MR. Wm. KELLY AT WAIOrongomai.

Te Aroha News, Volume V, Issue 219, 10 September 1887, Page 2

MR. Wm. KELLY AT WAlOrongomai.

Mu> Wm,- Kelly. addressed the Tauratigft electors in the Public. Hall, Wai orjngomai, on Thursday Ist' mat. The n\ ;eti&g|~waB_ ; ffinoun i ced for h-ftlf-paat sc yen, bnt it was nearly eight o'clock b( fore a start was Hiai|e\ There were alpout forty Dei;sons present. I On thi^Bifttjo^of ,Mr B^-narT-Mon-tdguG, Mr .SamL Snmrdon (Premier Hotel) waS VOTen*ft> the 'chair'; ami opened tho proceedings in a fuw remarks very appropriate to_tlie occasion. (Mr Kellys address was in many respect^ a^repititUm of the one dolivcred in Te Aroha the previous evening, and published in our columns last issue ; we tjherefbre purpose only reporting any |ddit'onal remarks inula on mattets Referred to in his Te Aroha addivss, and freah^stutepients, replies to questions, OtG.) , ( Mr Kelly said : If returned he would jbrge upon Government the necessity of jcompluting; Thompson's Truck, a work •which he thought ought to have been 'carried out long ago. Tho work should ,be stir ted from bolh ends. VYith respect to the Thames- IV Aroh'i • Railway, he c< maiden 1 1 thoir late momU'r (Mr J.B. Whyte), "had not don<> his 'duty in not get ting the work ?t»\rU-d nt (this end. However he presumed Governi ment. had their own reasons for not start ing the .work at this end" ! He would ♦ry to have the work staited From this end. In his opinion Government shonl 1 place from £30,000 to £50,000 on the estimabo^, in v order that the best available machinery might be introduced to extract the motal from the quartz. ..- In 1868-9 the population of the Colony was less and the taxation greater, and tho depression worse than at proscnt. Then a poll tax hail to, be enforced for E]d«cation /-As regards taxatioti,-> Uei jv^s Miy faf onl' of a J^and and' Income Ta^ in preference to a Property Tax. At the present time professional' men, Itjaorja,' ali^T ofeh'GJa'fci&daped ta^a-, tion. ' : -I xl I i] fh\ ; ' , EeFerrii^y to^the.. question of Land Settlement, MrKelly "repeated the stated ment made atl^eflArToUa the previous evening, viz., that Sir Robert Stout had stated "although £#0,000 to £70,000 'Sf riaoil'rlies ji rnay hav-e been bntereJ^jnto 'iindef-i th© --iViilljßgo SeMteroent Sc^ieme^ iofli^ £^()OPi hai^ypt; beep spent, an.d. Mp Keljj aj^Jedj, j"^Sj«ppoaing, the sottlers d^ t aL^ tho ' clearing and improving in 'the/ m-st yeai^it 4 \yqqM ' only come 'to iWfiti&m «70,600; -and be cheap tp the Colony then." Later on .in his address he said^-referring to the existingland lg.^g o^tii«JyQl9iiy r :, Even the la\Vs tn YijfojyA Settlement oan $c greatly TmproyefJ ; r they all need gr'eit kalteratlcui-.xiiul. improvement ; and tlje -I^9t time he sa\^ t J^ : Ballanbe vap^^^'ua, he discussed;. tlJeT'^ue^l^o^^a the native^Tan^^JfrW^jrwiibh l^hin^^jlie (Mr Balbmce), ,sogpiea. incfmea'lro*inal?e an alteimionT ~H."B^was akairman of Nativo affairs in the House (o£ five|y§ars,^d conpjfered the natives were asirell arne to take care »of ftielnselves as we are, and Native lands should '"beja^l [^^ej^asH^urop^K^* 1 !'' 8 were. *"* " v/ ' I Mif^Kelly eulogistic terfma to ttle* Te 'Aroha district, and sai.d. " Hero you have as I ride through nie~-pastoral, agrtcultuNK and commercial interests — and rthe $Wtf##Rffe hljrsXtT Sdly/d^elobed -HihWi-^flaMniously blended r together. " JV|r Kelly waslapplaueilß -oii ■ r^s^i¥^lils saat. ! ; - i ,, i

i ..- r r .QißipyioNs. | S!sS%e^h«uwiWi?^baviag'»r'declAr9<i ] the meeting opjßJi^foj^any person wishing to askJMr.JKe]JXanyjluestions, the following AvereKthen ,put and answered : — .™ ITOT, r ' i .a .if . ; i ! (1) What is the present cost of; the Civil Service.td the Cblony?. "j ; ' Answer .oi-Yery nearly; £2,ooo^ooo. i ' t (2X Are r you in iayour of Vaile's Railway Scheme ? ''* "• : ' A nS ' i , t j Ans" wer >:F: F "YesVi ? ,'ij "t" t i ' f " '* (3) Give a rough idea how you propose to reduce the cost of the Civil Service so as to save, several hundred thousand pounds. T5 Answer: You could take.a per centage off

