GOVERNMENT DEFEATED

Wairarapa Age, Volume XXXII, Issue 10679, 6 July 1912, Page 5

GOVERNMENT DEFEATED

THE DEBATE CONTINUED.

ON A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

THIRTY-NINE VOTES TO THIRTY-THREE.

THE MINISTRY'S FATE SEALED

(By Special Telephone Message to the Wairarapa Age.) A diviA took place in the House of Representatives at midnight las* might on a motion to .adjourn -the'debate on the Address-in-Reply.. The Government was beaten- on the <*'vis«>n by 30 votes to 33, and the debate -proceeded. Messrs .Reed, Goates and Rhodes voted with theOpposition. Mr Millar was not pr esent. Several Government followers toft the 'Obamteir h&foxe the vo to was takim.

A MILK-AND-WATER DISCUSSION.

(By Telegraph — Press Association./

•WELLINGTON, Last Night. Mr C .Plairalta (Southern Maori) continued the debate on the Address • ill-Reply in the House of Representatives thas afternoon-. The Government had, he said, done a great deal for the benefit of the see why the, GovefnniE-nt persisted, 'however, in tirtiaitd'ng the Maori in a different way to the pakeha. The Native land w.ns private land, and that fact did notfc seem to b» recognised. To his mind, the Naltive iegislationi was a pu'blic scandal. MR CRAICIE. ' Mr Oraigie (Timara), who followed, 'said he was hot a vei-y good party man. He deplored the way in which the present/ .proceedings hud been carried on-, purely through party methods. Those methods were responsible for a.ii' enormous waste of time, which should be eniiployed to better purposes. 'He sincerely hoped that more attention would be paid to the country, pmj 1 as to party politics. MR CLOVER. ' Mr Glover (Auckland) cotatmiued the debate, and in-tiomated to the Leader of the Opposition that he Would, be to foiJo-w him if he would produce legisla/tioa for the mplifting of the- condlitions prevudlhig 'among the masses. He stu-e&sed thy matter c'f pensions to old soldiers'. . Only two, he said, had received pensions so far, though a (number had gone be-;, fore -tlie Magistrates for examination as toi fitass, and to 1 show their qualifkiations for reward for services rendered to tlhe country. DR TE RANGIHIROA. The Hon. Dr To 'Rutogihiroa dealt exbaiuiatively with Native land matters from 1891 to 1911. One third or the Natives' land had,, ho said, been 1 al-ientolted. The -Natives had contributed as much as anyone 1 to the settlement of the lands. A great had j 'been .made of the Natives holding unproductive lands. . In 1891, he .said,, there were two acid three-quar-miiMkm acres cf Niwive : land unclothed in' wiile. i In 1891 the amount hiad beeni reduced to 190,792 'acres. | 'itac-xe facts did ret to stagr.afr. u in, -iht< ;:ci,...•...-•■..: .tf Ndcive ]• !-..c I r. 'J Ix •' hu.es rx.w opened fchoukl , 'be cpen-cd T(;r co-ukment, but for tho settlement of XdA\<Ji<. MR T. Y. SEDOOH.

Mr T. Y. Seddon (Westland) ex- j plaiined i;h,£) rcaisom for the industrial unrest at Reeftoiv. He suggested that a solution of the lalbcmr difficulties might be arrived ut by an amendment of the law that would empower the Labour Department to bring the parties) to the dispute together to conciliate the ircwbfe. In tire- present state cif the laiw the Department of Labour was power less to take any action'. Referring to.' matters poli■tjeoil, he eculd m)t tbink that any man who had any regard for his word or pledg? would, in. face of the present political crisis, dosdrt has party. He advocated the extension of the experimental fairm system. He recognised that a> great deal had be n done in tihi'.ifc respect by the- preran.t Goverinanent, bait a great deal might be one in experimentiing with difficult soils. He l-efeoied to tb» urgency tfior a ixxiiprcea l ] anTalngemeinifc with Australia regarding farm produce. MR BUXTON. The Hon. Mr Buxton continued the debate. He suggested that the public accoulnte should include a. clear t;feiLem-2n>t o'f the. country's assets. 0-Oiiws informat-'on was not concisely pre- } sented in tbo finamcoall papers, and ad-, vantage was taken cf the 'omission to circulate dainrAigintg statements. He quoted spcodhes by Oppositionists en *lfe Advances to' Settlers Bill of 1894. GOVERNMENT DEFEATED. Mr Huidm'.rrsh moved the adjournment cif the Hjouse' at 11.50. The Speaker called for a seconder, and Mr Jisitlt. roa? to second. Mr Allen said Mr Isiitt had already ispokedi, aind. could not again speak. The Speaker decided that Mr Isitt w>as rn'iitkd to spoivk on the motion to adjourn. ■The Bvuse.fhen divided on the mo-

tiion o -adjourn, and the melbion way •defeated-, by 39 votes to 33. The debate was then continued. , (At 2.30 ' o'clock this morning the 'Pjress Asismdatdoh' agent at Welling--tbn, advised us that the final division was not lik.!y to be tiaken. for several hours.) ' \ THE DIVISION LIST. ' The division list on Mr Hindmarsh's motion was as follows: AY.ES. (33). — Messrs Atmore, Brown, Buddo, Buxton, Carroll, Colvin, Davey, Dickie, Ell, Forbes, Glover, Ha.iD.iai, Himdanarsih, Isi'tt, LaurI ,'eaison, MjdOaluan, Mao Donald, T. ; Mackenzie, R. McKenzie, Myers, Parata, Te Rangihiroa, Robertson, Russell, S-eddon : , Sidey, R. W. Smith, J".-. C. Thomson:, Veitch, ,Waird, Wilford,. Witty. NOES (39). Messrs ATJm, And€«\s6n, Bell. J. Bollard, R. F. 'Bollard, Bradn&y, Buchanan, Buick, QimpbelJ, Coates,,'Dickson, Escort, (Fisher, Frascr, Guthrie, 'Harris, Herdnian, Hine, Hunter,. Lang, Mail' colm, 'Miander, Maissey, A. "K. Newman,, Nos/worthy, Okey, Pearcfc, Pomare, Reed, R. H. Rhodes, T. W* ißßiodee, Scott, F. H. Smith, Sta-thara, Sykes, G. M. Thomson, Wilson and Young.