PARLIAMENTARY.

Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume IX, Issue 2589, 4 May 1887, Page 2

PARLIAMENTARY.

[tJKJTED HEM ASSOCIATION] •:;■.* -f!> ■ iVH HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.' \ v >H Mr Hfuiilia took .the chair in the ■]. _ ; jH absence' of the speaker. . fJH Mr Pyko gave notice'„to ". move.-in '.' '.sJB committee of' the Representation Bill " .-.?; h that a modified form of the.Haro system fl should be introduced into tho Bill.. r ffl Replying to questions'i> was stated'; m the.'...,' -;' H ]and.;propos*l- to be ffibluded in the ■ . ,' B ,Tongariro Moirifywrk. ;' ' ','' ■£■ "That the ream why (tie Auckland. . '. ■;« battery did nonreturn the salute of the. ">« French Admiral inthe%rshipDuquMsi» , :ffl -was because several liiembera of tho. ;H Artillery were in Wellington performing ' : ~ ; H oxeroiaea in connection witli the new guns ; H and notice of salute was not! given till. '.-; six o'clock, .'■;.■ That the Government "Steamer. Stella',, ' H was not specially sent to'Gr'cyraouth to ;.'.'■;■ bring two members of the Legislative ' '.. • oS Council to Wellington, bat that, at .the' : "'.!,.'■ "H member's request it' was' delayed thsre 'B for a few hours to bring them to Welling , ]iM ..That, the question of teaching the•• ■ art of swimming in public schools wis one M for school Committees to'deal with. •. jH .Sir Robert Stout introduced the Legii*; .-.' fflra lativc Council Roform Bill; ' - ; '- ; iflß| ~ Major Atkinson objected -to a Bill of < JEn that nature boing brought in the House J&B&U without any notice,, and said' tho- prcpujHH&B place to introduce .the Bill was : in, thJ||Bß|M[ Legislative Council, , ■ 'Jlflßflfjfi Sir Robert Stout differed .from wRHHHH He regretted that Major Atkinson try to fetter their, right.of dealing. wmHSH reforms of tho Legislative Conncil. ''^^^BBB After further discussion the Bill was.' • fMH read a first time. :v • : B .Mr Ballance moved that.a select com- ' :jj mitteebo appointed, toconyst'of Major : ' ;■ Poacock, Bruce,'Hatch, Moss-and,t|ci',. ■ ffliHl mover, to consider how manufactures aiii m|Bj induatnea way bo eiicogaged.:•.'' r; ' • : ■ After a long discussion; several•ruemVi •'■'wc bera oonsidered that it was -purely a pro- '• ; tectionistcouimittee,-.aiid.that it.waaonly.:.: meant to release tho Government of its V'-; • ; ; responsibilities. / It was eventually fully ayreed t0...,. Mr Ballanco introduced-the Lind Acquisition Bill.. , _. ••..•'■ ... •• ~';•' On the motion for goiugintocommittee '- ■■ '-• ■■ on tho Repreaentatton Bill, Mr Leviitam ■ -•■ I spoke at some length on the proposed-per lM centages to country, districts. He con' B sidered Sir Robert StoutVproposaTreally ■ meaut to iucrease. the represeutatloh at ■ 1 towns aud take itaway from the cduutryT . ; 1 He thought tlie Government shouldhove I led the House, and stated ,what number .. f iu their opinion, the House should consist';.,; . j

■ Mr Downes statod that represantatiort \..fjshould be riven to tho )New Zealand' , ( University, . .;.. ' Mr O'Connor said that the house would have had quite enough, of appointing ; Boards to decide important questions. ■■■'-.. He coußidecerl Uie proposition"■ between ' ''." town and country was not uniform, and he . deprecated talcing provincial 'boundaries v' ut proposed in tho •■'■•;•'•■ •Mr Hobbs believed in the ; population' ; .' b»ii«, but it should bo done fairly ut •.": regards the country, and not be. referred'.. ,: ; < to a Board to be doalt with in a hard tod : ;i fait manner. ■'- ■■'. '|' ■ MrScobie McKonzie thought the Bill ,'■' •; exceedingly narrow and. ill-timed, and.!,,, bated ' on thoroughly, conservative. '■ principles, and; felt, sure that • if-v the opinions of thecountry.members.were, reasonable, the town members'would '- support them, lie considered that the.'.',', population basis failod to give equality of"':. ropresontation, He favored referring tho:*:"'.' matter to a Parliamentary Committee t > instead of to a commission, it proposed" in •' the Bill, .'.. *./..... .■% Mr Newman thought the Bill an . excellent one, and considered an outside ' board would work exceedingly well. ■ He favored an amagsmation of City electorties. . r: :■■•■'•,,■ ', ■;■•■ ■ _ Sir Robert' Stout said.that Mr McKenlie should have concluded his speech by . moving that tho House, should not procoed further with the Bill. Ifthe.Hottte accedes to tho largo demands madoby tb.9 country membors, the North Island Would reoeive no moreased representation, and if they gave t» tho country districts all they wanted, it would be bettor not. to pans the Bill at all. ~ •' " The motion for the committal .of, the Bill was carried uuanimoUaly. The House rose at 5.80 p.m. , .

