HOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.

Otaki Mail, 4 August 1922, Page 4

HOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.

I I'UOTJJALL AMALGAMATION PROPOSAL. SCHEME TO BE DRAWN UP. A meeting ui delegates iiom ihe luuiliall duns in ilie HorowDemia Rugby Union's district was held in J .Levin on Tuesday Tor the purpose ol' | discussing’ the proposed amalgamation ui me Manawatu and llorowhenna Unions. Mr J. W. Drooler, vicepresident ui tire Union, presided in the absence of die president (Mr E. j Nash,, and the clubs represented were: P'koinaru, Snamtuii, Eoxluii, ! v\ anuen'i s, \\ei;*OU, Uoveis, I' 1 - rrei High School (Levin), Training Pann, Knl.u, Otal.i, Ilui.Wai, Otaki old Boys ami i 'araparaunm. Tiie ciiairman staled lire purpose i oJ the meeting was known in' die delegate, and die secretary would luriher outline Uie scheme. secretary (Mr L. S. Carmichael; then read t’ne proposals which bad peon circulated among the clubs loi consideration, as follows; (I; I ho combined Union to be culled the Munawatu-Horowhenuu Union. t'-i) Allocation of rep games; Two ol the combined games in the north to one j ijn uve south. (3) A similar insurance | scheme. (1; Annual general meet- i ings: To be lield in Palmerston mid i Levin alternately each year. (5) M- ; nance: Ail linance to be pooled, Mu- j uu.waiu having over U6uo. Uorowhenua about Lc’O, each division to work | on an imprest account tor the season, (k) Club fixtures: Each division to control Us own club iixtures as at present, the winning teams ol each crude in each division to play on alternately in the north and sondi. i Aii l*<iucil representation on «.tlK* i oinbined Union executive committee. Speaking to the proposals, Mr Larmichael stated dial the benefits were ilia; MaiiawuUt had UtiUU in cash, and w as arranging a lour of the South island next year if the amalgamation vvas brought about. The scheme w., 11 b 1 'diuw ui our players gelling i ; , ,,j ,_r football and coming under ,j... oV fs '.l the New Zealand selectors. liver with a larger number of rep. u A<T„'s as a result of the return maiches nom the South Island tour. Uules would be comiiiled to safeguard the llorow.licmia Union's mleresis. \j, \\ . Moynihan (Shannon : Whose „inj L ..i;tis a i e these ? i strmi'Tiael: 1 lorowhemia's. Ml I'. |). Whibley (l-'".\ton.: Are i.... i,. -my in writing from Manawam;Mr Larmiciiaei: No. .Mr v.hlhley considered it a mis have, called Die meeting uu;were proposals m put beiii from Manawatu. v,:’ f,i imstoiie (Shtuinoii; said ii was j,, iin* proposals that the rep. n.ateiies would hr played in each (i i *■ i j • j, ■; two in tliy no lo <»nt* in J}.,. -niiili. Would no! the New Zealand Union fix the location ol some m the mulches? The suggested arrangement would not. therefore, work Mi i iamiiehaei said lie took it Tc, smvcestioii applied to the manli-- ... in,-|, 11 combined 1 nioii< would !ia... fixing of the location. in reply to Mr H. Kaiauti Kuku Mr i.'.urmicliaei stated that ’lie Mu l -- 1 v. -pi; delegates came down to Uevn; • ~! , , ( | ’ ;| ■ ,a weeks ago. and the abo-e ! . ..,-ere p«> forward to Manawatu. Nothing wn- put in writmo- j.\- Manawatu. Mr Kaiauti asked what ground they gad to work on, seeing there was no ui espt mdence. Mr Carmichael explained that the Maiiagenieni Committee would imt • ake anything’ deliuite on its own shoulders, but decided to call the .W-ae-s together to see il there were miy "lut tlier” proposals loi thcounng. s -n r these had been considered they were to confer again with MauaTiic chan man, in reply to Mi -I- ! ci 1 col l iior W'eiaroa; saul he eonstdwed the riubs would be circularised a'ir"ahi alter this meeting to go m'“ funv further proposals made. Mr Guy 'ToUomarti.i thought tnc n r,ting ‘was going the wrong way Uie business. some proposal cnoiild he put before Tie meeting i,’,aiing on the iiuestion. so that 'bey v',. y Murrvatt Roys' Training p-arVn said in 'order to put the mat,,u a proper footing he would line.’,-; -That this meeting is in lavn'm oi an amalgamation with Manav _.video a suitable agreement •' ' „ t ,, with the Manawatu can lie i-oti.i ■- Union.” Tide was seconded by Mr Guy. Hie chairman said he took it ii an eerneut wa- come to between the r-‘T.i., n _. it would be submitted to the 'ui,- ' irt approval before being adopted. .Delegates: ICs. Mr McLean •Parapnrau.nm; said lu- . mb discussed the proposal the pre- '. ms evening, and were in favour u. ic There appeared to be nothing to and ail to gain by the anialgatnuiimi, and he and his fellow delegate v ~>,. instructed to vote l'or it. M; c.uy considered the Management committee made a mistake in no. having the Manawatu delegates then■T,airman said the combined Unions mm niche The Manawatu Union cm.- strong financially, having a fund; oi uCOir and it they had been represented Horowhenua would know exactly how the Manawatu delegates were inclined to the proposal. _ | \], Carmichael explained that when j .;, Manawatu delegates ‘tame to l.evia they stated they understood Ho- I rowhenua’s financial position, but | were quite prepared to go on. as they , considered great benefits would be j .rot bv raising Tie status of the combined'Union. MV would get first-class Unions to come here, which we have no chance, of doing at present, and pointed to the showing of the com- , Lined team against the Springboks. Mr M. Winiata (Levin) said Manawatu had asked for the Horowhenua proposals, as above, and these had j been accepted as agreeable to themThe chainnast We understood that

