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Wairarapa Daily Times, Volume 4, Issue 1133, 24 July 1882, Page 2

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i n Langdon Hill, the third olaiiiijn ; an'aurtforo^s.reef^r|g en and-iff a different reef from auy of theAthers, Showing that there, are several .oil ;the hill. brought to butj't g.weagoodMOa[jeot wheXcnHbr^jf tJ>.£? />oiraq*» : o' 5

; i <i' f' '] 1-);f -i\ .'.-!' '■ '.'.'"ffiWr &, i-X'ij t'.iL f ■ :\ : h o »jVjv«i* -(!BAMJLtnfHAiithiß-dftyi" ; :. A distressing.fatal accident occnrredat about eight o'oloctyesterday.morm'nE. Mr beargua Fergusson, ; fellej; •„ lqathe-CoWal .Biik„and.Mr Robert King.of thtf N^tiottat wiioh'• was-flooded with show water/t They swam aflrofly;iah^ok4Wre^rn tl kw'gww v; ... .... KirfAjtl it) injii'-) 'j.if.it j 11 seized with_ crimp an^a^he^^bejbajjlt) witfgreaM with Him in mid again,- Ferguason-is nmrrleQ. fliß father IB a olergyman of Glasgow,'.. '•••'.•• J-jio'JT SKO" ■.TffSKKP&F HOI3*rM(Ii. GranU Tempera^ burned believed to have originrtedfoithft]i^ nnknown^fThebaiMni^rwi^tW^wliolf insured for £2soin : S2jSO in thopsrWUMon^ l^lui^llii^tipMloaß Wr -:,:^A' :: : \.^ii;: ;