. The Home resumed at 7.80 hi com... tnittee on tho Representation Bill.:'■' ■ • '"' .. Ou Clause 2, Mr Pyke [ objected'.to'; a': ' :> '*'. 'permanent com miawon boitig appointed . •" fpr'the. purpose of adjusting', the,reprV>' •."■ solvation. It looked as.if the House iucompeteut. for the work itsolF, ■■'■ Ho • '"^' moved the postponement-of the ; Clause, '. ' '"'.'i? Mr O'Connor inovod to strike out the • """■* word " permanent." '■"'"' '/.;■'.' "" ,-.... ~; Mr Rolleston out that it war ■■ • • •■■■} nut: clear whether inombow of the'House v •' '' '" were to'bo dobarred from places ; on : tho w " % "'. commission or not. ''"'\ :","'■'"'■.'''-... ■ '.. Sir Robert Stout aaldhe hadna' tions to insort a clause .precluding •.-. . bers either of the.Houso.or :the.Civil-'- "'■'' Service from Boats, on the comraissioji. H* "'" : ' : Mr Fulton thought/the CbminiiitionerrV •' " ; would not be aa well able ,;> v ,' ra&ttcr as a committee of the.House;.and ••' •• •"ffc moved to strike out. the' cjauio with i :>., ■'■• view to inserting another. ' ■•i. '■•.•; ..Mr.Tcacook was of opinion thaffthe' ' ; \ self-adjustinp-clauso as .proposed in'mld ' be given a trial. ' ' i-.;:' ■■■ -k , 'The Premier could pit understand. '' ; ; : how a coramittee of. raewberii,,. many of ' ; " i ' whomhad never been south-of Cook'i Strait ev in iuckland,could pesslblj. ,' ..' know so muoh of the Country'B< ; the v: , Surveyor Genor*! wlti) knew every i»r« • l*f of it, or the Auditor. General ,. • r& been into every ,plac« where'there w«!TV».. any population. • , /: ~ ..' :, v ':v^ •Mr Menteath suggested that the 'debate '■'•, '-■ ought to be repotted. :;,,-' :'" V . . ■Mr.HursthpusoWanted: to '■'*■; M\ hadlskediQrihfcbJll '<■•■- betterpasr iißhort'fwfc^ext^Bding-th'e'.." ! present act for three "'';r ." > : 'V'.;- ; -r.; ;:• Tepiir't-. ipg debates ; m' l .; Thj'ihotion being put wtolost;';'- , ; ' '?'. "■:: 'Mx ' ':'£?. tha'SiH:w«?very %' ■'<'■:•% tJrp^ly^iwd:inthe]Jorth : i>lani' •' ' "'■■'." \; '"^ ■"■ .' ' , ■ ...'.: :."' y,-''^V : ...vOT

lew the Chair which was lost ou the* voicos, ' <. ' Tho House divido'dbnMrPyke'sa.mondment : ayes, 14; nooß, 61. . Mr Fulton withdrew his amendment, Mr Barron asked what the commission wof» likely to cost. -.. . Tho Premier said ho thought it would, cost under L 500.■, •'.-.■-,• ....'_'. v ., ; The proposition to" strike out'theyrQrd- " Perthfidant;'.' wm 105%44't0..% *&. . Qfrthe rfib'tion of 'making ,"merabro,..j}f ; thg; coffl'ifjisiifrn;, ;•;':'■ ■-"^"-' r : •'' '.'..■ *..;.'•:•■ • On;'e!ause.;3 (v th(4.Preininr said..ho.' b«nfii3uc|jtto.Bo.' x ,,;,, T . r ,^^ . : 'frould .make it CO. I■ MrPykewished to raave'hiß'.'motion, relative to the introduction of ut modified Hare system, but was. ruled out of order'; Ho tlienapoke strongly against the Bill; Mr J. 0. Buckland moved to reduco the number of members to 50. Mrßrycethouglrfcthat'i'ob small,' but would like to s«o tho present number decreased. , ; . ■ 'The Premier pointed out that su'clian alteration would mako the country districts too large and unwieldy. Mr Buckland withdrew his amendment, and the proposal to make the number $b wbb negatived by/13 to 33. Mr Fergus proposed that tho number be7s. . The Premier thought it yju too few. Mr Peacock Mr-J; McKenzio mjjvcil'.fur 11 Mjsßfa Loveitam anil Walker objoctpd t to-such a small' House, the Tatter-saying that to reduco the number of members would be pernicious step kckwaids. Mr W, F. Biickjaiid' siipportol .tiie roduction, and Mr.Jlacarthui opposed any altorati'oji. " ■',',»• ;!.iii Aftor; tho auppor adjournment, Mr Rollesto'n favored the reduction of members in tho hope that other subsections of | tho clause-would bero amended eo as to greatly benefit the country districts. '

Aftor sbrtio further discussion Mr Stowart'moved to report progress, which was carricd,"and the Houst rose at 11.55 p.m. '•■"••