THE PHOENIX PARK ASSASSINATIONS.

Temuka Leader, Issue 1099, 1 May 1883, Page 3

THE PHOENIX PARK ASSASSINATIONS.

Caret's Evidence. (From the Freeman's Journal), Mr Murphy then examined Car ay. Your name is James Carey ? Yes. THE FENIAN ORGANISATION. In 1861 or 1862 did you become a member of the Fenian organisation ? I did. ~ A sworn member of it ? Yes. Mr Murphy—Were you a member of it on the sth March, 1867 1 I was. Mr Keys—Keep jour voice up if you please. Carey—Oh, I will speak loud enough then. Mr Murphy—From 1867 to 1888 what position did you occupy in the Fenian organisation ? I was always a member of the Dublin Directory. Where were you living in February, 1878 1 Were you living at Cork-hill 1 No, Denzille street. Do you recollect any persons meeting the Dublin Centres at your house in February, 1878? I-do. During the time when you were a member of the Directory did you know several others who were members of the Directory ? 1 did. He was again requested to speak louder Mr Murphy—Give me the names of some of the others who were on the Directory ? Mr Bracken was one. Mr Murphy then asked the witness if he knew Dan Curley. Dr Webb objected to Mr Murphy asking questions in 6uch a way as to put the names of the people in tb» mouth of the witntse, A somewhat

prolonged wrangle then ensued between the two geutlemen, and ultimately Dr Keys asked that the examination should proceed. In the course of the argument Dr Webb called Carey an ' infamous witness' To this description Mr Murphy strongly objected. Mr Murphy then proceeded with his examination of the witness. You have told me that Daniel Curley was never a member of your Directory ? Never. Did you know who, during that time, acted as secretary to the brotherhood in Dublin—the Feuian organisation ? At one time—a portion of that time. Yes. Who ? Thomas Brenoan. Who is Thomas Been nan ? Ho was the secretary of the late Land Leagne. Do you know the man who acted as Chairman of the Directory, or some of the men ? Some of them. Do you recollect any particular men ceasing to be chairmen, and you having to elect other chairmen ? Yes, a coupl«. Who were they—give me their names ? I remember two at leastGive me those two ? Thomas Bracken was one, James O'Connor was ano'her, and there was John Nolan. Did you know iu that organisation who constituted the supreme organisation 1 No, I never was in, it. Were you at any tim<* yourself treasurer of the Brotherhood 1 I was, a long time, Was Thomas Brennan secretary during a portion of the time that you were treasurer ? For a matter of about a year. Do you recollect in 1878- about Christ - mas, 1878—there being.au election for a representative of the province f I do. Were you one of the candidates for it! 1 was. Who was elected at that time as representative of the province ? "\I cannot tell. Had you taken at any time the house 10 Peter street ? I had. Was that for the assembly of the Fenian organisation 1 Yes. And had you it there up to 1879 ? Yes So long as you were treasurer, and it was purely a Fenian organisation what state were your funds in ? A very bad state. During that time what body did yon call yourselves 1 The Irish Republican Brotherhood. Did you ever try any persons by courtmartial? Several. Up to this time iu 1879 or so what cl.i--- r>f persons used you try by courtmarti .i .' Informers only. Mr Webb—What do you mean by informers—do you mean men in your own position ? Witness—-1 am no informer. I got no one arrested. Mr Murphy—Now, during that time, and when you were a purely Fenian organisation, did you ever try and arrange the death of any other persons that you regarded as informers or traitors ? Never

Prior to November 1881, did you know any one of the prisoners named Edward M'Caffrey? I did. Was he a member of the organisation t Well, I believe lie was.

A SOCIETY TO ' MAKE HISTORY.'

In answer to Mr Murphy witness proceeded to state that Edward M'Caffrey brought a man to his (Carey's) house in November, 1881. This man's name was Walsh, he could not say if it was John, but he understood that Walsh belonged to the North of England. Mr Murphy—Did this mau Walsh say why he paid a visit to Dublin 1 Yes. What did he say he came for ! He said he came to establish a society that would make history. THE HEADS OF THE 4 INVINCIBLES.' Carey then said that Walsh mentioned to him the names of four persons in Dublin who, it had been suggested in London, should become the head of the new organisation in Dublin, In the presence of M'Caffrey, Walsh asked Carey if he knew two persons named John Lucas and Phelan, a railway guard. Witness answered in the affirmative, and gave his opinion of the two men. M'Caffrey then left Walsh and Carey together, when the former administered an oath to witness.

