COUNTY LOAN PROPOSALS

Thames Star, Volume LII, Issue 13932, 10 July 1919, Page 1

COUNTY LOAN PROPOSALS

DEPUTATION TO COUNCIL. Thu County ''.loanr pi'op'ooails figiured .pa'oaniiai'eiit-ly in ,the discaiissionisi at yesterday's Counoilj meeting. Before 'the minutes of the meeting adopting" the it/aa'-gToutixig 1 scilieany wea-e oO'iifii'med, Cr. Ox referring to the wording of the resoSutlioin,, objecited ,ta.'the p'ln'aisei cftlio whole of the bj--roa.ds in the area." Five ronds, hfj said, were mentioned, Kopul, Myjtatoke, Puriri, .Whaiieipoai; and Townsend'si. The Chaiiniit».in cotnteinded tlu»,t no ali.cratioin was nowi-sKn.ry. Tlie resoiluhivm -s-'aiid tJiaib the rnin.in rotul wjis to bci dcoie fir«cl .".aid the otrher ronds. In their oirdei" of fit.neiS-s and im^ortainoe 1. If they were not importaiiit, tliey wiroiild 'never b© done*. Cr./Cox: If you're saitiisfied I'm nioit. Tnia ongiincer will ha.ye to pro--pirr'o esitiimnitleis for aill tlhepe roads. The Cleik: If tihe'miimites are con--recit they should be confimied. The •resolution' wa.g Avri'tten out. by Cr. Adams a.nd hamded '■ t& me,. Jf a^fter dcnifirm^itioin., the Ooain'dil is i\&t satisfied, they should decide whicih ro^xllsi thei einig'ineier should c^tiimiaite for. Tlie minutes we^' tlion con firmed. , Afteir . kuifcih va dopultaitaom comsiis^inpj of Messrs Ba«, Cribb and 'lizard Wfi*. inta-'oduiced by Or. Cox, who aqiaTcgrlsed for 1 tihe unavoid'aible aib■steirac© of Mr Faithful.: A petitiiom bcn.rini<>; itihe niaones of , H's ratepayer's of rhe ftrea affecitied was presented by Mr Baot. The jpdtita'on. stiattled thiatt) if the loami piroposals included not only tflie maiimi iroiadls, butb the by-roads they would be ituraed doiwii- A loan for •tiaa-'-grout.ing' tihe main road would Tfcceiivtei 'isUipipofft. Mr Bax: We aii'e uo't. here to turn donvm yoiur ipropoisnls; we admire yoai for thfem a.nd are heiie rtto- help them.. The main road to Hikutaiiai is *j<ne> of d:ihe woii'st "'ill Zealand. I' -/c tteveJled over hundreds and hu.ndveds of mules and ha,v'en't dropped' on a M'orsie oiiiO. If yoai puit. the ioiami a--it, is with the by-roads low. ilt. will be. turned down,. If you doi the main loaid .and show us, sojoiieitlidng j^ood, piiobaibly in about 2i years, whetnl it is completed, momey will be dhervpeir. We aill want to s&e the nm.in raaici gionie oil with rigte away amd fin Hied.: If you put a lean for the road frora Partiwai bi-iidge to Hikutadlai, it will be ooa'i-'ied easily, otherwise it will be tua-ned down. The County ha.