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Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume 4, Issue 1153, 16 August 1882, Page 2

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n :" ;' j UNITED PREBS ASSOCIATION | - MSON ' Dwbdan, this day. At the police oourt Thoa. Magill diaper of arcade was charged with having set fire. to his abop on 30th July, The Crown proseciita'iri the opening said ono important; quettion. was, "How tire fire could have originated within' ; plaie; ''the prisoner being the only, person there for some hours pievioualy, 'withont hiß .haying gome hand in iti" It, would be shown that stock in premises hhd been valued at £1892, and that it 1 wsb insured for £2OOO, 1 also "be -shown that at the time of the fire, accused was expecting fustier goods to the ' value of £2OOO, . On the night preoeedinf! the-fire; the books w}iich : . had , always been'lept on the' premises had'been takeh away by a Mr Summerfieldj ! with : tliepri3onet.V.knbw}edge, The prisoner' was furtlior remanded until Tuesday next.' Siffi JULIUS YOGEL.' : Dotomn, this day. . ' Sir Julius Vogel will leive Melbourne for this colony either oh the 22ml or 29th fast; 7 ' ' ' ' * "i 1 - INQUEST. ,: . Nasotr, this day,An inquest was held on the body of Nelson, who was found dead in his cell at the gaol yesterday. The evidence showed that the utmost attention and kindneßß was shown to decioaed, who was leff alone at his own request, and although the doctor whosaw. the man on Sunday mon ing had disgnosod his case correotly,_ there appiiared no probability.'of a fatal ' The post mortem found that death resulted from congestion of the lungs, but the liver waa,diseased, also stomach and intestines, Verdict was given accordingly ,<'• MABTERTC)N BOROUGH OOUNOIL. i'-l The' usual meeting, was ' held at the Council Chambers last evening. : Present: His Worship the Mayor, and Ore Caselberg,' .Obamberlaini... flapper, Heron, McCardle, Price, Perry, andYile.—The. minutes of ' the p'reviouß meeting wore read and confirmed. ——Or. Price acolo- ; gised for the absence of Cr Feist,'—The coresponderice'waa.then read.:- • V , MASIEKTOK MAKXET, .' ! • ' Mrß. S. HawkW wrote,: receipt of resolution'of 'the;Counoil. re, his, last letter on 1 above,4ud taking if it was in the power of the Cpunqil>to lease;the school facfy for 99 years or'any-less torn to a mar? aiionld be forintd, and on; vwhat.terms;tiiey wouliTbe prepared to let ■it'fo'r suon/a puVlid'objebtrljaTing in.'Tiew, tlie'generai good'of the ttora and neighbor-, .hood*, the.oomjwny wonld have toereot i bml^ng, Mj, the JeaSe;shouli take the "form oftf liuildi nglfease, ftiih pejhaps a, projjresaiverentin'order to relieY6;the.pro-i moteW at first by a low ground rent. \ t The - Clerk, reported having replied to' the atfove' to the 'effect'iliiit t|e : Borough had no control over the school''aore. , APPLICATION FOR BDILDINO, . / 'Mr W. P. Fellingiiam wroto asking leave to oreot a lean-to with iron roof and wooden sides at the back of hit premises, —»Cr McCardle inovei that the applica-. .tiofi be ooniidered. that day fortnight, jo

that .the, applicant could comply with the by-law : in the meantime. —r-Thia was. ttot seconded,-—-Cr Price moved that b S. ■ granted- pro vidi n tt-the; applicant carried'out the'by-law. He pointed out that several other- buildings 'had- been>putup-without. thiooii wiVtiik'ingariy notice of thej#', ; fjiilfl i Mr"Mlnighani-had r endeavflred.ta..meet. the wisheftol'the' Council, aud-his applica-twn-.was to be shelved.v He-explained, thfe nature of the r 'propo'sed alterations, and strongly "supported.' the Application. Ctj Vile, iai'd .'"they .could 1 !; not: ideal with .the request 'until the' 1 - by-law" had been -complied■ with.——Or MoOavdle' pointed-out that if his resolution had beei) Adopted it would,have mei the oase. He again', moved it.'