UNIVERSITY SENATE Auckland, March 5.

Te Aroha News, Volume VI, Issue 350, 13 March 1889, Page 3

UNIVERSITY SENATE Auckland, March 5.

Committee on Course of Law. — The following report of the Committee on lh c Course of Law was then considered :—: — The Committee have the honour to report (1) That in order to more clearly show how the University can undertake the Law and General Knowledge Examinations required of candidates for admission as barristers and solicitors they have drafted amended rules, under the "Law Practitioners' Act." These draft rules are annexed to j the report. (2) These rules will require to be made by the Judges of the Supreme Court. (3) A Statute will also havo to bo made by the University authorising examinations and the issue of certificates. (4) The fees that can be charged for examinations are fixed by " The Law Practitioners' Act, 1852." They are :— (1) For each 'examination in general knowledge of barrister or solicitor, £2 2s j (2) For each examination in law of a barrister, £ 5 5s Od ; (3) For each examination in law of a solicitor, £2 23 Od ; (5) The Committee are of opinion that these fees, if paid to the University, should suffice for the examinations. (6) The Committee also annex to the report a draft statute to be passed by the Senate. Legal examinations statute : (1) Candidates for the legal profession may be examined by the University. (2) No fees shall be required for such examination other than those prescribed by the 1 " Law Practitioners' Act, 1882." (3) Certificates shall be issued to candidates specifying the examination which they have passed. (4) That Chancellor may, on the request of any judge of the Supreme Court, fix special examinations for such candidates, at such times and places as may be required by a judge of the Supreme Court. Rules and regulations under " The Law Practitioners' Act, 1882 :" By virtue of the powers vested in us by law, it is oi'dered by us, the Judges of the said Court, that the following shall be the rules and regulations under the Law Practitioners Act, 1882 :—(1): — (1) Evei'y candidate for admission as a barrister or solicitor of the Supreme Court, not previously admitted elsewhere, shall give notice to the Registrar of the Court at the place where he intends to apply for admission, at least two months before the month of December in every year, of his desire to be examined, and shall state the nature of the examination that he proposes to submit to ; and shall at the same time pay the proper fee in respect of such examination. (2) Candidates may present themselves for examination both in law and general knowledge, or in law onty, or in general knowledge only, or they may split their examination for law as prescribed for candidates for the degree of LL.B., but if so split each examination must be considered a separate examination. (3) The examinations will be conducted by the University of New Zealand, and shall be held in the month of December at Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, and Dunedin, and at such other places as the number of candidates may warrant. (4) Candidates for admission as barristers who have been previously admitted as barristers in any superior or Supreme Court in any part of Her Majesty's dominions shall give two months' notice of their intention to apply for admission, and shall, as soon as conveniently may be thereafter, be examined only as to their knowledge of the law of New Zealand so far as it differs from the law of England. The judge in any judicial district may specially appoint times and places for the examination of any such candidates, and the examination shall be conducted by the examiners appointed by the University for the special subject. (5) Candidates for admission as barristers who shall have taken a degree in arts, science, or law from some University or other body in any part of Her Majesty's dominions, which has or hereafter may havo power by law to grant such a degree shall be examined only in law. (6) All other candidates for admission as barristers shall be examined in law and general knowledge. (7) Solicitors on the roll who shall apply after the 15th day of September, 1883, to be admitted as barristers shall pass the examination in general knowledge provided by Rule 8, and shall pass the examination in Jurisprudence, Constitutional History, Roman law, International law, and Conflict of Kws, required for barristers under Rule 9. (8) The examination in general knowledge for candidates for admission as barristers, and for candidates for admission as solicitors who are by law required to pass the barristers' examination, shall be the Junior Scholarship Examination required by the New Zealand University, and a candidate must pass with credit such examination, or he must pa? 3 the first examination for the Degree of Bachelor of Law?. (9) The examination in law for candidates for admission as barristers shall be the law subjects required for the LL.B. degree in the New Zealand University, namely :—: — (I) Jurisprudence and Consiitutional History. (2) Roman Law. (3) International Law and Conflict of Laws. English Law in New Zealand. (4) Contracts and Torts. (5) Real and personal property. (6) Evidence. (7) Criminal law. (8) Equity. (9) Statute law in Ne v Zealand. (10) Practice and procedure of the courts in New Zealand. (10) Candidates for admission as solicitors who have been admitted as solicitors in any superior or Supreme Court of any part of Her Majesty's dominions shall be examined.in law, including the law of New Zealand in so far as it differs from the laws of England. For this class of candidates there shall be two papers : one in law generally, the other in the law of New Zealand in so far as it differs from the law of England. The examination shall be conducted by the examiners appointed by the University. (II ) Candidates for admission as solicitors who have taken a degree in arts or laws or science from some University or other body in any part of Her Majesty's dominions which has or hereafter may have power by law to grant such degrees shall be examined in law only. (12) The examination in general knowledge for candidates for admission as solicitors shall be the matriculation examination of the New Zealand University. (13) The examination in law for candidates for admission as solicitors shall be the law subjects prescribed for the LL.B Degree of the University, omitting jurisprudence, constitutional history, Roman law, international law, and conflict of law. (14) Every candidate for admission, either as a barrister or solicitor who jshall produce a certificate emanating from "the" proper authority that he has E>assed any examination in general knowledge to be passed - by candidates for admission as solicitors in England or Ireland or as law agents in Scotland, or that he has passed an examination either at the University of New^ Zealand, or any University in Great Britain, Ireland, or the Australian colonies, or at any college or institution affiliated to or connected with any such University, or who has passed the New Zealand Senior Service examination, and who shall prove to the satisfaction of a judge » the Supreme Court that such examination comprised any subject or sub-