« lost; P laii i|ai\vad amd Block 27, amri. it b go-ingl to lose Hiwu-'afci Plains. Thtera will be leifb only a narrow strip tc c:'illeciS rates fromi and in thait. a.rt tlvo.usa.nids of acires of Native lam whicih do not «pay rates- We waniii. yoi to: gloi oil witih the main road and ii .you'do that you will please the rate payers. Most of tlie 145 people wh< signed iMnaiti peitition live off tihe mair ■road's. Cr. Peters: While we will put- th* lnnn for the whole atmoiumib, th< money Aviill only be raised as we warn k .; The Chaivmam.: The Counci tliomgiiit' it wise to 1 imbhide ithe by rbnds with tihe main roads. Wher tiie miaan, ltoad is done, it is owlhiuratemi naltiure that the mmiia roat peoiplle will aiolfc oa.re whalt! becomiesi o the by-nioodis and these carry miosit o the ta-flffio. Our p.it)ip io|sai is- that tihi maim''road showild bd done, first; the] we'll lra,ve tlie maichinery .to> go ©i witih ithe otlhew a,nd itb will sai\*e a.n ©flier ipo'll. The* Ministea* of Publ^ Woiiis luas- promised a, suibsidy o £6000, but tliis was partly on. comdi tiicni Hiliat Itihe by-roads should b linked mp. The County Engineer' estiimisiitla is £500' -to £600 a mile fo tai-gfrcmting a- 15ft road. This doe ' not- include levelling 1 or deiViailions ' The by-roads are to be 12f!b and ' bolievo will % be> doaie foi* half till a amount- I th-ink 'tilie people on th ■ l>7 r --i'oiadsi shon'ild ha.ye a. gtiairante tlind) thciir roads will be doiiie, amd ? p, ma.in 'road loa-u! only ?s carrie tli at will be the end of tihe by-roads The money for the by-roads will ni ', be raised tilll the main road is doT " a.nd theire will be no interest, om: i The Whole matter should" be he 1! OA^ei; till Mr Ham.s>cxn is here shor'tb Mr Cribb: There is th-ulth. i.nl wh'f tlie Chairmain says. But .if thei b lcnm is ciairr^ed, who" iss tto sa.y wh; the ■■sitnto of the labour markcib wi , he when, the main rmad is done. Sur .pcsie tihe Maltnifoke i*oad were th© fir , by-road: .diome, iit .would raise tl '» v.".iluie of land of seMerts in, till; * neigJib'ourhoocl. These a.i Je .the ipeop who. should pay lnoisit for it. The. pe pie who do- Ti.ott- use that road 1 oaifce l» yca.t will ha.re to pay a;s niiKih i yoi'r seih'eimie. We all. knoiw, the. o 5 eniying, 'Lire nfeiar 1 tihe Chairniata a>\ yrni'l] hjav© good roads.' * The Chairman: It',si not the cia fo far" Tlie Maitlnittoke lttod isi tl worst in the Coumty. . • Mr Cribb: The by-iioadsi shorn - be in a. sipeci'iail .lMfe,^ aireia. of t!ho - who will benefit. The Cotimity miigi .issue licienfeeis tot• tihose who use t; rend. - Mrßaoc: The Coitncdl lias, our syi (palhy; we want tia see the ma

