AUCKLAND PROVINCIAL COUNCIL.-Friday.

Thames Advertiser, Volume VII, Issue 1828, 1 June 1874, Page 3

AUCKLAND PROVINCIAL COUNCIL.-Friday.

i> MISBEPOETr •-' ' ■;■' Mr Swan called attention 1 : t'o the fact 'that, in the Thames' 'Advebtisee of the '28th •instant, it - was' reported that the Petition 1 Committee reported on the petition 'of Mr McGregor and others that they had no claim. The report was on the isolated petition of John Graham.

;. ; , EDUCATION. . T/Mr Swan gave* notice -that W would move next sitting-day :—" That a reul i addreaa;. ;bo'; presented :' to'"his •Honor the i Superintendent; • requesting 'Mm .to ask from the General 'Governnfent '& sufficient 1 sum; as au ; advance; to cover the grant to and expenses of the Education Board,!; until Ithe,; Legislature has time to pass a General Colonial Taxation for Educational-purposes ;■' 'as also to advance a sufficient sura to cover the payments'heretofore made by'the Provincial Government td "the 'Education' Board. That the General Government be wked, through his "Honor, to; bring before the legislature'' a bill providing that'.'there should bq raised a sum sufficient to meet .the" educational requirements, .of, the colony, upon the basis of population; by a ,tax,on,property atid income, or otherwise. That: each .province shall be allowed to carry; on its own system of education, so that the Legislature shall notbe required to '"deliver any-opinion on the different systems now in force by virtue of provincial Aots..'.' That the money, .raised, for educational; purposes, by, '.the Colonial shall b? tUa,

~i several provinces,.of .the colony.in a capitutiou on the basis of population."