Manawatu brought some proposals, now it seems they are Horowhenua’s. Mr \V. Thomson (Weraroa) stated that the Manawatu Union had made inquiries, and the general opinion in Palmerston was that amalgamation, would be beneficial to iheir' district. The conditions were left to us to put before our delegates, a.-d were also taken back by Manawatu. He thought Manawatu’s offer was a good one, and it would practically mean that they would finance the southern tour next year. Neither Manawatu nor Horowhenua looked like rising to metropolitan status as they were, but this would be accomplished by combining, and give our players a chance they would not pet otherwise in big 1 football. Mr \V. Moyuihan complained again that the delegate- l-ad insufficient in- • for. .u t work on. like meeting should appoint a committee to go into , live matter. ; Mr Whibley maintained Unit Mana-1 watii shoitid have come along with a I definite scheme. It was hardly the thing for Uie Management Committee | to put the delegates to the expense of j coming to Levin to discuss its own proposals. Personally he did not think Manawatu would consider these proposals for a minute. The two Unions -should meet and draw up a scheme. He moved an amendment that the meeting regrets that the Management Cornmitiee should have called the delegates together without so me concrete proposals re the amalgamation scheme, and until scaiisthing is forthcoming in that direction the matter bet shelved. Mr Mason (Shannon) seconded the amendment lor the reason that the proposals before the meeting were not a business propostion in their present form. 'I lie Management Comniiuee should have met Manawatu arid Tunned a complete scheme. The si a i emeu i that Manawatu would put ci_;,in mi,, tiie scheme sounded all right, bin was Manawatu fishing lor something? Mr Grunstone thought some of the speakers were taking an uncharitable j view of Manawatu'? attitude, and until they got further information they' i should give Manawatu the benefit oi what it had done. .Hear. hear.) | :r ;;efib;u„mn i.Levin) said it ' was a big proposal, and the clubs should have had mote time to tliseuss it, so ;h,-it itie delegates could come i here and give l the leeliug ol t'heii .Tubs. However. Horowhenua had nothing to lose by the amalgamation, which. I l oin a business point of view, seemed all rigid. Mr Guy said he did not see why ihe two l nioris could mg draw up a M-heme and then sut'iuit it t« die 1 clubs. Mr ii. \\ . Percy Rovers remarked ihat lloiowhemni might have to go into Manawatu without any conditions at all. Mi i armiviiatT, nTeii'ing to Mr ivi.v's remark, read a letter from ihe Ni-w Zealand I iiimi. which slated that, i" make represeuiaiton on that liodv tio.n’e equitahie, it. might, be ne, e,sar.v lo make alterations in the buinufinies of districts, and merge one i niuti with another in cases where thic .was necessary. Mi Whibley did not consider llorowlienua would he wipeti out, seeing ihat the Union liad stated that five new Unions had recently been formed. Mr Mason inquired if Mr Jlarryatt s mo; ion meant the setting up of a commist.ee to meet! Manawatu and lorm a contract, and put the matter on a business basis. Mr Mairyott pointed out that his notion wa.; to find out- whethei the meeting favoured amalgamation or not. Other points could he left to the Unions. Mr Whibley: Manawatu should send proposals down. Mr W. Reran Ifui Mai) staled n Mr Whibley was acting in the interests of football he would have brought Hu- mat'er up at the Management Committee and put f i» concrete form. Mr Whibley: My mtluence on the Management Committee is as 7 to i s , 0 | \t the last two meetings tlie committee had other matters before ii. neplviiig to Mr Griuistone. Tie could challenge for the Ramurly shield. Mi Grun-lone: That brings our wotlialiers into the limelight, as it should be. I lie chairmun said 'his was no. the first amalgamation proposal with Manawatu. The Unions had combined several years ago. and had played a match, making a profi - ol L 3' 1 - ■[he next game was with Taranaki, but the Horowhenua players could not get av.av owing to ail epidemic sickness and Manawatu went alone. The scheme did not go any juvtiier. inn Horowhenua got no ihftt-e of the £3O. As regards the P !e - V’ent proposal, he would be sorry if Horowhenua lost prestige by it. He -v ,-r* • ; - \’ni ;.n.' should riii'i draft proposals for the delegates to Mr O'Connor said he had a further amendment to propose, winch he would submit alter ’he amendmen. had been disposed of. Mr Mason suggested that Mr u’Connor submit his amendment, as it might be a solution of the position. Mr O’Connor then moved that it be - L recommendation to the Management Committee of the Kugbv Union to set np a small committee to meet -ho -im”'Rtee of the Manawatu Umon dtaw up a definite scheme, to cum initted to all clubs m 4 * ’ the clubs to he given amp e t-- e discus; same. Thij was seconded by Mr *Mr Whibley thereupon withdrew his amendment, and M- r O Connor - proposition was put and carried.