——Or Vile seconded; -4—Or Caselherg auggested. that the olfirk write to Mr Fojlingham pointing out the Course he would have to to take Thiß suggestion was adopted , i '' A COMPLAINT. i Mr J. G. Maikay, Kurupuni, complained: that though, when he took the shop ho no\v : occupied, no put six loads of gravel in front, of it at bis own expense, jfrben'forming the , footpath the.workmen removed' the' gravel elsewhere; and ; now, while other parts of the Borougli' were being attended! to, the path in front of hiß place was loft half finished. .He asked for something to be done to remedy, this.. .... ! Referred to ; the Engineer to'report upon.—Of Heron said the Engineer had referred to jt about,a fortnight ago. 310NBBKEAK1NO. . ' - ; I i Mr. Pranois Conway wrote offering to break 300 or 400 yards .of metal'(or any iess quantity)-for the Oounqil at 3s per oubio yard, .either gravel pit, or river bed boulders, or stones collected in. paddooki—' ,6d per.yard to be added for the latter,- | The Mayor'said the Council only' paid; 2s 6d per yard.——Or' Vile moved the letter be received,—Or Gapper moved :that the letter be referred to the Works bommittee.-T-Cr. MoGardle, seconded.--Carried, -v. • ■ FINANCE COMMITTEE,;. ;. The Committee recommended the fol-lowing-accounts to be paid ; , . £ s D Wages,and Contingencies- ... >3B" 211 Payton &'Co., printing, etc...; '• 1 8 0 MoEwen, blackemithing ' 215 0 F. GrHy, ;; 'do . - 110 -0; J. Toomalh,'timber... - 3 10 -'lj Smith & Hogg, advertising ... 1 018 0; J. C. Ingram ... . ... ... 0 4 6 S. Kingdon ... 1 ; ... ...10 0 ■R. H,.Chinohen, stationery .... .4 13 '6, ' Overdraft, £690 ' • ' ; : The. report was' received and adopted.j works committee, ' recommended with reference to the Fire Brigade application fori water supply in Queen-street that a pipe or totara numing be. laid to brintj water from the creek above Mr Cole's, down Cole- 1 street and Perry-Btreet to Queen-street and thence right and left to tho Waipoua river, and Renall's. creek. 'Ro dangerous goods'. That the surveyor of buildings should be instructed to'see that "the bye-laws'-relatioij to dangerous goods is enforced, also that the Cotmotl be recommended to revise the said by-laws, ' The Overaear's report was read and dealt with by the Committee as follows: —That Parker be'recommended to leave the Upper Plain metalling for a month, if he has other work to go'on with, Kepairs in . Columba road were ordered to be done, also, the -kerbinff at the corner of Ptoy-street footipath. The report stated that - he had filled iu the triangle at Kuripiioi, a larger 'ciilvert in Chapel Street, and removed the old one to Russell-street, and that as there were about, 200' yards more earth to ' be removed before tho road to Mr McEenzie's gravel pit. could be completed, lie recoilmended the earth be used for filling up the hole in Crayne-atreet, near the Kuripuni. Creeh The overseer, was instructed to use the earth as suggested, also to aerapa Sail-street and Lincoln road to the Kaiiway Station, and repair Upper Plain road, The Committee resolved that the engineer be instructed to examine and report re the Upper Plain pipe culverts. That the Council ibe recommended that the carts be knocked off for about a-month, except for urgent repairs. The committee considered a letter from Mr O. E. Bremne'r, complaining of the'disgra'oeful state, of the footpaths in front of Messrs 'McGregor's section (ode of which he occu-i pied), and asking the Council to spread some gravel there; and place a-baulk so as) to prevent tradesmen trespassing with their vehicles on the footpath reserve; which li&a made the paths in so bad a condition, The Committee recommended that the application be acceeded. to upon the usual terms as. to footpaths. ■ ■ ;■ i

' FJREIJRIGACB WATEK SUFFL7, ! '

Re the recommendation' wator down Queen-strept fpr 'Are pur-" poses.- 1 -—Cr Gapper said the'cbst.jwas; estimated at —The Mayor sai'd he' did not think the Council could afforjd it, though the Works Cn.ramitjee.werdiound to bring up d report as requested," ' was for the Ciiuncil.to say whether it wais to ibe done, and to find means to do it.L-—' Or Gapper, in answer to Cr. Price,! said the Engineer had not been asked his estimate because they could not rely upon any estimate he gave. The work would cost between £l5O to £SOO, according to: the material ÜBed. It was useless for the Council to think of doing , anything! with their present funds.-?-:—Or McCardle moved that the question stand over.