(Per Press Agency.) HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Monday. The House met at 7.30 p m. MINISTERIAL STATEMENT.

Waikato Times, Volume X, Issue 671, 7 September 1876, Page 2

(Per Press Agency.) HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES . Monday. The House met at 7.30 p m. MINISTERIAL STATEMENT.

Aft>T a little formal business, M<jor Atknuon mil that, in accnrdance with the promise givea tbe other even ns< — George Grey rase to a point of order, sajinic that the laer Mi 1 the Attorney General of New Zmland should not bo a membir of the ELmift (dies of "No no.") The H<>n tho Prcu>ior then-Tent! the nam<i and offic< » of the diffract Mini tern. In nferencu to the f irmatiou of tne Ministry, ho mil the Homo ha I for tome time b en f opinion that then* (■hould be a .new political Attorney General; ami iv acc<rlance with tb%* wish, Mr Whituker was appoint* d. Mr John Hull hadonseotel to asunt <D Pollen in the Upper Ilouno, without portfolio or pay. Mr G H MoLean aNo consented to aid the Ministry at present, a'ro without pity. Before the session closed, he would have to ask the Hou-o to increase tho number of MJarind Minister*, in order that the- work «if th^ country might he carried on effectively. Sir Donald Mol>»n did not intend to remain lon^ in offi -e, hutwoull remnin nnme noontfis wi^h ihe view of en itavouriiig to ammiUte the of the natives with that of thn Europeans, -awl not »p a personal one. Or Pollen at»o wus desirous of ba ng relioved from h» duties He t xplamed that the hon. (tenth man had been many yearn in public lif<*i and that th>) time he was Millet *r of the Crown wnnl 1 no' bcounted in hiv t-"m a« a Civil >»«rvn»t, Mr hi Kichardrou had anked that h" mi*ht al o bo relieved as soon . fter tin> Mid of tho sesmon »t p-S'iblo. The hon. Premier th u n rif md to Sir Juaia YoK'l'a retirement, ai d »fti < thn colony woul s'lffor » j<roat )o j « by his dt-parlu-e, and that wh'Mi the hi<-t<)ry of tlm c dony oima to lie writ'en, ho wmi'd \<e foun I to ono of h"r for>'m- st, if iot flut. wtatcdm»n — obo wh"*e ih'ttd alike conceive I »n'l dared Th«-y |tropos«'d to »/ffur him tho flffi oof Atjo- 1 Oomral, th<>ni?h they belinveit he w»>»ld iiot b> jrojarodto hoi 1 i"; for more than a *hoit p»-r od, when thy would a^k the HoiMt-to con-»iilt-r the wholn question ot the gentT}(>neralfthip Of th«ir main policy, he Haid htt-tnuxt mak«» /he avowal tha''Abolition would be earned out, and that Provinoi»!mm in iviy form would not 1 be resuscitated It would bu tho duty and care of the Government to s< c tfm trann. ition from tho old to the new shoul'l oa'ii»i> ht le f notion "For th»tolj>ct tbe Government hal ahovly taken »t- p«. but nothimr w<ou)d be moiee/T'ctual thin cordial « copor.aion with enuiing Provincial Gowornm j nta. Upon the qicatton of tlie Lv d Furt'i and Scpa'ati >n the I ©up wo'li exp'ct a dinimot avowal. Ho wihh <l to make it as distinct as posHtldc, ihe II >ust hdf >r this **Kaion •I'-cidi'd tho qucstio . T>» G'Vprnrn<nt scae-pt tho deoiro >, wha'. evor m\y l>« tie opinion of in lividual m>n,b-ra tliercof. With rp^ard t<> loans *n.l ptiblio works, thny proposed to auk nuihuitv to ritio £2 U(K),0O(), bnt enly, '1,000/iPO 'hn seHkion, the <h«f portion nf -which would be r< quired tomoet P orin<ial liubililio^. Ihoyde mod it mc'/isaiy th t the mTii) trunk linen of the col -ny s l ould b • oinio 1 on continuously hut not tit -uu'i n raoirl rate hh herctofoto. If th i Ifottti det nu'iied to continuo the synt»in of Pidlic W.