j APPROPRIATION BILL. I Mr Wood doubted whether, the Coun- , oil was in a position to;ipKceed''jvjtlijhe \ Appropriation Bill. *Tkere' was a very important question undecided in connec-,. tion with the rating clauses of the education Bill. There was a general-jipipressipiij 1 abroad that Mr 'Whitaker's' ; opiiiion';was adverse, that was to say, that the ratesl could not be collected according to law.— Mr Dargavillo. agreed,with the observation just,;mad;e by (he hon?member.' He thought-it b'ad 'been -thVduty'of-the 4-Go-vernment to have informed the Council on this matter. He believed) Mr) .Whir* taker's opinion was kno-*n to • them several days. If so, they should have, informed the House, He (Vlr Dargayille) had good reason fowayjug'-that Mr•Whitaker's wasl tjvat s tbis*.riite ; could not be collecte\Ht s therefore useless to.go. oa ( esti-, mates in snch/'circumstknces/'H whether' the -righV cbur'sV-would' be 1 lb move an amendment to tho proposalW read the bill a second time., Mr(,.Dargaville'_moved,''';Th'at the'clebate;upon the Appropriation Bdl be adjournod until after the'Vat'e'of ie'liducatioii'Bill'shouia be determined." He did not believe that the Government had behaved quite' candidly'/.iwith'.in the.'' 'Council.p-'i- 1 : He understood that rib machinery,.could be devised under which the., education rate should be collected.— Mr Hamlin Amendment.— ; Mr Sheehan said ,he had not the written, dpinion with him, but he could repeat it almost word for word, and he pledged his Ijonour to the ofhis'i.verflion f of it. Mr Whkaker's (opinion is; ! " Tna(/ no legal difficulty exists to the recovery of the rates as jßxed,-,by)tho;sd/section's in-the-Education Bill which authorise the rate; that the clauses which have been framed I to enable the rate to be recovered are ample for that-purpose, and in his (Mr Whitaker's) opinion will defeat any technical objpc'ioii that might be made on account of justice,,"—Motion ..for s the amendment put, (f^'Goiihcildivided■i.-r-l 4yes, 18; noes, 23.-Mr Carieton next moved the following amendment tq the • tiapi ftiestipn] "jTlikf iu|the'..bpibn ofihi's Qouncil. there are no reasonable grounds for supposing that the revenue estimated b|y the .ProvitiolaF Treasurer' mll'Mje realised within the financial year,- - and Co.uncjl. <is .not; in a* positioiHovbl'e' large sums fof steam subsidies, roads, public works, &c, <fcc.~ -■-Mr Wood secondedj ( tho A amendmQnt,,jr- ( , Mr bagniirconfessed'ttiat'h'is'view was sjniilar to those of the hon member for Barnell (Mr Wood)/ ii He' wouldjlik/ h - have heard tilie older members of'tlie 1 Qouncil upon this subject. The work ( done during the four weeks the House" had been sitting was of a very unsatisfac--1 tory character. First tufiy A Ven|jto,pne thing and patched it a little/then to another andipstchedithatj spiithatjh'oni memv b'ers were getting into a fog, and an , opinion;,was'be.gihnitigiiforexistittiatithe. business would he rushed .through,- 1 iIW i tlloughc .tliatitlie, advance .of £40iOOQf[*oiH , the General Government, to be' secured 1 1 by the .Provincial Government: by 'land revenue looked ve!ryfmuohvlikea'hattempt upon the goldfieldsJrevenue.; for-,; , according 1 and the hon. member (Mr Swan) ; ■ tile goldfields; revenue' would! bo -ab- , sorbed in the labilities of the ! ; province,,,. H;o thoughMhe! older-members of that House sho.ukLhave expressedthelri ■ opiuions;aS;a.guide,to'the: hew,members..'--j-Mr Carpenter supported the second 1 reading ( qf I the,,bill; He. thought'the state- , ment of the hon. member for I'arnell (Mr i Wood) .w,as not,, more •satisfactory- than ; the financial statenrnt. He had intended to support the'amendment, because he wished to see the Education question decided.;.But.ili-appeared'thatsome-sym-v . ;pathy was offered by delay to improper ,' demonstrations. He was not to be scared by any exhibitions of .'the rabble* however. much they, might derive assistance from some within .that!;-Houss.iii Hei'.must' accept the financial statement as the state-; ' ment of the Superintendent, after inquiry and investigation such as no other had. He at all events was not in a position to controvert any of the sources of .revenue, '- -whatever might be the correctness of the estimate;. !}Tha.t.waß almatterforiiiquiry! He (Mr Carpenter) was not awaie that any other lion, member was in a positionto' dispute these items, or if they were, they had adduced no proof. The matters involved were biattersijof '-detail.-r-Question put>,that.. thellbill be read-4 second —Ayes, 24: Bagnall, Beveridge, Boylaa, Brown, Byrpa, Cadman, OaVpeatef,' " Ofispe, Digaan, Graham, Johnstone, M Eelly,. McLeod, Morris, Philips, Prime,' ! iieed, j - BJoche, Sheehan, Swanson, Taylor, Tonks, add Wilson. .Woes, 11: Ball, Carieton, : Hay, Hurst, Moat, Ormiston, ■ %yburn-,-Shepherdj Swan, and Wood.— The bill was read a second time.

THAMES AND WAIKATO. I •This read a.thiri ; timo .and' passed.—Mr - v ßagnall! moved/-" That'ia* tlie opinion of this Council it is desirable to] open up a road between the Thames and Waikato, via Ohinemuri. and that a re'speotful- address presented jto' |is Honor the' 'asMng him to, place on the additional estimates a sum of money sufficient to carry vout this work." He believed tbisvone of the most important works upon which the province cquld enter. ■ The Thames goldfield was < the natural market for the Waikato produce. jMost i.of-,- thej Imeat'. consumed at . the if Thames;; came-.from- ,-Napier.--*Mr Boche ; said • Mr. J".: .Maokay,. jun„ told him:fcliere coul4.beno difficulty.': £1,200 would l ,make;ia.iC,attle., i tract.--;Mr l - Kelly thought the proper course would be to ask the Superintendent to use his influence with the General Government to get said the Provincial Government contemplated some expenditure inthatdireetion,-: though not;to: the extent*desired. r He "full the' importance of' the subject.! 'He'hoped the debate wouldbe withdrawn, or the mover consent to an adjournment'.—Mr ; B'aghall : consented 1 to 1 ' an adjournment.—The Oouaoil rose at 11.15 o'clock until Monday, at 7 p.m. "\