Mr Murphy—Had he anything in his hand ? A knife.

What kind of a knife ? An ordinary pen knife.

Tn what hand did he hold it '{ ,In his right. You held it at the same time ? I did. Could you give me the words he read out of the paper 1 I read it myself out of the paper. Mr Murphy—Now what were the words? Witness—That ' I, of my own free will, and without any mental reservation whatever, would obey all orders given to mo by the lush Invinciblea nor seek to 'ask more than was necessary to carry out such ends, the violation of whicfc was death.' There wei*e some other words which I forget. Did you repeat these words more than once on that occasion for him 1 I think once. Now a few days after that did the same man Walsh come to your house again 1 He did. Who was he accompanied by ? By James Mullett, Edward M'Caffrey, and Daniel Curley. Did he tell you then what those three of you were to be in Dublin ? That we were to be the ' four' for Dublin. Did he tell you anything of what tb»

members of the society were to be in Englaud. Scotland, and Ireland t H& did. He told you what were to be the numbers of this society called the ' Irish Invincibles"? He did. How many did he say 1 About 200 ; it was not to exceed 250. It was not to exceed 250 for the Kingdom ? Yes. Did he tell you how the society or organisation—how its members were to be selected ? Out of the Fenian organisation Did he say anything as to how they were to be selected—how they were to be chosen 1 They were to be picked men (laughter in the deck), How many were to be selected ? What was to be the number for Dublin ? It was not to exceed fifty (renewed laughter in tha dock, and a voice ' Speak up'). Who were to be responsible for the selection of these ? The four men. That is yourself and he three men you have named ? YesWho was to bo the chairman ? James Mullett. Was ho then elect 3d bv you in the presence of this man Walsh ? He was. CAEEY STATES "WHO WERE TO BE 1 BEMOVED.' Did Walsh, in the presence of the other three, tell what was to be the object of the society ? To remove all the tyrants from the country. Did he tell you any names on the list of the society that were to be removed ? He did. Who were the names stated to you that it was determined by the London society to be removed 1 Mr Forster was the first name. Who was the next! Earl Cowper (sensi tion) was to be the next. And who was the next 1 They were the only ones on that occasion. After those were removed or done away with did he tell you how many others were to be selocfced ? We were left to our option to chose the remainder. Did he on that oecasion give you any money 1 Fifty sovereigns, Who took charge of the fifty sovereigns! James Mullett. Had any sum at all equal to that come into youJ funds duriug the time that you were purely the Fenian organisation ? I never saw any of it ; nothing at all like it. Did you get any funds from outside or were the funds merely contributed by the members themselves? The funds were what wor« contributed by the men —twopence a week. At any time subsequent to that was anothar name added to those of Mr Forster and Loid Cowper 1 Yes. Whose name ? Mr Burke's (sensation). Was it proposed by Walsh, or by whom? It was mentioned among ourselves. Do you recollect having made arrangements about taking a house in Cork Hill? I do. For what purpose was was the house taken ? It was to shoot Earl Cowper. Do you recollect going out to the Phoenix Park in December, 1881 1 I do. Prior to that time had you known the appearance of Mr Forster at all 1 No, J never. On the first occasion that you went who accompanied you ? Daniel Curby, and there were other peisons also. Who else were -with you ? Caffrey and Mr Walsh. Did he always go by the name of Mr Walsh? Always. Did you walk or drive ? We went on a oar. Were the others on a oar ? They were on another car. Did you, on the first occasion see any one go out 1 Mr Forster and Mr Burke's brother. At that time had you known Mr Burke from his brother ? I did not. You subsequently knew that he was not Mr Tom Burke, but his brother ? I did. And how did you know Mr Forster ? By hearsay and what I read in the newspapers, (To be Continued).