>rk«, it w^u 'I b«* npre^fury to gtva the Government pivrer io ra<so the nv>npjr To atop the r<ub ie wo -ks t |>rc<n t would bo a grrnb dmtflti'r. If puUi* w irk* und Miimißr tion were 'o be carried on continuouslr, it would be reoni y to provide mean* this eejiioi:, heouse altlioug'i tho h>tl .me of loans, £80,0 0, would cvry )ht>m Bi)rn» way into next jtvir, it would bo imposfiblo to pa°M a Loan Act next s»Mion*'id oblain the money until «omr> months af'er th' 1 bul'incn hud been oXprnded. *They would not be uiclmod to enter into works u» il th» means for c«rrjinj{ tln-m on wera pronde J. Ho di I no' thn k it deairalile to sell the 6800,00) guuranteod loan. In connection with thn loun«, he would mention that Uio Act for the inHcintion of stock wu« a mo inure from wh c i the colony not only derived present a'lvant vires, but that it. woul i be likely to f 'Cilcato th" nsi'w; of further loans. Tbe credit of this arrangement was entir-ly ■due to Sir Julius Vog'l- Uogirding immigntion, Ih" Gorerumont propo<-d io continufl immigration, and Ptpei-ully to < neouiogo thn nominatod sy*lein, mhip« tlmr in no long timo tho nomina'«d immigrant', now inoreaitirg rer? fa-t, would m e^ nil the rrqu romcnN eftho colony. To ih) fl^u»i('i>l airon^emcuts of AbtfUlion, ho ttiil thon«w ni-ra^gameriti wauld bo my aregtrdiDi h)«pitalsand museums. Tli« question of c mcation would bi> oondidi'r d next session, in the shape of a general measure for tho wholt colony Ti • V'ntive Lnnds Bill, ho sat 1, w< uld be abimiunud. Th« Counties Bill wns alao to be modified, by whii'h it, would bn left to ench county, afcor being mauppd out, to decide whe th. r they shoull a»aii thouisclves of tli-J new counlio* or mikt uso of the syttam of roid boird», and »» mike the cjunty j councils merely d>stributire bodies, i Ihpy proposed, with tha ossismrce of h'.norable mombors, to tako upon (him c vPs tho responsibility of defining thfi oou ities thioiiuhoufc the colony. In cierj ciao the t, J uu'.\M:.gmmli_ehx l uld-u^.

the fiiat mst'inco bo elected, and upon their first meeting pa^li council should decide for itself whether it desired the county to be governed by ro mty organisation or by road boiirds If they determined by rmd boirdi, then such county shoul I be«vna a in m dis'ubu'ing body, to ciistiibutu tli a sup'u? land revenue, toll% pound for pou id ftios, &o nmonf the various rtt'id boardi in tttit county. On tho other hind, shoul J * county pr< for to !>»vo the county ogaiusvion, it would take the ininii-oment. Tliry were cur«fully cods doring the estimate* wi h a view to red a* turn of rxp-ndinno and economy. Tho Nat ire Lands Purchase Dt'partme 1 1 wou'U be handed over to the Crown Lands Cciinmiiiicntri, with tho viovr of doing away with tnat dopariment as ioon u p>ssMe. That wns t 1 o polioy hf hid to #übmit, and if ic met the approT'l of 1)10 Home ho hud no doubt tho bu<in<ss could be got h'oug:i in a month, Tlie lion gentlemin «o\ic tided at follows :— " I bare submitted a policy which I hope. will be ace ptablo. There is nothing in it probably wi ich the lf»U3o will not him aiiti* (iiiatfd, for so far at wo cm tee thartit but one policy open to the colony. On the one band, a »t a ly pursuarico of our public work) ir<thin the limit -> of our means, and on tl.s other, pru'iem aid effl cient ndiuii>i*t'.ati<Hi in nil brancho- if the ptiblia ftdrviccs " Tho hinxnblo gentlem in then nuvad the adjournmeut of th« Houso. VI p Andrew unit d leave to more withowt notice. " that the Houso disapprove of fie proposed ffVr of thi Agent-Generalship lo Sir Ju'iua Vo,»el •' Thit b ens objected to, ho gate the usual notieu to move. Upon puitiDg the question of adjournment Sir George Grey agiin pub hii quei« tiori with regard to thj Attorney Ge.it nlship. Mr Wh taker than made a personal exp'anntion, to tho eff.-ct. that it was well known that In held diiferent views regard* intj Separation to tho o'her members of tho Midi tiy but pointed oit that while ho WA4 ilill rf the iimo opinion, Iho felt bnun Ito ii cc pt te decision of the Hou«e on tho subject, and would tnie&vour loyiilly to carry out tho wishes of the House in tho mutt or ; but hy, at tho same tioio, held himself at I'bcrty, if he saw thit a majority of tie House held the sameviows as himself on Financial S*pv rat'on, to rep* ate fr <m the Ministry, and act as he thought proper under the ci'cumstancm. As t • hit npi>ointment as Attorney-Gmrra', the hon gentleman wont nt aomp fn^ih into the pror ■ on«of the law on ho m> t?r, and explnined th.it h n vrnn rot appointed under any Act upon the subject, but under tho general I'owen of 'lie Government