jectis corresponding with any of those hereby prescribed for thegeneral knowledge examination, shall be excused from being examined in such subject or subjects. (15) The age of all candidates for admission must appear on affidavit, (16) A barrister or advocate previously admitted elsewhere must produce to the Judgo of the district to whom he applies for admission his admission, or some certificate or other document, duly verified, proving his admission and make an affidavit that ho is the person named therein, and was admitted as therein stated. 17) E\ery candidate for admission as a barrister or solicitor who claims to be entitled, as a graduate of some University, to be admitted after an examination in law only, shall produce his diploma, or some duly - authenticated certificate or other documentary evidence of his having taken a degree, with an affidavit verifying the same, and proving his identity with the person mentioned in such document. (18) Every candidate for admission as a solicitor who claims to be entitled to be admitted on the ground of some previous admission elsewhere must produce documentary e\idence of such admission purporting to emanate fromproperauthority.and an affidavit vesifying the same, and proving his identity with the person namod therein. (19) Every candidate before being admitted shall produce evidence of his good character to the satisfaction of the Judge to whom he applies for admission. (20) A sum equal to the examination fees paid under the "Law Practitioners' Act, 1882," by candidates shall bo paid over to the University of New Zealand to defray the expense of examination. (21) Duplicates of all notices of candidates for examination shall be at once forwarded by the Registiar of the Supreme Court receiving the same to the Registrar of tho University. The Committee havo further to recommend that the following gentlemen be appointed examiners for two years : — (1) Contracts and torts. F. Fitchett, Esq., M.A., LL.D. (2) Real and personal property. P. Levi, Esq., M.A., LLB. (3) Evidence. J. Macgregor, Esq. , M. A. (4) Criminal law. J. C. Martin, Esq., Crown Prosecutor. (5) Equity. J. H. Salmond, Esq., M.A.,LL.B. (6) Statute Law of Now Zealand. <]. Tole, Esq., LL.B. (7) Practice and procedure of Courts. Martin Chapman, Esq. The Examiners for (1) Jurisprudence and constitutional history ; (2) International law and conflict laws ; (3) Roman law, are at present appointed in England, but the committee believe that in two years examiners in these subjects (save for the LL.D. degree) should be appointed in New Zealand. The report was agreed to.

