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PARLIAMENTRY.

j; UNITED FREBS' AB3OCIATIOK,

.; In the, House yeatsrday, the Loan Bill chad the Main Trunk North Island Bailway. Bill were received by message from the Governor, and on the motion for going iiito supply, Mr Smith moyed an amendment that as the ten /per cent reduotion made for the purpose /of temporary retrenoh.menion the;salariesof Civil Servants;had; : been restored, inthe.opinipp of the House, .the same advantage should be extended to platelayers and all otner wages men am.;, ployed by the Government on railways and

ibther. publ|c faring reoeiyed fflniilar feddbtiona in their wans whiohhas \k en if^r'#s'.' ':■:.:.:*■■; £,s;;& 'mm been' restored. Is said the de'puta-:. for Publio AVorks to raifle^the, scale of wages 6d|pe'r ua?{'aoc("th v is: consideration had been pro-' m'ised,'when'the Minister afterwards stated in-the Bouse that the Goyernmenfcdid not seeiheir way clear to grant the request. He thought the meD-weref^ inorease.asked; and..unless jihwas 'granted the Government would not be able to keep good trustworthy, men in the service. Sheptord. wdonded.the.motion.: ;;: ■'!■.

'The Minister forvKnblio,;'Worka said the Government could .not accept the amend, meht,; '■ It-was really a vote of censure on the Goyernm.enti expressing an.ppinion that the Government would not:deal fairly ; with-' its servants unless under pressure from the House.. If theßouse thought so they should' turn the Government out. The Government would not submit to having details of administration diqtated'hj'theHonsei He would not'-goktoithe meritsof tbev-oasejat all The Government had-censidered'them, but on thefece of tie motion he would not state thodecisioh.arrived at.:'.';•' '.i.-.!.? :V.' :,'/'.. Messrs Moss, Duncan', Weston, and (japtfju McKenrie/considered the men were en* titledtpthe. increase -askedfor, and''re, gretted the atiitude taken, by the Government. The caso'should hftvebsan'deslt with on itsown merits,'••' ":

Sir John Ham, denied- that a uniform reduction, of ten. per cent, had .beta made. Wages had .only been equalised, and a scale adopted. .Men, were - now receiving the same wages as in 1879. [, Wages had' risen sinoe and he believed the m§n entitled to the inwease, asked, but the amendment was premature and should be withdrawn and tlie matter left. to'Gpvern'rnehi

SirQeprge Qbey said the question was one of justice and he hoped the House would not be frightened at. the attitude of the.Geverninent, .• ■ > >.■•.=■.». ,;-

Mr Maoasmbw . supported, the amendmept'on thei.merila; '■• •, ■':;■< ',■

Major Atkinson sympathised with the men concerned, but the' Gbvtrh'menl'' could not accept an ameudineht in any other way than thoy had done. •■ :■ ' :

Mr MoNWOMBRr' said that. motions of this kind were accepted' in' the- House of Commons, and(he']jqve'mment had accented MrSaunderi.inotioi)..to...ii)ak'e reduction, . -..- ■■.

: Mr Fjbh said the G )veruinen|, in atteiflp. 'ting to burke the discussion had acted in a manner to disgust independent rnembe'rs. The Goyemmpni was a broad oloth one having no sympalliy with workup men, and no desire |o do i|s servant* justice, exceptundgr pressure,

Messrg: J?#»n and M. W. Green ted the amendment, '■' " : Mr Evans Brown sympathised with the men, but. thought the matter should be left to Government. . ~

Messrs Ivess, Joyce, Levastam and Holmes supported the amendment.

Mr Sdjton understood the' Government intended fo raise wa/jes, and jt s()qujd be left to them,'

Mr Hitrsthouse thought the men were entitled to aa inorea'sp, but as the question had been made a patty one he advised Mr iSmit)} w'thdriw the aiijeridment. ' Mr . ''«s<=<} fy Bnd;thougl)tthe men.in Government employ were quite us w§ll .paid-aj -thjjse qutside it. ; this iriew and defended she ,'abtlon of the Goyenment, , Mr Wbiohx would have supported the amendment at 'all risks unless convinced that the Government would do justice to the men, .-■ '/' ..',' . ...

