PARLIAMENTARY
|V ,':■•';;|U^p'-PJ4Kss' , Asiociwb)j|) 'jjl 1 : l ; : ; ... ,§ir,R! 'Mi 1 ,'faetaber of the' Executive) ■ Replying to : quiatioiw' it^&a'' ritftted' that it'was h'it lini'e'n^ci^tp,,,,bring down any measure ?■' '■''''''", '>> i: ; 'Mr.;J^^^AyL; ; "T)ipn]ps,un. m'o\fea"'tli'4lJ."4 ri ;fi(Jnittiittieß'be : appointed, to enquii'e "ih'irt'" ''ji'ndre'liol't'Wether/aiiyjmembers of tho ■re.ee, other eration f or ; ptompibipg, t|i9 f passing' of '.'tile' , 'or''foi ; sale or purchase of, ;.deh!en'fe^ I« debate) pnr phe • 1 Fihan'oial Sta,(ement!.by..«aying ha toblu" 'mostdesbShdent'view'iof:the immediate so Bbro'ngly ■ ~pji, the.Bubjec.tfihijtjf; ■of .affaiw,.<Jid.. ixoi jpj)i>;|'j;ome' about, he ■would''ietoifroiaipolijiicgi. altogether. It ~| i,nfjirfonktethat''the Treasurer was .^'^aiote^'^'tho'bb'r^Virlgg^policy now. , enunwated f a parwiih 1 Vogelfspolioy,air.'fchr/)Ugh,^; i n i wel.y, one of cxthe Btate of markets' forvN#iVZealand produce M^|klw|r insisted that for Vogel's ■.expecfation: ; or rally in prices.' If they;;lbpke<i;,;their difficuKidi! : fairly' i ';in ; 'th'e' face they would do well enbugli, but'it would not do f to.gp on as 'atthepreseht'timp. They'alreadyh'a'tfa'-' bajl reputatyqn for debt and taxation, and •yijt it'was; proposed to lay; fresh burdens prf their'-flKouldersl'^-He l cautioned Mr Ballaiic^tliai!liehadibetter lookout the Maoris were not selling him all -the, badgood, andjhir«jL viewed' the in,. ; adverse spirit. 'Go'yjerjinien't'' 1 ''said'tttiSy p c£i'iild'6r , ooufdnot wftSipwaifciveftliey be madev.bflfpiie.jjwp eodnomy would-shortly.become necessary, bub he fchought.th.o people scarcely]under-; stood l theii! position- yet.; He finished by .asking.thflQoyflrfflnent not to reply to liiimiiwith:a:bu»e/.orjßne,era; ; Mr!Ba)lance/cpmme"nded the style al, .Estimates. He pointed' lout cnat J ne had'' l for year's piefn/a hearty followetof .Yogel's .P#io,jW/prks"Policy. IMr'Bryce had; ;Bai.i<9,Qv s er^ment i •afcMuris<jtu, \|hile-kl|the lest .pljieir/ <b..e gM tojiear itmitiev had induced' ISWB mily M mAM Waikato chiefs, !t9 : ,p^Bitheir / |] j a i gB J ||ro l ugh the , jftcres ■ffo#, J &hqrljly l j,J) 9l available,:.,, pf ...jj-hich r the desirable. He asked Mr Bryce if he thought the depression wa« never to be
remedied, .Iminigintion cortainly was t not affected by our*'indebtedness which i was not now proportionately so heavy as i it once had been.. The policy of the 1 Treasurer aid those associated with him i had been,to abolish usury on loans for < He did not think I Mr Montgomery Bhould lmve taken the i position he did, whioh was that of an I auctioneer. The Government had offered ] one amount of reduction, and he wanted an advance, The question of puttie? : people on land was the most important question at present, and should be put before all others. Mr Montgomery had accused, the 'Government of inc'pssant | borrowing,' but he himself was quite ready to ask for railways for his own district. He held the Government was quite entitled to a.- dissolution if the policy or personnel of the Government was attacked. No Government could possibly reduce their estimates by £75,000 during the year. It would causo great hardships throughout the country, Mr Macarthur did not think membors were going to be frightened by the dissolution bogey held up by Mr Ballance, It was absurd to talk -of dissolution on a question like the present, He thoupht no Government which could possibly be formed would hold more diverse opinions than the present Government. The debate was interrupted by the 6,30 adjournment. Evening Srmtra. Tho Houso resumed at 7.30 p. m. Mr McArthur went on to refer to the difference of opinion between Ministers, and adverted to the general ignorance of members as to the finances of the colony. He praised'the local bodies proposals with which he thoroughly agreed. Dr Newman wondered why the Government regarded this as a no-confidence motion, whereas last year half a million could not dislodge them. Retrenchment should begin with Land Boards, some members of which drew twelve pounds a mouth of Government money. Absentees and Maoris escaped all taxes except the Property Tax; they ought to be made to pay towards the' cost of governing the country. The District Courts wero too costly. Ho reiterated what had boen said by previous speakers as to the specious nature of the figures on the Financial Statement. Considering the Treasurer's great experience he was disappointed. at his not having done more for thoir finances. When he vaulted into power he lavished promises broadcast, not one of which he fulfilled. He was afraid tho Colony was getting into a sad plight, and he was sorry the amendment had been brought up so suddenly, because it placed members who would like to vote for it in an awkward position, ' Hon. Mr Richardson gave some figures regarding the railways to show that they had been worked with the utmost economy. Thought ninety additional miles were opened last year expenses wero £60,000 less than the previous year. Regarding the work done by the Maoris, about which questions had been raised by Bomo members, it had been keenly competed for, and executed quite as well and as cheaply as that by Europeans. He asked the leaker ot the Opposition how it was that last year the liabilities were oatriod on to the expenditure voted for that year, and no question raisod about it. while this year it appeared to come upon them as a new discovery. _ Major Atkiiißon asked if the £386,000 liabilities on railways would be all charged to the million and a half proposed to be voted. ! Mr Richardson said practically all 1 would. Mr Whyte said the Government during the recess had learned many usoful lessons, and evidently now knew more about what the colony wanted than they oncodid. If thoy survived this division they would probably learn still more. It would jie an easy task to keep tho Governmentin because this session they had 1 kept thoir measures out. They heard nothing now of many of the questions brought forward last sossion, The hon. member continued in satirical terms. The House divided on the question that works proposed to be omitted stand part of the question, Ayes 44, noes 28. 1 The amendment was lust on a division. COUNCIL. {! £iMr Shephard prosentod a petition from 2 ; Pj|idMiiof Ohristchurch, praying for *'■ ■|r|^orawqH;|ri i the law, bo as to eive / to girls and young f without notice, moved "that a message be transmitted to the House of asking that the Hon. Mr'Tole may be permitted to givo , evidence before.a Publio Petition Com"mi|tee, j Nlative to the reception of '• Cardinal Moran! The motion 7 ?aa agreed to. Mr Buckley jajd that as to the want of '■ coiifideheoi motion it was pending in l: another, place in'accordance with oustom of Council. He desired to move that they ■adjourn 'the ..motion. Agreed to. Mr Wilsongayenotioo to move that it ; of the Legii- !< Mure, in tjie ; presin,t financial stato of the '(. icolony.shquldijorego this session half of their honorarium, and that membors of ~. ;ooUncil4ec!are (l their willingness to make this concession'..; ;: ;/; | r iI/The'-CpuM' adjourned till next day,
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Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume VIII, Issue 2312, 4 June 1886, Page 2
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