road doaifei, but if you go itti for the big loam ;3t; will not be carried. Thco-e will be no subsidy now for tihe byroads, bu/t when . wan- oomdiiifaro'nsi ai-e over and the .Govarraneiat: is once mioa'e on a firm foo'tdngl. we.may get a good saiibsidy. I aim aibsolultely cer.tiaiß tihe big loaa will not be carried, amd certain they will supipoi-t tihe main road' loao. The whole counitiry is exciited nowj 'we don't know whetre. we we. The (people are frightened of ' a big 1 loam. We hia/ve a disgraceful j maim road amd we want tihiaib put in • order. . . • Gr. Nenymaitt: I think tlhiose who signed thd* petition were under a miisapprehensnorii. We want them to auithorisie us to do the loti, but the first to be done will be tihe main . road and tiliaiti will take aibouiti 21- I years- Then tihe PuirirJi road will be j doni&; ttott will be the nuaiin outlet, to Auckland.. Iti miay be 6 years or rmore: befoir© othea's au'e done. When ( - tlhey are completed, we will hia.ve per-. haips the besfc roads in tihe Auckla-nd Province!. Mr CKbb: We ai'e all anxious to haivfc the miaiin, road done first. Cr. Newmiam : If new settlers buy in om the ma.in lnad, "whew it is donle, tihey aire not jroing to voite for a by-roaidis loan.. The Clerk: Dunnng <tlie wair the whole of th& local bodies in New Zealand did practically nwthlisng. but ' they are making, up for it now. Its the nexti 12 months not one tenth of tihe applications for subsidies fen' main roads clan be entertained by the Government. The money available is merely a fradbLoni of ..what i's requirted. For the next 1(> years the Goveimime.nit will not enitertia.in' swb- 1 sidies for side rwads. To gldb a fiiubpidy for our miain road, Ca-- Adams • and myself liad to show Sir Win. Fraeer that wa were gomig. to link up tihe side roads, so thalfc farmer^ could getfc to the facibories. Them- he. agreed. If we had -gone tb. him with a maim road scibems only, them, he would hare tunned down our subsidy. Cr. Oox: I think we should gtfant the wishes «f the ratepayers 1. Cr. j Newmami say® .the by roadsi tnay notbe done for 6 or 8 yearn How <xvn the engineer estiimaitte so fair aheaiclf When the .seitltlera see the advantajres of m g»ood road throu^Ji the eiaimpie of the madni oread, there will be no difficulty in carrying! ai second loam, for the by-roada. They should be [ separ'attie. The Chadrmaai': That will be the „ end of the byroadsi. Wliat will be . y ithe good of doing the maini road, if : settlers have to plqfigh throuffh mud , to get to it. I ca,n.'t see tihie faiiroess [ of the petiitEon;. >, Mr Bax: We are tnlot, her& to djc^ I tatie to the Cousnfcdl. !■ live om a byj road myself and would Kke to see it p dionlei, but I am afraid the big loian . wall be tunned down. j, Thei Chaiirmian,: Mr Hafnsein will be comingl up agsrin, and he cam place nvaititbns: befoire the lateipayei-s. I x thank siomnuei who signed the petitlioTi' \ weo'e masinlfonned. ' b Mr Bax: I object to tha*. We were not misinformed; we are goingl om your own (published figures. The . work will cost abouiti £1000 a mdle. j Cr. Peters: I think they are mis- .. tiaken. The idea is only to get uiutth-oa-ity to (pulfc tihe Toads in the area in. f order aig requiredf Cr. MoMaihon!:, Some adjustments J ai Jo wanted between the main roads 1 and the by-roads. We all wamt "the j main mad done, but it is not right . that a isettlea' in Tobaira shiOfuld pa? c aa high a rate for a by-road afti the ,f" other end of the dislta*iclfc as the TOfixi . who- lives there. ci Tlie Cniadiman: There must be an S! adjustmenit.. The jmaiin or the by-road a v must pay towa/rds tile marin road amd ? miusib also pay moaie towards lv's own ; _ xoad than the other man. I Before, the deputaitdon withdrew Mr ,t, Baix said tihiat if tfhe miain road were c put in order, there would be more c money for maiintainiing 1 the by ixiadsl; if Mr Ordbb addaoig- that it, would nnif d save £100 in. tihe cost- of a. poll, ii «. the firsti poll were lost).' The -depwtat tion then retdned. ,o Ci J. Cox- said thait. as repfroaenltanic t. tho«e who signed the petition, h< d wished to miovip. for the' rescindinrr o (p. the Counicttrs' motion «o as to> confin* i,t the loairn to 'tihe ma'iini roads- Hi lor thoughifc that the loam ac it was now i,t, would be turned down; im fact h< II would vote against, ilt himself. I p. would cost .£.looo' a mile to taor gi'ow s,t *he roiad', while the Chairman tol( ie the deputation- £600. ' j at Or 4. Peters: Hansen saysi £900. ►I© The Comnitly Bngdmeer sadd 'bhat ha a- estimaite otf £500 (pef mile was for ta a alone. With thei metal it would cos in £1000 a mile. ild Cr, Cox: Then It will take all o id £25,000 for ;tJre maim' road. Or. McMaihonj:. If we tackle th ,se maiTi road only firsti, we'll carry ft. he Cr- Peters: I'm quit© certain i will be tua-nied doiwn by the pieoipJ 3(j on tihe; side roads. . , «c Or. Biatcimani: We've dome the bes ht we could. If tihe people on the srid he roads don't w&niti tiheii*' roads don just now, let's jret on with the ma.i! t*- road. i.iw Cr. Newtnaini; The Cha.irmaa sbjowl

go round to the various oeovbres-aaui tell the people what will be spent on eaoh, rood amd whiaiti each man will pay. The Oienk can! gefc that dnfoir-' meiiofn. | The Clerk: If tihe Ei^ineer eeti-1 mates the cogit of tihe roads I cami do' it. j The Chia-irmfini moved ifchat the- , Clerk pi-«piaire) the neceflsaay iriformar tion and tlie Oouucrl moot the ratepayers and lay tihe eoheme before them). Seconded by Cr. PeteHa and carried. • ,1 i