.30. Mr Cow, in thought no reasonable charge could be bi ought against the Government for the action that they had taken with reference to dt fence. Major Stewaid thought the administra* tion la*t year ichVcted great credit on the moml>ei>. and Mini-try, ivnd he euloeised Mr Ballance on the in inner m which he had carried out his important dutiet connected with defence, land, and native affans. He criticised the Financial Statement, and was geneially favourable to the Government, bul objected to the proposed taxation on coal. He hoped Government, in bunging down the Customs tariff, would seriously consider the mitiy suggestions thrown out in the direction of amending the tai iff. He diffeied from the Government ie tho depression, and .said the TieaMirer was not aw.ne to w hat ex-tent it h.td spiead in the South Island, He consuleied it q lite impossible for any Government to biing dovv n this session any compreh -n^ive measiue dealing with local government, but if the House did not adoufr-fhw bill now before Pailiament, theyjvould lme to f.ill back on the lWd« and Bridges Construction Act, and to the Consolidated Land Bill did he look for lehef of the depression now existing. At all cv cuts, so far as the -^"'ltili Is] ""I " ■'•> concetned the prioe of giain w.n a~-fftnmii.i i .J^and he was sine the countiy had a gooq aent-tip yj tlnongh before reaching tne hippy times we all looked forward to. He intended to henitily Hiip[)ort the Ministry in maintAining their seats on the benches, but they would be compelled to modify their pro* po-als. He hoped Government would, in consideration of their sr.ppoiters, agree to a fan mo lihc.ition of then pioposala. Mr Fergus could not support the Government, and aigued that none of the members who had spoken during the debate had given unqualified suppmt to the Government pupos.-us. H,> thought it quite possible for a a Government such as the piescnt one to bring rum t> a country by bad administration, and this Government was moving in tint dncction. He chillcnged the Government to put the piotective measures befoie the House, and if they did they would hnd themselves m a laigo miuonty, as the colony was not ripe for t.ixition of that natuie. Rofernng to the Ninth Island Mam Trunk Railway, he chaiged the Govern* mont with not having aeciuired the Und 1 along the route befoie st.uting the v. >rk, as it had been destinctly undei stood when the House adoptod the route that such vvm to be done. The Government would sooner or later find what a sciious mistake hey had made. He could not follow the Government into the lobby, but would not siippoit the member fot Auckland City E u<t, as the tune had not ai rived when the Government should be removed fiom ths benche-. Whe-i it came to a vote he would walk out. Col. Tumble supported the amendment, though the present, he thought, was a bad tinio to bring it forward. Mr Hatch supported a protective tariff. Sir Julius Vog.il icviewed tho several" apeeche^ and he did not think that any Rie.it inn oa.se would result from the suf go-ted reduction of the exemptions from tM piopLMtv tax of fiom £">OO to £200. (Left Sitting.)

It is said of a certain lady that her temper is such that she would fight a cir* cuhr saw -and that in motion. Ov being asked whether lie was guilty, a New York eriirinul answered — "I guess I am, judge, but I'd like to be tiled all the same."

" Woman's Right,' 1 exclaimed a man when tho subject was broached. •• What nioie do they want ? My wife boisei mo ; our daughters boss us both, and the servant gnl bosses the whole family. It's time the men were allowed somt rights."

Printim: is TruKKY.— Strange ai it may sound to us, printing is an innoT*ation in Turkey, the inoi c intelligent of her people prefeiring the woik of the t.eribe to that of the type setter. Only of recent jears has typogiaphy made any piogress among the Turks. One of th« new wonders in Constantinople is a punting office established by Osmnn Bey»j under the pationage of the Sultan. The* establishment is provided with all the latest resources of a first-class American or European printing office, containing fourteen steam presses, -with separate rooms for lithographic work. Here aro pi inted the official notices of the Government, the docnments issued by tht Minister of finance, vv hich, of late, have been very fair examples of chromo-litho-graphy. Osman Bey's printing office is by no means a Government establishment ; its claim to the admiiation of the Tui ks rests on the copies ot the Koran there printed. The sacied book of Islam must be reproduced without an error ;ft mistake would be regarded as more heinous than a crime— a calamity. The misplacing of an accent would bp looked upon as a sacrilege. To defer to so deeprooted a popular feeling, master printer Osman Bey has recourse to the lithographic process as offering fewer danger! of accidental departures from the original text. Not counting the Koran, there weie recently twenty-one works on hand, including a history of the Ottoman Etnpue, a Fiench-Tinkish Dictionary, and a tieatise on anatomy, illustrated with wood engravings. Two hundred and tint ty men . lie employed, some of them Mussulmans ; the latter woik with /e.il and intelligence, under the direction of European foiemen. The spread of punting tluoughout Tin key could not fail to exeicise a beneficial influence on that country. With an abundance of cheap books and papeis, the Turkish people would soon emerge from the mental darkness in which they hare dwtllt so long. Thcieisno uiissionaiy so successful, no ci\ llising agent so potent ao the printing press. Osmau Bey has sow n the seed of what cannot fail to effect the disentlnalment of his people from the woist form of government on earth. — Pi inter's Circular. Mcsh-h W J. Hunter and Co. will sell at the Ohaupo Yards on Tuesday, the 14th ins>t., 70 2-yr-old steers, dairy cows at c.ihnu,', f.it cattle, cahe&, yearlings f«t and. store sheep, &c,