— Cr Gapper seconded,-;r-Cr Perfy would like to know what was the good of paying an Pngineer when they ignored liimj? ' If Or Gapper wanted to be engineer, they had better lot him.—Or Caselberg ;said; Cr Perry was not in order. If he ,wbalii' move his suggestion as a resolution he would .support, it, The question was simply to defer the question of! water supply. .Referring.,things to committees only meant shirking matters, as there was no money to do the work when the committees reported, Either works could not be done or they must devise otherJtneahß to do them was consulted, and he said if they, dug a well somewhere near Cr'Perry's houße it would be sufficient. (Laughter,)-^—The Mayor said a well, would not' answer the purpose, —-Cr Vile said the Works Committee's recommendation-was good, but thete was.no.reason to gp on with it at once.' They had better, simply the, report——Or McCardle did not move his, resolution to shelve the question. If they could' get ways and meanß they might, carry, it out,—The resolution ihat the recommendation stand over was (hen put and oarried, . : '' ■ ■■ 1

' DANGEROUS GOODS, j The recommendation of the Committee; re dangerous goods was then considered, —Cr Gapper moved •. that that part of I tlie report be adoptedj'and that His Worship the Mayor, and Crs Caselberg, Price, the inOver be a oommittee to revise the by-law.'—r-Or Caseiberg would rather have his name left out,, aa he was interested in the question. Cr Gapper said he proposed Or Caselberg because he had been the only ono, ifOrßome time ' who acted legally,]' Mr Feist were the only two iwho had built proper places; for dangerous goods. Or McCardle said he thought it too into the.by-law buaihdsa again. It about; three^month's since they lot,", He ' hoped this time one job would" Be'''wjide f ariS '.the whole igone; through;— The motian j was put and carried, aud the rest of the report adopted as read. .' KIGHI-SOII COHTRAO.T The Inspectoi reported many.complaints against'the night-soil contractor. He attributed the neglect to the bad weather, ,bnt deemed it his duty to bring the matter under the notice of the Council.. Cr Vila moved that a notice, be sent tf)t

to the contractor to carry put ftis.epntittht in a mora puriotu&l mariner^ —nMj' Mayor said this waa ''tho firat , time any haying oarried,out filijconfraSprn^'^ery' exemplary >'m'atiner, /He thought ft)»; reaol utioti- i Jut effect an' improvement. —Or MoGardle BeSdndeA the ntotion wMeh'was earried. ;; f' WIDENING KENALLSTREET. . •: The report of Me 'oomfftittPe "appiSiiitei to consider the relative coat of the two plans for. widening the above streets was then submitted, They had obtained a report of the coat si filling in the oreek from Mr King, Count? Engineer, which showed that the cost would he by aotual. measurement, without contractor's profits or stuff for filling, 457 16s., v ., The tewn ( clerk had waited up6n Mrfeenall, yijlin|'to oarry out itie'origihal J 'and: take' £209 oash or £220 in debentures at 7 per oent,, interest to be paid" from tho date the' biiginal ,agreoment v was, proposed, the arranijejwith Mr Renall's tenants. The commiKee raiolved—That tliey would recommend'- tha Gouucil '.to offer Mr 'Eonall £2OO cash for tho 33 feet of land along his frontages in Ben all and Chapel streets; that for the present, the one 10-feet widening be 1 'carried' out iri 'Kenall-street, .'and 1 tho rights of 'toaaiioiea be'resp'eoted:;that the] sum of £2OO be borrowed from the .Bank, for the purpose of paying Mr Banall J ■ and ; that the matter should' be' settled without; delay, ; S;'/ CrOaWlberg'^he ohairman of tha : com ij mitiee)-moyed .that the recoramend&ti'jn of thd 'committee''he ad'tpied. l " CTfi'aioofc raittee had cofie into.ith©- matter .wry carefully aud foond~.it was not advisable for.the Borough, to iauDtili 'itself into an uokiiowii''iijienditure, they would, do if they adopted Mr Rtinall'a plan, and aoadriaedthogiving of a lump Bum in cash. The committee proposed to take [only ten feet' at. present, arid tne> rest of the laud could be taken when the leases of Mr Renall's tenantsM in. ißyidnpfa ing,Mr;RenallV~plan th'efrwould only get ten feet and would'have'' to undertake large and costly I 'works; ' 1 . Renatl woiild/iiot, accept the Mb, tliey oould take the land' undo'r ; tlie Public Works Act,.whioh would only cost about £looi The ■committee had :/3onp;it» dijtyt It waa.fpr tyo Oounoil to find the nyi and Price aeoonded the vesolu-; bion.