i ; fWfwW^ MBET ' tofrVriisi^P l Faßtoml Carterton, ooSaturdaylast. . ~. attendance; whioli Was very Buchanan P. F. fanored, H; Tanorcd, S Tanored, /Oannatt^E : % R- & Sn p 0 Bid to W. ,-E. Bidwill, • BraitliwSte, ; Wefoßr Hitohingß, J, o.,Vftllance. BopttoWppdi'' JO»talroj|&Jir^ the ■meeting' wassailed for 11 a.m., the did hpt commerioe itiirpgon,--- ■ 'The' minnt.M ( 'of..thjj^|bn^general .'meeting were, read VtwoowrmecD. '?•'- ? " ?i 5 iug had better take the-fiaaitoiaTqi^eati'm ~inioj.;opnaidej^i»n; jti the.:Brut -ipstaiysii. - The members »f |H'e ooi^mitt^p.^ppfeiVrjili •to ; re'port on the'reduction pifhe debe'ii-i tu'rea lived.so^wijelyiapart;that they had been 1 a! (Mij&li&ee}ij}gj; They had, however, ascertained that the; £6OO now in mortgage atSipercent'could' he-'re- hm rowed ; at ; 7 per. pec t. t(i, .tH nt the committee were" msny-otihe holders of tfie'm.r'were per* fectlyfilling : to,,pupifeqd^ettthou» for th& henefit'bfthe gobfetj,'- At the B.amd|ime'. he veoogriised ihut. 601110 holder^^ji'o'had] taken up dejjontuies as an investment couljd not ba.'expeoted t'bTgiveithfcm td.thai .Society. .'At;tbesame time aße'd4dHtiot'doub't ftheir c Society. The" question WMfrfirttj'rhW. much of. theMt. could, be extinguished, and" secondly,' wTi'eth'e q rtSe*£^'b^i:bw6 i d i on mortgage-should rate of interest.^.Jlpme.meinbers^hVvight 1 that with a gross debt of il',2ootheywere' in a very. badlßQ?it!qor-,bTitrjie,,judging, from the experience of SaoUtiea/ ha.d i never'hßldithis.opinifln l , ip;pe, terbiiry Society, which was nqw.the most 'flour'ishihg'one'f iS I he ofy6ny,'wa6 : f6rmerly* iu a ■ similar .poaitiori- ■ • .Sqre)yj'-a..larpel I district.Jike the to be able (0 "ptif thfe f undFdf oA-a: E salisfaotory „..- f , f l '_~— Mr W. Bo(ith l said that it was 1 practically/ useless ,|o shift i tjieir burthenjirpra, one ahou anotKer, l what tbe'y >iequirsd was to reduce it. He was willing himself to make the SocietyK'p^eaejiitj.of I £60.0r £7O, "ma'oVl to wipe off the.whoJopf the lOtfJ.^bjntij'rear I Seeiqjj the betier position they were now in it was IFe'leaik'i.theycbulddo to auiih them.' ifle? hpped the inieetuig wopld not separate; without' iaKipS cftepa<. to raise this sum. The promises already giviu amounted to £2OO. ■.. ' r~}~ Tr r< fo.W.H. Beetham said tliat.lijslfirmj were among those who were •prepared! to forego, their claim" oii'deheiitures, at the same time he agreed;with the President that th'ise ; \yho had ijierely.takeiv.Uß. deVenture's as'an'inVeßtihe'ntshould'.iiotV. expected to relinquish them..; The President read ''which' had been issued to the debenture holders; W Order to opportunity of T j joiaifigin jng'them for v the benefit-of the;Spcietyr I Pour holders had replied, declining' tV ' surrendeV'.tlieuJ'deben'tuFe's! ■ \ T \ -,,. ( ,| Mr BennetV'said fhaVhe' 'unfierafcoid 1 from Mr Booth thii;nisoffer' fell to*the l ! ground unless the 7 of wa?.. i raised. He thought there' wasVgreat ■ doubt about raising (be entire sum," i ~"' Mr ,?;;&; Beetham said.the more :j ust j way would be"to let the b'u"rtbTe.ii':faU'-Vpn< the society as a whole, but ns'usVaj-he , expected the willing horses would'-have- : to bear the main share.of the '•b'rfrlhefc ■. The faiiest plan-would'be.to njalle'tf&jl through.outjthe district, rhv, : '";. ; a The' President 1 the pVmanent_chargeß_ori_tbfijQ9iet3t,.b*d_. orippled„tha prizes offered,.and )hough' the 'monepalpVbf an award was' iibi its only :: ""o6pairtSfitH»ii^ r ypt"** Kb'■i'rrize liaf'of; par.-with those id' other districts. '"''":£•.■ -..', ' Mr Booth thought that the'swhele 1 burthen of the reduction of dqbt.'Bhould not fall on the few whVcanie'tn the help of the Socie/y by taking up debeniurusf: The President called atieqiiuiir.tpi.tho fact that the proposal of the Oonjihittee. was merely a recommeridatiqn-.yi-. o MrS, Tailored usk6d>he o'xabt nrimVr! of members of the Society. w ... .;... The Secretary replied that 'there 1 we're* about and with honorary' members; ahout onej hjin,dred and forty-five, '•" ■ '■■■• I-'- ■:,■''.. MriStuokev; thought the offerjpiade by. several debenture-holders sWtild''be .'a great stimulus to'the S,ij,ciety to.wipo; off: the L6oo.' ! Heihetefdre moved .that .a. committee be appointed to raise subscriptions for.tktipurpose. \. : - ■ Mr S. Tancred suggested loading.all;raembers three pounds per' head for one year to make up the deficit;'. ■MrN...Grace thought this suggestion would deprive them, of many, members who could afford to pay one pound annually, but could not' be'"expected to. pay three. Mr W. H. Beetham snid it Beamed to., him an open question whether; it was. desirable to'wipe out the debt;in,ona year. He suguested aßking K debentpreji holders to forego their interest and forming gradually a sinking fund to reduce the debt. . :, The President said the position of the Society last Show wai that only LdCj.was available for prizes. If a sinking.fund were providod it would either be'a very ; small sum, or it would reduce their' prize-money. He thought it would be a fairer plan to invite subscriptions from non-debenture-holders, It would be a mistake to fix ,any arbitmi'jr" itihi' for members] contributions. Mr N. v G?3ce r sec"nde"d s Mr ! SMokey's resolution for opening• a. subaoriptipn list and appointing a'• committee -to I canvass.

