HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
AFTERNOON SITTING. Wellington-, Yesterday. NO CONFIDENCE DEBATE — A GOVERNMENT VICTORY. The debate on the second reading of the North Island Main Trunk RailwayLoan Bill was renewed by Mr Stevens, who said that he believed he would be doing Government injustice if he did anything to prevent them carrying oat their policy, even although he did not acquiesce in that policy in every respect. He asked them to imagine what it would be if the like of Mr Fish, who occupied the House the previous evening for three hours, was to get a seat on the Minis* terial benches ? His speech throughout was a tirade of vulgar abuse, and he asked what else they might expect if such as he got into the Government. The worst that could be said about the Government was that it had retarded the country in consequence of its extreme carefulness. j
Mr Peacock announced his intention of voting with the Government. Mr George professed himself an independent member, who had been brought to vote for Mr Montgomery's resolution on the ground that he was entirely opposed to borrowing. Mr Dodson believed in the efficacy of the Government party, but still he would not sacrifice ,everything to party. He meant to follow Mr Montgomery into the lobby, but, on the other hand, he was not prepared to support any government that might be formed by the Opposition. Mr Fergus strongly supported the loan policy. Mr Bracken considered that all the present Government had done which was worthy of praise had been filched from the Opposition. Mr Hursthouse wished to see a distinct party formed to oppose all borrowing; it was ruining the colony. He felt bound to vote on this occasion with the Opposition.
Mr Smith opposed the borrowing proposals. Mr J. Mckenzie spoke to the same effect, and Messrs W. C. Buchanan and Watt spoke in favor of the Government. Mr Ivess objected to the magnitude of the loan, and Mr Fitzgerald spoke warmly in favor of the Government, and declared Mr Fish's speech to be a disgrace to the House. The House divided at, 2 o'clock. The following is the division list:— Ayes, 40: Atkinson, Beetham, Bryce, Buchanan, W. C. (Wairarapa South), Connolly, Dick, Driver, Fergus, Fitzgerald, Fuller, Green, J. (Waikouaiti), Hamlin, Hobbs, Rutherford. Sutter, Swanson, Trimble, Whitaker, Wilson, J. (Kaiapoi), Wright, Hurst, Johnston, C. J. (Te Aro), Johnston, D. W. (Manawatu), Kelly, Levin, Mcllwraith, McMillan, Munro, O'Callaghan, Peacock, Pearson, Petrie, Postlethwaite, Stevens, Sutton, Thompson, H. R. (Ohristchurch North), Watt, Whyte (Waikato), Wilson (Foxton), Pilliet.
Noes.— Barrpn, Bracken, Brown, J. 0. (Tuapeka), Buchanan, J. (Napier), Daniel, Dargaville, Dodson, Duncan, Feldwich, Fish, George, Harris, Hursthouse, Hutchison, Ivess, Levestam, Macandrew, McDonald, McKenzie, J. (Moreaki), Pyke, Seddou, Sheehan, Shephard, Shrimski, Smith, Steward, Tairoa, Turn' bull, Tawhai, Weston, Thompson (Clutha) White, W. (Sydenham), Tomoana. Pazbs :—Ayes : Mitcbelson, McKenzie Captain, Morris, Williams, Hall, Fulton, Mason, AHwright, Brown E., White J. 8., Eolleston. Noes: Cad man, DeLautour, Te Wheoro, Moss, Bathgato, Seddon, Seaton, Grey, Tole, Holmes, Green M. After the division considerable confusion arose regarding the pairs. It appeared that Mr Sutton had paired with Mr Joyce, but had voted under a misunderstanding, believing that Mr Joyce was also voting, whereas the latter was not in the Chamber. Mr J. B. Whyte had also voted in error, having been paired with Mr Holmes, who consequently did not vote. The Speaker allowed explanations to be made, but said of course, the House took no official cognisance of pairs. On the .question for the second reading of *the North Island Loan Bill, some further discussion took place, but ultimately the Bill was read a second time on a division of 45 to 24. The House rose at 2.50.
The following is the second division list. The numbers were given as 45 to 24, but Mr Isaac Wilson, teller for the ayes, it appears had his name omitted, so that the correct numbers should be 46 to 24. Ayes : Atkinson, Beetham, Bryce, W. C, Buchanan, Connelly, Dargaville. Dick, Dodson, Driver, Fergus, Fish, Fitagerald, J. Green, Hamlin, Harris, Hobbs, Hurst, C Johnson, W. Johnston,Kelly, Levistam, McDonald, Mcllwraith, Mcfienzie, McMillan, Moss, Munro, O'Callaghan, Peacock, Fetrie, Postlehtwaite, Pyke, Rutherford, Shepherd, Stevens, Steward, Sutter, H. Thompson, Trimble, Watt, Whitaker, J. B. Wbyte, J. Wilson, J. E. Wilson Wright, Pilliett. Noes: Allwright Barron, Bracken, J. C Brown, J. Buchanan, Daniel, Dunedin, Feldwick, Holmes, Hursthouse, Ivess, Joyce, Montgomery, Shsehan, Shrimski, Smith, Sutton, Swanson, Taiaroa, Tawhia, J. W. Thompson, Tomoana, Turnbull, W. White.
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Thames Star, Volume XIII, Issue 4248, 12 August 1882, Page 2
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