- —-Cr 'Chamberlain moved -.as an' amendment .that they take'Mr Renall's offer and pay the cost pf ' (the land , under the Land Transfer' Act. s '' He cbn-i BideVed-tlmt by the time the Council had' their transfer and done the work, iti would cost, by the'oomniitteeV scheme,! .£3OO. (To take' thelo feet offered ; :by Mr ( Renall, .which would be sufficient, it; •would-not cost £l4O, and it would be' better for the Council to take that instead of half a.- chain, Caselberg pointed out that.tho,Council only intended to use', the 10 feet, and keep tte balance for future requirements. The tenants would • not' be interfered with, — 1 Cr Perry seconded tho amendment. He thought it would have been better to take Renall's offer and have something definite'. Cr Caselberg's motion mixed Chapel-street ' up with"RenaU ; etfeetj-.they ahould. have been kepi separate. The big- hole filling should not' have been brought up," Cr Vile defended the report and showed that il was desirable and proper to deal with both streets together, as it would bir cheaper,lo put both pieoea under the Apt at »nce. The committee' was satisfied that it would be b'estiq'jjiye £200! •' It would be better Mr forßenall,' and he thought he would lake 'if,' The repurt should be' .adopted,** .qoabimmiily as possible,-r r ■ Crc said, lie was! lone ,'of ; the original committee appointed to deal with' Mr fienailj 'and.-hafi' prepared an agree' meat for Mr RenalPto consider and sigh;' considered and did hot sign, as he' thought the Council' should give more, He thought,Mr Renall would always deal, fairly .'with the Council as ; loiig as he did' not stand in h<s own interests. (A laugh.) Mr Renall was not the man' to refuse the £2OO cash; Mr Renall in the interests: of ; the public would dn anything reasonable, and would rather take the .cash than bury, it iti the .ditoh. ! ;,He\ ltiieyr Gr Gapper would hesitate before advocating this course if he had not; seen it, was , the.,best. He .had every faith in the capacity of the comuiittee.—-Or Perry thought the committee were' trying ,al(. they, could; to 'shelya the widening of Benail-st, It jvas decided to get tenders and do the work;and he did not see why this should.not be ! done; as the resolution was not rescitt-' tied; -'-Cf Gapper Explained the reason for ; moving that Mr'Renall should be, written to;'' The cost .of*filling in; t(ie creek would bel£loo or and Traoefer Act. faea from; £SO to £76., Taking, the fact into 1 consideration' that these costs estimates, the Committee thought it better to give a defiuite price; iThey had recommendod the best.oourieratheir nower. fur the good of the burgesses. The Mayor gaid his sympathies |?ent jwith. the report, and heLhoped adopted, It would bring the question of' ways aud means mora powerfully iri the Council, He did not think it would be 'fair to spend £4OO on this one job when there was such an amount of '-work required in other parts of, the bor<iugh. ! Cr Chamberlain askod what position, they would be in if Mr Renall rofused ; the £2OOI It would ,be fetter.. to ; takjrMr. Renall's offer.—Cr Caselberg, in reply, said the Committee had drawn up,,th.e, 'report at the request of,'.the.Council,' Was it not better to take the 33 feet instead of 10 feet for the same price? If Mr Renall would not take the offer, they,could take' the land. under the Public Works Act, and arbitrators w/mld not. value the land at more than £IOO for the lot, as, tile proposed works would enhance the value of the remainder.—Or Chamberlain' asked if the Oounqil-was aware, thatMr Renall still expected them to put his land in Renall-st. under the Act, as agreed?——' Cr MoOardle The amendment. was then ptit ,ajid declared lost on the voices. Noes ; Crs Price, Caselberg, MoGardle, Gapper, Vile, and .the Mayor. Ayes : Crs. Heron,' Chamberlain, : and Perry.:—The original tnotion was then puVand carriedl—-Or Chamberlain' said- that' now thii waff carried he hoped the Council would call .for' tenders, as. the resolution wasj still ,on- the. book.—Cr McCardle:: Hear J Hear 11 '/ /'■' ■■ '• ■■ > Mli RENALL'S APPLICATION';