Mr Booth Gaid there tieerafiiHW/bea ' feeling that some pressure had been exercised in the matter of debentures, and.it would be better to withdraw, the proposal (Hear, heart, and tjo in for an open list. He .would put his name down for LSO to suoh a list. ' «■■•••' v , The President, speaking for himself, laaidit was immaterial whether he eave i up his debentures or put his name for a similar amount to b subscription list... Mr W. E.' Bidwill advocated >Mr Beetham'a suggestion for the debenture holders to forego their interest for.one year. • '■'.'.: .',... • ; Mr Matthews said he should.'opppsT incroasingf'^he: anwunUof' member subscripfio^8 i( the amount of his[debenture to an open! list. „ . • "■• ■ .P'rnohnnv.i i)ru >¥riJlifwS.»-Beethamrßropoßfld-aßiaa... amendment that subscriptions be invited' to increase-; the 'funds: of the Society;' initead-if *ipTng off the ie&.l .'d Vmall--BinWpg( t 'fnnd;r,TTonldj>; in\ jni&pjinjon, suffice. It further into debt "for peratnenTirhproyementi,. TJieyjiughl Jajm in a poaition. to give sublkhliatprizeß and to.raise money for the same .objeot. It was unreasonable W expect.the Sioiety-.to' wipe oßf (£6OO fa one year..: '*".&?: _• ' '■■■■.■.: ■'•"'■■ .<H: ; ip#€fft.rest tewM e Mw!f%fSg Ottl.thia inouinbrance. .%sc;s#t^

|he prize list hitherto bad been sufficient in many classes, biit'Wra induc«ment tor enoouwging Exhibition of implements would bo an advantage. Mr W. Booth pointed out that the proposal to forego interest would not avail much as the principal holder, had alreadv adopted it m practice. It had been a dilhoult matter to-work the Sooiety unto its present position. They had already b r could th> prfiaSntlierel. It pu a herefore.be wise, to ihorease theiir 0 #'' to wipe off ; ; .The Presidentloupt that they should TO«sarate without' talking a.strong immediate effort: be not ieia than £6OO ' rMJ' JBeetliam said it apbeared to him .\Wm ''Booth 1 expeotedfb raise »o;ilir i hi fi h W'OTw4) M W %oh m, K»t well be spread over s'ewraiyeari. true auementa. they would be relieved;for interest, .vss\l? %"$' >,' was .uiiwiiojto try Wifolaithb) ito&4& mm m. m effeo' wo-ild he to curtail the ordinary subsonptionß. • ■.;.■■■■><. his raßQla. lampunj. tp ; be, wiped off, ' - Mr Stuektys resolution having been he/moved that .tf oomtatUee Wsiatirijr'of-Mes/r* Booth, JBUflbanin, % H. Beethara, H. H. Beethara, G. Beetham,.A. Matthews, J. iDru'm'mphd; 'N;!Qra'ce,Y'W- : Bidwill, W. Hogg, Maokay, HawWffs;BfaiihwMie^M < fcD3a f gal,--H.' ! M<saSi tef/'F: Stuckey, LB»in, Snod." a,nd R. .B, Armstrong 'be lor ißubso>iptipn«.with-poffe'r-toadd to their '"!;';V, ~-: ■ 'Mr'Payton"expressed his opinion that i*j'ffiffim&tj»..-ofjh^fc^dpzeh:'. .members would be muoh more effiolent. "(iTh6:apppitftment?o'{ thelbmmittee mi carried. -■ ■ -.

Messrs F. .H.-*Wood;' Brooks, and "BartattrwaMdwthe ouMfifc ai'lk depu>' IS'T -ft ',%'., W?* Horticultonl TftiHOn*-,, -