: ; Messrs ;Pheelian, ; „Bragkeni Hutchison, jHarris, and'. Barron supported the amend, ment, and condemned- the 'course taken by the Government, •' ' MtXevin defended the Government.

. Mr 'fcftffluw fg! drjvgn f q suppgrt the Government because jj3 oould flnd iiq qtljer' leadejs in the House,". He sympathised witb MrrSmith's object,; but oould not; support such .inference with executive duties, . Messrs ■ WHIW and Smwi urged'the .withdrawal of the jmjjwjmgni as the. question had been made aparty. op, ' '■'• Messrs A.wn»wt and .TRiMqwg-sup. ported the Government, ,>, .v.'. : : .•., ■.•■••

i iaif that -when Government had an; qpp'drtumty of testing; its strength with the hadnotdoae so. He could not submit to' the action of the Government,and ,had'; deserted'it, "and ni proud to say■"so.'.-'The-'Hodße was held upto oontempt : and'ridi6ale by ajl the newspapers of the colony,'and thfl.:Qov«rnment was rejsbnhsiblefor;its'^ctiou,' Sirid ! {ho sooner-a : vote ofnb-.confidence was proposed and carried; and'new men'pked'ou'the Government benches,, thebetter,

Hon.% Weaker condemned the action of the Opposition,'■.'' Mf'HffßST begged {he'' G/overnin>nt to allow the question to go on tija'vqices, , Mr Tb(.m?squ (Clutha) "qai4 tUe Govern! bent was responsible for. jhe;disorganisation of the= House ; and : delay of;business'aid waste of time, , "•.

! Mf Mobbis said'tho.Government side wished a no-confidehoe motion to be brought on and decided biie'way.or,the other, and the business gone on with as to wages of 'railway employees. If there were plenty of applicants be did'not see why the pay should be increased unjesii the Gflyepwent wished to do 80,

Mr Hobbs said the delay in ; business wu caused by the disorganised, state; of the Opposition, ... ~;,■/ .:■':■■

.Messrs Levastam and Holmes spoke against the Government. ~; .

, Mr Smith' said he did 'not look'on'the a, party one.., Hj) onlyjießired a jmblio ejpr;esßiQq.,;ffoij|: ty. Mini|(es.,,ot PabHc Works, .He.had.oareiully avoided making this a party question, Ha had the interest of the pooKworkirigimen, 'whom he knew, and at heart, who Were'not receiving pay sufficient to Bupport-their families, He believed 'the debate'had dbrie'gqba in-getting an|xprjsßioi(>f|pimon these.mien had,a grievance;.. l He,thanked me mb?rsfor ( the good-natared manner In, tSqnesliioJ™ 1£0; : Hon", Ji;:BSiOEr.Baidi* in.nsking leave to wijhdr»ffhi«i'amendment; thai Mr Smith' 'had

given practical Government. haV* volll for it irad'hefpaten. v |r opposition mewnot Yote-forifT ■

The motion that the debate be adjourned 'WMnepiveliW^

The original motion to go into Bupply wsb carried ..

In Committee,,the-mption.,tp.report prp : gross was made v favorvof" Dividend—Ayes 19, Noes 42. '■"" , '[ The motion for reporting -progress iwaV

The estimates 'were then considered s : Class 2—Colonial Secretary £24,884. ' MrDuNOAN moved that'the item £16,000

for repairs to dips; and'expehses' i of 'woik- T ing cattle, rabbits,.sheep,' and .Brand Act and contingencies, be re'duo'edby £12,000. .i Mr FbldWick proposed that the item £2400 for six chief inspectors' be' re'dulc'd : by£2oo. " '"'; ■■'" " : ■:'■■"■ The question was put that the item £2406 ' be reduced £2OO A) es 13, Noes 27. ' ' The motion to reduce other items'was lost. ' '■'['■''::' ;;!'.''i. ; ,:.;'•"■:■"' -;•', "iy;:, • Progress' was' reported, and the 'tiouse adjourned'at7.2oa.in. '•' : ■''■''

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Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume 4, Issue 1134, 25 July 1882, Page 2

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PARLIAMENTRY. Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume 4, Issue 1134, 25 July 1882, Page 2

PARLIAMENTRY. Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume 4, Issue 1134, 25 July 1882, Page 2

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