• Thp application of kr itenall for refund of impounding fees was considered,' —-Cr Gapper said the claim had arisen through theiv engineer ordering Mr ;; Ren- ; all's fencer 'to, his cattle gpi were impounded. He moved that 't|ej 'matter be investigated; arid' 'if'the Engineer' was in fault the amount he. refunded and stopped out of his ,salary.——The motion 'was. not , "Perry moved' 1 that -j RenflrbeTgiyen. notice-t(i -erect hisifence in J . OhapeP' street;'^-—Or Chamberlain j Beoonded.^ —(-Things .atljtble raued, g ,L to ; ' ; :Cr Gapper's proposition, and others.,,to, Cr. Perry's.)-—Cr MoOardle rose; wd- tSe, Mayor asked him if he.was going to BpoaJc" to the question. Cr McCardle;! took ception to thß query, and a short passage on the point of order took' place between them.—Or Gapjir said Or Parry's motion was .not' iii "order as-thi question had not. been settled.——The Mayor said the question had seconder was found for Or Gappel's' motion,. Cr Perry was therefore; in order in moving a fresh question,--Or Gapper then moved as an amendment : on Or Perry's motion, .ihat-Mr Renall's request be aoceeded to, ,r^—Cr, Price seconded,-—Or Heton

,was.' in s f«nifr-sC paselberg said it; a'eemed.to himlike a stprm in a teapot. ."JKfayfiTrfj rd!»;- not : should vote against resolulibn. and.the aniendment.—Or Vila.agreed'with- Cr MpOardle. He pointed out that it would be' uafair.To a?t to ofioo, whioifw'ould he'in' the'middle';of'ihe road s if ;their negotiation with him'.was success. ful, as he would then have to remnro and reUrect'it'i——CriEerry's -resolution was tl{en T and'the application re'-, ferred to the engineer on the motion, of C,r McCardle. '- '• v - ; " j COLE-STREET FLOOD, j Cr Gapper 'asked leave for the ; overseer to be"authorised'to'move the.;oulvert ; in Cole-street, so that, he oould clean it* out which he could not 'do at'.pr'e's'ent. 1 ,', Since lijst night's' the street was fluoded thrnugh'the water not having an outlet, -j—The Mayor 'said the, oulvert was .not large enough and they had better put ia a larger o'no: ■/;> ;ii- ' ■ : RE3OLTED... i Cr Heron moved that the Cole-street culvert be by Or MoOai'dle and carried... • - ■. ~ ■ . i RENALL-STSEET ODIYERTB. ; ! Cr Gapper called attention to the Renall-street flood, caused.by insufficient: culvert?, too'small culverts, or; o ho ka d up culverts, , He saw aome one in a letter had said tliat-£6o.had ibjen -thrown away in these .earthen pipes, but.life held it had Wit been thrown away... * The' pipes'could be'UßQd m other; parts of the fot Iworki'fer whigV tHey r w l ri]iiid ! be suitable, jit was imperative,'nbweve'r,'that somejthing should be'done in'the matter. He | would-prefer that large totara oulverti ' should lie pat'in .' He hoped the 'Council i would JnsWuot ithe Works Committee to do-the work.4 buM.—T-Cr Chamberlain said they could net do much good till the water subsided.—? The engineer's report on:the co&t; was. handed; in.. • It recommended four oulverta to be taken up and new one's put in, and a drain dug from the-lower oulvert to the second and giving cost of the: work. Heron | ' ridiculed the engineer's estimate. The J work wbiild' cost - twice <as much;—- Or !i . Chambeiiain said the drain proposed | could not be dug.'-—Cr Gapper movedji [ that the new.culverts be done at once,—- | Or lieron seoonded. ——Or Vile aslted tlie; 1 mover to consider whether, it was desira-: ble, as they had had the heaviost rain they were likely to have for some time,;, and it : s seemed .like throwing away the .money.—-r-The motion was oarried. , : • FIHANOE, , . ■: ! " The Mayor called the attention of the Council to the state ef their finances, and moved that they go into cofnmittee of the Whole to oonsidor the question of ways and means.