~Mr Wood .explained that the Sooiety ground, and that the assistance thoy were >o|e sxiqus tyw from the Sooietywaa for exhibits, _Shey w~ere t o£tb*^ show would popukrise'tfe' general thoW -by-rrttractitig- ladies -and- other visitoriio thejgroundß,v-: :rrr f ; j jTheTffljidflnt ; thoughj ..the deputation woula be satisfied with on assurance {that % Snooty would endeavor to' meet tjiejr yiews, The question would pave to he .relegated to the show committee 1 . In Canterbury the Horticultural Shew Fas-held in a large tent whioh wasjpro. 'he tiorfr /uftur'»r^biiii}B. l Y.:i;i'']/.:[!r j s rr Mr,F.£[, V(oi;d said they did not desire to iuake the showa Greytown one, .of a Wairarapa character which would D 9 open to-all patt»,6f the.diatriot. j * { Tho President said" he r felt sure thalthe" .societywouldbegladimpossible to raeSt their wishes. . . 4* || Mr BrbpV, qdde* that TthTGfdytown 'oommittee"' did v hot 1 desire 'any-special privileges! in-' connedtiotf with the eliovr theyi proposed to/hold,* J 1 'Thedeputation'then thanked the meet iflfrfor their courteous reception and wilhdrewU rir r!\:oJ £ i STOCK, | 3

—Mr H. H, Bunny said he had already »88pciatedfhi» name with the propcaal to olaimify, pure-bred stools; aud he would moxe;asv9 i reeolation-:that *tk-.class' 6f short-horn* he dividedin'to' two, the 'firsl .forj>ur*Jir£d_shprtJiornß,_«)i the second forgrade-cattle. To retajn one class opej} to all r cnhier«%ould ment'xjf theirbr'deds;'■ It had beet'u'rge'd that there wastoo loftTdlsf iii? tion such as tbi rine Dropoaed;;' : poifitfiil .oi|t,that.thu Walrarapa whs far more backward than N> i ' in- Cantfv-hii'v with its stock,-ihlth.^l.-, Ur,;,„ | laVfla «j><pl ; 'rr|nj{eiiirtj(..t-;-.iiiß H i l | l | B position, The other objection of the few'nessof entries ffoujdvhefelt sure' be remedied by the whioh- would arise from ; thd'i|uljd | iyißion.t .""" •. J Mr to pure-bred cattle beini? shewn; with" oroas-brads. fie thought a]l. made up their'>inds. how 'thej would, vote/\ahd that, it was-iot ' necessary to disouss the question atlength. ;.f he pjass. for grade ;cattle ; would douaway 'with the present class-for ■cattle of'any f- : fi '■•'■ '".■

-—Mr H. H. Jaokson thought it was nothiiip but; fai*' that.Hhb ■ pure-bred oattle .should to thoroughly separated from the fiwde l oattWj ; »ttd-f6lly.obhbutred with the resolution. He believed :ih_ the grade cattle armuch'aii'he didiiri the* pure-bred, but he thought that thb'seWjo had been to the expWsV'of l.e proteoted, jThey all know that pure-bred cattle- weW-'riot for t instance the best milkers, ,Qr.;rnost profitable, stock for farmers,-; " '.}':■■■'■'■'.■"■■■ ' r . : ' : '' ' '""''

' r ltfr;y;, : & r ,-BidwJl r ,considered it was unnecessary to alter tlie'ihofpr'esent class .ani.tha'tf:the;, l thln|j, : Bt)nldJr(d its own level. A second-class was unnecessary, bec»use:as. ,a'iriulef j!w.sp.ur?ibwd stock would heat the half-bred.

Mr that at Obriitehuroh all the cattle entered in the sbort-horn'.classej'Vere.'poretbfed. The .cross-bred cattle might by the faalt of the judges bdAt' pure-bred aqd they ought to prevent this as far as possible. If there was a'fe'elmiJ.that {hew should'be two or ... 'Meolassesofqattlflijffould.be well to £ meeMfc''with ! a-view"''df ; ke'6pin?Bp pure" strains.

1 YTfieTPreildßitf thonghl' ; that in a ques. tipiifliie se.nresent ( iUas important to know what.'was'done in parallel oases, He therefore made inquiriasin different ' 'directibha'J and ascertained from Mr Pete ofWanganni.fromMr J. N. Williams of Canterbury Pastoral Association, from Mr JoieplnPagß.'frrim Mr Brydone" of Otago, and other well-known au horitios, that proposal "wW fortigtfi'to' their experience, t Id the case of the Royal Agricoltilral'Sbci^infin^lla, «o maoh competition could he.soeu*& th.t"a sub division mightWMelV/', there eaohanimil nrerjt nd and the prize foil tihi''A%\sti' by™jigree, Tbrdughoflt (bV'colonies it was .owwal maW hi/riWw'produce a pedigree *t«show tound. Take >ih»Bp mb*i «a w«) m) \ilri! ah ! ; the-Wuraftpa:mtg prove the breed of cattle, the tame objec- : Soaieties in the' rW hfymtfo* %had but fl ™Pl»?i^Mle : l.i ta - IjMwM * e y Jj»rl fob* .hetto'' withcroß>;br<id,.b n uhjß wWcw tL . onger; thevolgaea :.im flwt&W .wiWe '