Medical Gouk.se. — The following report of the Committee on the medical coiu-se and the Gilchrist scholarship was considered :—: — The Committee find that in the cases of A. Hendry, E. J. Roberts, J. A. Newell, \V. Buteman, R. H. Hogg, J. Torrance, J. F, Menzies, their certificates and the reports of the examiners show that these students have complied with the requirements ot the Statutes ; and recommend that they be declared to have passed the first professional examination. They find that in the case of G. E. Fooks, W. H. Chappie, P. R. Cook, W. Hislop, W. J. Mullin, J. H. Reid, the ceititicates and the reports of the examiners show that these students have complied with the requirements of the Statutes ; and recommend that they be declared to have passed the second professional examination. They find that George Andrew Copland, Herbert Clifford Barclay, and Thomas Dermer have satisfied the requirements of the Statutes, and have passed the third professional examination ; and report that they are entitled to be admitted to the degiee of M.B. The Committee have to report receipt of an oiiicial communications from which it appears that graduates of the New Zealand University are recognised by the General Council, under the " Medical Act, 1886," as entitled to be enrolled on the medical registrar as colonial practitioners : and they recommend that this fact be gazetted and notified in the calendar. The Committee have carefully considered the petition forwarded by the medical students. They find that it embodies two requests :—(I): — (I) That there be two medical examinations each year. (2) That the preliminary medical examination of the Otago University shuuld be recognised as entitling to registration for the New Zealand degree. In regard to the first of these requests your Committee find that it is not in agreement with the practice of the Home Universities, and that it would involve an expenditure out of all proportion to the fees received up to the present time, and therefore recommend that it be not granted. In regard to the second request, j your Committee are of opinion that it should be declined, as it is not desirable that any examinations, exceptsuchasareprovided for by the statutes ad eiindem, be recognised. The Committee beg to submit the following list of names, from which the medical examiners may be selected by the Chancellor, namely :— Doctors M. Coughtrey, W. H. Maunsell, D. Colquhoun, W. S. Roberts, R. G. Macdonald, E. W. Alexander, F. J. Macdonald, I. De Zouche, F. M. Hocken, F. Ogston, A. T. Ferguson, F. C. Batcholor, W. Brown, and Professor Scott. They recommend that the fee of £5 be paid for each examination (including the oral a3 well as the written part of it), and when the candidates are over twenty in number an allowance of fiv-e shillings be made for each oral examination conducted. In response to che communication addre&sed to other Universities for admission of medical students ad cundem, definite answers have been received from Dublin and Cambridge. Dublin declines, as by its statutes it requires graduation in arts previous to graduation in medicine. Cambridge has agreed to include our University in the list of colonial schools which it recognises. The communication states that " of the five years which must be pas&ed in medical study by a candidate for a Degree in Medicine or Surgery two may be spent in the Colleges of the University of New Zealand, three years at least being spent in residence at Cambridge." Students who propose to take advantage of this privilege are advised to have their certificates of attendance on lectures in New Zealand duly attested in a specified form communicated. As the number of medical students is rapidly increasing, and the business in connection with them in danger of becoming complicated, the Committee recommend — Ist, that the names of registered medical students and the terms they have kept be published in the Calendar in a separate list ; 2nd, that henceforth there be kept a much more minutely detailed medical register, capable of immediate reference for ascertaining the course of each student. Your Committee have inquired into the facts bearing on the petition of a medical student to be allowed to pass the first professional examination, and recommend that the petition be not granted. In reference to the Gilchrist scholarship, the Committee recommend thatitis inexpedient to make any formal' application at present, and that the matter be left in the hands of the Chancellor to take such steps during the recess as he may deem advisable, to have the benefits of the scholarship continued to the' colonies. The report was considered by the Senate in committee. On resuming resolutions were passed agreeing to the first three clauses of the report.

Ib was also agreed " That the recognition of the New Zealand graduates by the General Medical Council of Great Britain be gazetted and notified in the Calendar." Clauses 5, 6 and 7 of tho report were agreed to, as were also clauses 8, 9 and 10.

Graduates from Foreign and Colonial Universities. — The> Senate next considered the report of Che Committee on applications for admission to ad euvdem dogrees. The recommendation was as follows :—": — " That a Committee be appointed to considor during the recess the whole question of admission ad eundem of graduates from foreign and colonial Universities, not included in the list of Clause 2, eh. iii. ('Statute admission ad etindem'); and to ascertain as far as possible how far any privilege granted will be reciprocated. Such Committee to consist of — The Chair man, the Vice-Chancellor, most Rev. Dr. . Red wood, Rev. MrHabens, Dr. McGregor." An amendment was moved by Sir R. Stout "Thai Robert Bradford Williams, of Yalo University, United States of America, bo admitted to tho ad eundem degree of 8.A." This was carried by eight to three. The recommendation of the Committee was also agreed to,

Dentistry. — The Senate next dealt with bhe following roporb of the Committee on the course in dentistry: — The Committee are of opinion thab bhe weight of evidence is adverse to the decision recorded in the minutes of 1887, p. 51, and therefore recommend that the i*egulations remain for the present as they are printed in the Calendar. The Committee further recommend that a copy of Dr. Coleman's letter to the Chancellor be sent to tho Dentistry Board, with a request for advice as to the means of affording the instruction in dental science required by Dr. Coleman's scheme. — Tho report was agreed to.

Tkrms anj> Lecture. — The Senate consideied the following report of tho Committee on the statute " Teims and Lectures," section IV. s< The Committeo recommend that the words "in any year," and the words " during the jear " be omitted from tho statute of Terms and Lectures, section IV." It wasresolved that thereport be agreed to, and that in lieu of the words, " divring the year," the words "subsequent by to matriculation he has both be inserted, and that the statute be amended accordingly.

MB. Degree.— lt was resolved, "That Georgo Anderson Copland, Herbert Clifford Barclay, and W. T. Dermer be admitted to the degree of M.8."