—Or Caselberg seconded,- and referred to the system of the Council in ' referring various works to oommittees, which only meant that works were driven off till the winter brought forth their shortcomings.. There was now £1368 wanted for works -authorised to be done in the current year, and to-night, it had .YeeOfiown that works amounting to , nearly £7OO more required urgently to be . done,: There was also £7O wanted to purchase Mra .MoKenzio's graver pit, and" .they had an overdraft already of nearly ' 300, making a total of over £2OOO, with" £6OO already to the; bad. ;v They had before them a list of streets required to !< be "dbne: ' People on'theni paid rates and grumbled that their roads were not iconstru'eted, and they had no return for their maney. There ware 6G2 chains of chain streets to be made, 104 chains of three-quarter-oliain street, and 411 flhsin of half-chain streets, or 16 miles of nail in. all. They were full of wants, and the question now was how were they'.to meet these wants ? He thought, he had shown that there waa any amount of matter to warrant the Council going into committee. ——The Council then went iu committee of the. whole.—Or MoOardle said though having a leaning to a loan to relieve their pressing necessities hn thought' they were not prepared to; settle the; question that 'evening; He thought-it would be as well to appoint a committee—the Works Committed, would be the best. They had to decide which' streets were really neces-sary.'-—Cr Gapper should' almost havo thought. Oi; McCardlo's experience as a .Councillor would tell him that,' without any further. investigation, £4965 was wanted for roads which were absolutely 'necessary.., If they asked, for a loan they must all swim in the same boat. If they floated a loan it would have to be spent in 'all portions of the Borough. . They could ; hot pick out- any particular work. They could, by a 'small loan, make the roads s .nrgently required, and do other works, but if they only spent a loan where ;now raqiiire'd places must- be left till not be fair, He would like to see all the streets 'made, but Was it necessary to , make them all ? He would also like to see £3OO spent for the Firo-Brigade wator supply. He thought that: body well worthy of support, and the expenditure ; would reduce the'cost of insurance, The centre would not require' moiiey expended • on jt fovrpad condtructiori;*and this 1300 or some other amount could in fairness be used for;: Fire Brigade purposes,— Cr McCardle thought it would be de.sirable to go in for a loan to make all the streets at the same time as they would not have money afterwards for new Works. —Cj Gapper (Hear I Hear I) —Or Vile ' .thought the first question .was whether a loan was required. His opinion was that one waß emphatically required. The roads were 'in an abominable state. Oom- , .plaints,oame,in from every direction, If they waited,' expecting to get the roads . made; out of ordinary revenue,' they would never be made with present rates. t They oould go in for a.loan without making their rates any heavier than now. They could get £SOOO wifchoutasking more rates... He could show that jn this wayHalf of the present rates would be sufficient for maintenance, and the other half would be ample for interest and.sinking • fund, r The sinking fund . 'would be £250 and the -interest something'less. Ratepayers would not be in any worse position so far as rates were concerned, and in an infinitely better one as far as their streets and /footpaths.' 1 wehti t Everyone' Would reap the "advantage.'- It might be said ; ithat he was only trying, to hoodwink the ratepayers, but what he had stated was his true impression', and it was his opinion that U ..was ..nacessary,. and proper lot' the; Council to raise a loan!——Or Caßelberg' said they,had. : be.en ; ,led by ; petitions and complaints to do and promise works which 'tfiey Were not iri^a douritil atlast the .inevitable, had ;,If.ratepayers requirod the works done which were asked for/theymusthiive a loan, and if'.they, wished" a'loan' it ; was-'the: duty of the Connoil to carry oat their wishes. But if jWo'uld'not' oo'n'sent, they could not , hav e-the" !v?brka 1 'th T required. " The' could not : Bpend';£lvif. they only ■had ten r ;shillings'. "The' question was whelh'er theirtwbrks were to be .in. 25.yeftrs'or iff four years ? .• fle 'BKoiiid ttdlps. thjtj Jiiew him knew that'before he;made,up ; mind tb';vote : for it was It: would : draw money out of his pooket to a large fixtent,if -extra rates' were required, and he wouidnot be mnch bonofited as his interests were in.the centre, but he considered other ratepayers who had no roads, and were hot likely to get ' them without a loan, ' He thought the