. .«N-Bw,^e|il»ndwero''oroßM : witir-Escoln '... and .Cotwrold, of being kept pure VMdulincl.',,,-y . i( h,, )t.,/-.J<v-. '' The' President pointed out tbaUnqn . who were not'-afriid'ofjak'ihg them into tEe ring to.be judged against all comers,,i!i! Bletham said it appeared to hi^, ( th ; at )I |here,f .tendency, to i undervalue'a'long'st'rain of pure blood. Judges., oTOS M #W.*wmVetantto distiiiguwli'' . m Vftlu'aj)|e,pWbredanimali>i The value'df. VOne might be and the other _and-thepublw-roigbt.be misled by the. . ; the - '' ; ' '■''' •" I i ; " Mr P, F. Tanored aaid ho was conv^n'ted ... , ; that all ithe males' exhibited at' the Can •" ..ierbury'Bhow-Tere pedigree aiiililftlK^Tt svfWf*' dangero i lis'''iiis sh^'dhfid^tjl'^dnj- ■-. on allow' ".'..' #£srpH'b'red tafo'als'.'fo miij,' wj^.Bp : p*^ed" £dying,.-tw(>" .difforerjt'olassDawafl'.tq Encourage people ,ju. . to', introduce,, rjew.' specimens,, \ In horaesj ' Classes we there ] 'V,J cwh« a urHiit mucry.lasUyear.wheiivau inv. {trior bre.d..hon>6..was placud abuveothari o(,,undoubted pedigree. He wpbld like toovercome the feeling whioh i; preYai!6d that the cheaper the aniuinl wa» the .betteritwasliked;--; ; ; ; .',;!'!t' : Mr-Bo'tithsßaid tie' : 'wa's'rio ll ']udge oj . «*»ttlefbnt^he'Wuld'Vbtragathst;'tjife Ire!j^plfltioD;v.Seeing that so riiiioh value/.was attached to pure-bred ca.ttle.he thought'it would bVVMhePaffkward i 'for''the croisi 'bred them. • 'Pure-bred oattb, w§re;not jtha 'emanation , of sonJeldfvftidOdisperißationl'but were ■merely the result of seleqtion generation' after rffatioi'jrony the: common herd^ givea.in 'tbis J dis'tiriot' new strains. iq reply, pointed' out thatthe . [wp'sralio^of v tfie ; ;elHsseswouldencourage the bteedmg and exhibiting of" grade t ca,t|l6,. as these would be relieved frorathe competition of pure-bred cattle. , , t .■ The motion'of ■Mr 'Bnriiiy;'wtfß then ;,.-.. curned^by'alargo majority. '-"•■'■■"'■

ADVBRTISIKa. . ; The.Presitlent brought under thd meet- '' ihg'a'oomplaint from Messrs Smith and ;'. Hogg; tot a certain' adVerUßeiuent had • not been sent to them, although they bad iproriously-had the Biippurt of the'a'o'ciety. 'The- president' said he had "on deverdli ~w ooca>idiis''taken' upoii himself to gire, -orders" fgrjdvertisetuents,- but he con-; •'.• «dered(it,wpuldjba well if.thei meeting. gave an instruction in the matter. The) committee had but a limited sum to divide) iri^vartisenients,, and the onus of dis- ■ ttibuting on- members rather on them. If theyiadvertised iuallpapers : they would spend too large a sum. The )|lt|iuativQs-,,were eithdr- limiting : .the ..of; .papers.. in which- their; - ayni/uncementa t appeared; or giving' papers.advertisemems in'rotation.' ' Mr Wolters Baid therewas a'mida'ppfe-.. henaibn of fact in Messrs Smith and Hoggs letter.-"-Advertisements bad been given them conhecYed with,tko show, but the: ordinary rouline' I 'announcemennts had only 'been sent to the'-WAiitARAPA 'Daily ; and the Wairarapa Standard. ..,,,, that as. the me|etißg'Beeip^ , relu'ctant J .to,.iliflcußß the quesTtftritß Wsfderalionlhould bTpustppned till ,their ; .next meeting, ■•'.:, . ' supported afairsharo of advertisements,.being given to Messrs Smith and:H6gg.-., : ..,-...::._ Mr F, F. Tancred BUggeßtod inviting tenders for advertisements.Stuckey moved that the 1 consideration of the question be adjourned, ' K Mr Booth moved as an amendment— That' 'the 1 quetrtidu be* referred" to "the Show Committee,—Tho amendment was carried. ,• . ;