a}) wmnfj, no{ B°™g below d^2Qo, ' In the Defence Department a large , saving J go did be majle. say £100,000, or JEB0 t OOO. (Question :/ Does "the Defence Department belong to the Civil Service,?- Answer : Of^cVurae it does).' A big paving epuld be made, in the Native p)epartmen,t \ gome i £Bp,o*Qo' was Vso voted for ' the Marine Department, and a big saving might be effected there. ' , (4) Would you be in favour that all children after passing the fourth standard nhould be paid for ? Answer : No. Education should not be interfered with in any way (5) Would you be in favour of the Legislative Council being an elective body ? S -„ Answer : Yes. (6) Are you in favour of further borrowing ? Answer: I am in favour of further borrowing for any other reproductive woiks, and to finish those in hand (7j~WhaUa the present cost of education! of th,e Qalony (* Answer : (Read from Estimates). £371,602 11s lid. The only reduction that could be made in. th}s department would be in connection, with the central offices, and the doing away with a number of plerks. (8) Are you in favour of the " honorarium " being reduced,, and free railway passes to members being d,one qway with. Answer : I am not. (0) At To Aroha last night you stated from £400,000 to £500,0.001coti Id be saved on the estunuteß alone. Will yon, show us how ; giving the figures approximately in each department, as the matter is one of great interest just now ? Answer : Mr Kelly, in replying to this question, which wa« pressed, road a list as follows : stating the reduction he would propose to make in each instance ;—; —

(10) Would you be in favour of the sale of the railways ? Answer : No. (11) Would you be in favour of a Bill hiicli as that Mr Fisher proposed, whereby brewers would, after a certain lapse of time, l>e debarred from owning public houses. Answer : No I don'c think Parliament h.is any right to interfere in such matters. (12) If the question is not objectionable b> you to answer, will j'ou inform those present as to what is your occupation ? (The Chairman said he did not consider it was a fair question. Questioner : If MiKelly is employed in an honorable calling, why shou'd he refuse to reply). Answer : I am a small farmer. (13) Can you give the meeting any idea as to the amount of money Government obtained from the Crown lands of the Colony, for the year ending March 31st hist. Answer • I could not. (14) Aro you in favour of the 'Frisco mail service being continued. Answer : 1 am. (15) Do you not think the present Government should rather have retrenched than increased the burdens of the people by further taxation, especially just at this time when there is ro much depression ? Answer : They have retrenched considerably evary year. (16) Would yon tiy and get subsidies for prospecting and lru«ks. Answer : Yen. (17) Will you do what you can to get lands in this vicinity thrown open by Government, for settlement by miners' and others ? Answer : 1 will endeavour to assist in getting any lands thrown open that you wish for. (18) Is it correct that under Mr Ballances Perpetual Leasing System that after thirty years the rent would be raised ? Answer ; Nothing in the Act says your rent will be raised. (19) ; We are then to understand that the re- valuing at the end of thirty yeara is simply for the purpose of informing the' owner of the value of his land ? , Answer ; I can see no other reason for it.' " ' ' (20) Are you a Free Trader or a Protectionist ? Answer ; A Protectionist, (21) Are you in favour of the Qold Duty being abolished ? Answer » I tun. In the course of his remarks Mr Kelly said lio had never read Sir George Grey's •propbsedlj'andAct over,had only seen about. itjin thepapers. He thought, however there was very little difference between it and •the PerpetutiLLeasing System in.trbu'u.ced by Mr Ballance. No more questions being forthcoming, Mr D. K.'-Yotin^ proposed a) vote of thanks to Mr Kelly, for his addreßS, seconded by Mr F, Booth. Mr L ,J3., Montague moved a.s nn amendment, That a vote of ' don'fideh'ce be accorded Mr Kelly, which was duly seconded, \; , On being put by the chairman about 2Q hands were b,eld.,up for tfye, amendment, and* only abouVlO- for the' resolution, tho amendment was therefore declared carried; and the proceedings were brought to a close by a vote of thanks to the chair. v

Department : Proposed Amount of vote. reduction. Legislative ... £17,391 £4,000 Uolouial Secretary ... 155,725 25,000 Colonial Treasurer... 48,05-i 4,000 Justice 117,184 20,-000 Postal 273,717 20,000 Commissioner of Trade an'l Customs ... 88,997 15,000 Commissioner of Stamps 30,506 5,000 Education 382,914 10,000 Native 20,104") Said should be done S. 20,000 away with altogether J Mines 31,713 Public Works ... 799,560 80,000 Defence 189,000 89,000 Lands 107,052 25,000 Totals ... £2,261,912 £317,000