in su-h a case. In replying to the statement mide by Mr R< en The. Ifon >fr Whitaker mid he did not eive tho Government the legol opinion us to the xppoin'munt, but thar be concurred in it. Mr Hre» took objection to fie number of Mini«f,«n as i legnl, and quoted from tho Rlatit son tho qun'li>n. The lion Mr Whitiker said he would be hnppr to m»et Mr Rcei and Mr Stout (who • hear, ' enrrd'him) in the Supnao Court that. Ilousn not bcinjj the proper tribunal <o diicnsi the point Mr Thomson proceeded to take objeotim to the <jompo«ition of the Min^trv, whom he rnnsHe' d not a hflppr family. It appeared »o him tJiat the chief members of the Mininf rr were sb 'Ut to retir* nhortlv. Take awiy the l^Bt ye Minister, thf Minuter of Public. Works, «nd the Colonial « w coret*ry, and he wou'd ask, whit <va< left ? Whr, they mijht at well form a Uinittry by shikng th« names of wmlicrs in «.Htj .inh 'to i«U7h a residuum 1. fr, us they would Nay« af'or the resienatiom referrel to. ffe wA if that plan woie a«lo -tod. tho composition of tho Ministry would at lea*t have b'en hiror, find d ft*, rent pirs of tho ro'ony hotter r^|irc»<'iitod II" thought if tnei had 'in Exomniv.* Cnnn-il at all, ih-y sliou'd all rcniiin in Wrlhnjjton to consult to -other, a d not havo *tioh nn iinportmt ofllcr as Attorney Gm» ral re-ident at Auckland e'wh* monih" in the r^ar. Thjy mijjnt as well cirry our tho principle by getting mcmSors to conduct the OoTcrnmtnt of the cnu try by tel er>»ph, and not have a mestinsj of Parliament at all. He also took except'on to tho number of Nfini • ter«, -saving the Govornmcnt mii»ht as « ell at once plao* their m» j >rity on tho Govcrn-nont benches. Ho also took e*xr»D*ion to tho iiaicy propounded a-« un-siiti^fi-Corv. Mr St« v*. who follow el, tad that the Pern f t* policy was not very new. It* roots mem-d to be Abolition only »nd tl a* of a very wido kind. It neemed tn h- rao'l'v tho abolition of the policy of tl c 'at* Prrmior. While he wculd not discn™ Ih« policy on that oocaM' n, h»» info mod the Government tha^ the way in whmh the B"uno waifoim d w«s altogether unp'-'-ced'ntod Wh»t amounted to a vofe of want of confidence h<d bsen mnvftil »nd »< soon as a re-construction took ploca ihf mover nf that moion wan tak"n into tho'Mininlry It was nothing t.#w to leave, open question* in n.o Cabinet, but it uai not usual to see ■liff- n nt m mbf m of the Otbinet ho'ding oi<potite vi^wa ur^on questions that mu&t <>f ne-is-'i'y h* Government quesii'xin H ■ a'> o o' j 'cted t» tsking hon genHt wn into tl c ' aninet without «»Ury. Jfe wa9 ab>d prerodenl;, and was c«!<u'atol to throw the G'»vernm«r,t of 'h^ country into the handa of th- moneyed elates, Mid 'f it was TieoeBsa«y to plaoa any nnmb rof gpntlem^n npoa Ihs benches, thny «'-' u'«t be p»id Ihi» practice was like pu'ting gentlemen on the Govern. ment benches <a* apprpntioes to learn ihoir duties, and receive no stlary it nonsfq one*. Tonching the appointment of Auie-it General )t seemed highly improper to di»ou« the question while the hnn Ml lister f ir W«ni{atiui was a member of the Ifnnao. Such a rnurae was quitu uncorsMtufional, and caloulaUd to restrict freedom of dincusMon. Tho Ministry should h«r<i had th« oourage of their their ronvictio««, and appointed Sir Julius Votel at o ioe, inst ad of prncti. oally asking the Hou«e to Lad themim legislation. What position would thi Government be in if the Honae refuse I to grant the appointment* Why, y would have to resign, (flear, hear, f/om •h* Ministerial benches) Another point referred to hy Mr S'out and Mr Thomsoa «a<, an to an $de% that w<« abroad, viz that tbo Attorney-General wan to take precedence of tbe Prem er at Government House. Sir Deore«) Grey potnted'y asked if snoh a «tatem<int was true ? The Premier »aid the quextton wag not v*ry clear to hm. He requested that notice be q veil in the. u*nal way. M r Roliestnn asked how the £2,000,000 loan was to he rtiied ? The Premier »aid, whsn tha tnat'er o»m <on hi due course, all <he Dscessary inforn>at on would h« elicited. The Ifoiifo adj'inrned at 9.40 p.m.