'""CEHTIFICATKS. . The President.reported that Mr Braith-waito'had-sketchod a design for a.certfiiprj>mised..to elaborata it, but-his other engagements .had, as.yet, prevented him from.fulSlling his pledge, and they must .. .wait till next meeting for it ■'■'■"' '* Mi 1 s■ . R Tancred deprecated, the Society' spending:,, money "On cupY'and medals.. Successful'exhibitors were tired of' collecting 'such. tropbiesY.and.would ■ stfo'ner. have some article, of utility, if it ■ was only a teapot. „'.fMr* Booth supported ,the idea,, but. ..ffßrfled'members from offering 1 clockß. He at one time gave actyckrs a, p'rize, j'eneated ' calls,upon'mm. fo'consult iiim as to its ' iiTdapacity for -going, till at,- last,the .ipeake'r took Wellington to the peraorf'iV'om whom he bought it, only to find that nothing'was'the matter with it, and that the difficulFy. had arisen from ' _th¥'p"6'B]eS9or of it not knowing the right wajrlb 1 set it going. , , ' . '.' ,' PiKTNERSHIP MEMBBBS. ..■:■:■; .". |!mfW. ; i!l,.Bidwiii moved, pursuant to \',no|fcei"that firms of two or more mem,'te;s-; Bubsoribing five guineas annually coulirnake three entries in. each class, but

only exercise-one vote at meetings, He yrtd be'had up personal object in bringing fojward'lhe motion, and if. his firm .was .relieved:; by-" it';'.they would give 'five of diibt fund.",

._. ■_. wbb sec'builp9--by ■ Mr i '. JmßiftOn.'aiifl carried. ,-, 1:V ' meeting then adjourned. I ■'■- . :■ -.00 "* "^OJiafiTßlf-MEBtINO.' J : ' "' ■ j After thojjoiicluaiori of the extraordin- ' - :: al 7 fjeneiiiilWetirij;, one took place of the '■ Gejoeral, On.ipraiti e'e," ; W'heti"' jhe annual ; ;( hoFiVpYradetyas'fixed for' Saturday the ; , 80th September, Braithwaite, N. Grace, and. Loing, ap,..r,v>: .pointed'Stew'ards. The question of. ad- ...•. ; .•■ vertiiiqgj'iJegatedtotheoommitteeewas next discussed' at considerable length, and.uUirootely Messrsßi-Uithwaite, Boys, ','.-. ~' .-'andStuckey were appointed-.a sub-corn- '." • ;.;.; mittee to bob what arrangements could be ',: ' ;. mado-with the four Valley pa'rien it a coit ''. .... . of-not more than L4O tor .inserting the ~.j'. ' generalAdtfertilertienta, tliß'ciiriiinittee to I, ,-.:■:. reporUt the.nextmeeting. Nearly an hour »> []u-.. .. wai^hon ? occupied in "arranging judges pi*. :■ .from.this'Society ; t6 J atterid the .annual '" ' Shows of those, at papier, •'Wsmpnuij and J..-.:, , .OhristchurcK/Auouta.dozeihgentlemeii V : consent tcT,.aoti and others %.._ were "nominated for the Secretary to ... . correspond witl|f,;Jt was.decided .that a meeting of the ShoriOotoinitlee should tako place on .Monday fortnight/ .the 7th prox. The- business of the 'day "waia con* I :.' • eluded about B :r^clock.