New Statutes. — The Senate went into committee to consider Bills for new statutes, and on resuming agreed to pass the following Bills : - (1) To amend the statute "Junior Scholarships," (2) to amend the statute "Senior Scholarships," for a new statute regarding the course in law, (4) to amend the statute "Terms and Lectures." The third reading of these Bills was made an Older of the day for today.

The Senate mob ab 10 a.m. to-day Presenb: The Chancellor (in the chair), the Vice-Chancellor, Rev. RJr Habens, Prof. F. D. Brown, Prof. Cook, Prof. Shand, Rev. Dr. Salmond, Righb Rev. Dr. Cowie, Sirß. Stout, SirG. M. O'Rorke, Rev. MiBruce, Pi of. J. M. Brown.

Agmcultueal Science. — Rev. J\hHabens brought up for consideration the report of the committee on the encouragement of agricultural science. — This and other reports were made orders oi the day for Friday.

Pass Degree ok the University-. — Sir Robert Stout gave notice that on an early day next session he would move " That it be referred to a Committee to consider (I) Whether the pass degrees of the University could not be put on a more satisfactory fooMng and a specialisation of studies permitted such a 9 (a) a classical course, including Latin and fjiieek as compulsory subjects ; (b) a literary course, to have two languages in addition to English, compulsory ; (c) a philosophical course, having mental and moral scion cc political science, and advanced general history, compulsory; (r/) four or more courses in science, having special branches in science, such as physical science, chemical science, science applied to industrial arts or agriculture, natural science, made compulsory ; (c) A musical course, making music and its history and scientific subjects bearing on music compulsory ; ( / ) A law course, similar to the present LL.B., course; (q) a course dealing with pedagogy. (2) The degrees as specified mightbe thus named : (a) Bachelor ot Arts ; (b) Bachelor of Literature ; (c) Bachelor of Philosophy ; {d) Bachelor ot Science ; (c) Bachelor of Music ; if) Bachelor of Law; (q) Bacholorof Pedagogy. (3) For honours in the above subjects, or for a higher examination, the degrees of Master and Doctor could be granted."

Academical Dress. — On the motion of the Rev. Dr. Salmond, a Committee was • appointed to consider and report on Mr Chilton's letter regard ing academical dress.

Candidatis Papers. — Tho Uommitteo recommended : (1) That the examiners be instructed to return the candidates' papers to tho Registrar of the Univeisiby, along with their report of the examination. (2) That the papers may be destroyed by order of the Chancellor immediately after the close of the first annual meeting of the Senate held after the examination. Sir Ilobt. Stout moved that the recommendations of the Committee be agreed to. The motion was negatived.

Bills fou New Statutes. — The following Bills were read a third time, and passed, and it was also resolved thab statutes be made in accordance with them. (1) ABillto amend the statute " senior scholarships." Clause 11. of the statute of senior scholarships is hereby repealed and the following enacted in lieu thereof: — II. — The senior scholarships shall be distributed as follows among the under-mentioned subjects or groups of subjects : — Latin and Greek, one scholarship ; Latin andEnglish,orLatin,and either French and German, one scholarship ; mathematics, one scholai'sbip ; experimental science, namely, physical 'science or chemistry, one scholarship ; natural science, one scholarship in either bio« logy or geology ; political science or mental sr-ience, one scholarship. (2) A Bill for a new statute in the " Course in Law." It is hereby enacted as follows : — Professional examination in law : (1) Candidates for the legal profession may be examined by the University. (2) No fees shall be required for such examination other than those prescribed by the "Law Practitioners' Act, 1882." (3) Certificates shall be issued to candidates specifying the examination which they have passed. (4) The Chancellor may, on the. request of any Judge of the Supreme Court, fix special examinations for euch candidates, at such times and places as may bo required by a judge of the Supreme Court. (3) A Bill to amend the statute " Terms and Lectures." Clause IV. is hereby repealed, and the following enacted in ieu thereof :—: — (4) No student shall be allowed to present himself for examination in any branch of •physical science, or of natural science, or of chemistry, either at the annual examination of an affiliated college or at the examination for the degree of Bachelor of Arts, or for the degree of Bachelor of Science, unless subsequently to matriculation be has both attended the regular course of instruction in the subject i

I at the affiliated College to which he is attached, and gone through a prescribed course of practical work in the subject. (4) A Bill to amend the statute of junior scholarships. Clause 6of section 111. is hereby repealed and the following is enacted in lieu theieof: — (6) Mathematics, (a) Arithmetic (the whole subject) and algebra, to quadratic equations inclusive also ratio, proportion, variation, the progressions, permutations, and combinations, (b) Euclid, books 1., 11., ]IL, IV., and VI., and plane trigonometry, to solution of triangles, inclusive, with easy transformations and examples. This statute shall not apply to the examinations of December, 1889.