raajoriky^6fv(He> OolUn6J i.werejri favor; ' resolution affirming the deairabillty^ of obtaining one. ; All the Con'noilhad to do waß^morely:to.lako.the,prel|aiinaryßt«p—---to affirm the prtiioipl^"and" to state that if the-ratepayers. want work done, they must .Qoandl'' affirm (he : loan tlieu they must apDoiiira'comtnittee ; .|o|aioertain the attiSpr a 'sojiediija of wofkijCtfianipjaflß ■' -before th'e)publio',and .take • thejf'vojcn. Whether the proposal. was adopted pr.»n", the'Gounoil ;dqne;vi(B duty,' He. iftftid,;'sT|iat>in. the .opinion of this 1 ' the time has amvethwheii a foaft « in' neoessary." Or Heron seoonded the resolution, and stated that he had ..changed his mind during the -last six ; month» as to borrowing for bordughworks,' and if anyone, seized six mouths ou the work? irimmit'te.e would also alter his mind, although strongly agiink' 1 it when he took office. -7—His Worship thoroughly agreed with dr 'fleron.—Cr Perry said all they wantedwas a good engineer to look after the /Works .OomtniUee,-Cr Gapp'er said the'oomfoittee tfotild befonly}tqo''glad to resign in favor of a good engineer.' The present Overdraft was JS6OO, works to he: done.at once amounted to about another £4OO, their ing m about £6O, and there'were always fresh applications for work, and yet some councillors objected to a loan. ,- Let them •ay what' their objeotioaswere. (Hear.)— Cr Heron, though in favor of a loan, oonld, not see that the present Is rate wtiiild'be sufficient.—-Cr Caselberg; said he could convince Cr Heron that it would'be suffi-cient,-—CrMoCardle 1 said'he'had .also gone into figires and was satisfied-the Is rate, would;be sufficient. The Mayor •said he'would'like to - hear" all the oan*oillora express their opinion and then iadjourn for a week, to'a'special "meeting.: iHe bad formerly objected 'to 1 a loan, but : he agreed with Cr H<; on. that the Works Committee could no o irry out the works required if theyhad.uot money. to. do so, and ..that they could not 'do the works constaiitly asked for" withouta Joan;— — Or Price said he was going, to move' an amendment. He had formerly been against a loan, but r aftsr l goiiig.vthrough the various streets and seeing what was required, he had been compelled to alter his views, and he now saw.that.a loan was i Mayor.said ! if,the rate- ' payers would not sanction a loan, they : must sanction a special rate.——Cr Gap- ; per said it was to avoid a loan that his subsidy Bystem \fas carried. This, how'ever, was found not to work fairly,"' and if a loan was not "sanctioned they- would be obliged (o> rest ion , their oars and ' limply slide: along.—-rCr/Price, moved the adjournment of the debatVfora week. | —Or Chamberlain seconded. -—Cr Vile could not see what good could be gained. It seemed to him that the Council were prepared to agree to go in for a loan. What was the use of adjourn-., ing], First settle the principle, and then appoint a 6»mmitiee .to'.oonsider details. ——Cr Caselberg would not accept an adjournment, though he -was sorry to differ from Cr Price. They simply desired to affirm, the desirability of a loan. It reßted with the ratepayers to oarry it'i into effeot. He would agree to Cr Price's] motion if he moved it afterwards to the • effeot that they have, "another meeting to farther ductus details',-—The amendment was thefrpiH arid lost, and'the resolution put aud carried, Cr Perry votiiig against.—Cr Caselberg would now move Cr 'Price's amendment as a resolution, that the Council adjourn till that night week to further consider matters relating to the loan.—Seconded by. Cr, flapper and carried. The proceedings of the committee were then confirmed,/, ' 'STREET LAMPS. ; .... ; A ootnmitCee consisting of Crs Clapper, Vile, and Perry wbs appointed to report on the question of lighting the streets. The Council then adjourned. -