HOROWHENUA REP. FIXTURES.

Otaki Mail, 17 July 1922, Page 4

HOROWHENUA REP. FIXTURES.

TO BE PLAYED IN DiSTKICT CENTHES. DECISION OF CLUB DELUCA TE*

i spec in 1 general meeting ol delegates oi toot ball elubs in the Ilorowhenua district was held in Levin |on 1 uesduy, by requisition of the . 1-oxtoii and shannon clubs, to consoler the localities in which home re-1 I present al l ve matches shall be played, , l flls ° forl|ie timending of a rule, and I 1° f’ a - s a new- by-law . There was a I | large attendance of delegates, the fol-' ! lowing clubs being represented: Shan- * ii" 1 1. I'o.\ton. Otaki, otaki Old Hoys j Uurapnraunm, Te I loro. 1-1 ui Mai, ' kukn. Wanderers. Hovers. Woraroa i and the Boys' Training Farm. Mr . • -hkisli. joesiilent of the liorowhenua I tug by I uion. pre-hteil. , Tilt, lil-itji ISITION. j f ile meeiing comineib-cd by Mr Car- * mict,act. the enmn secretary, leading tiie requisition ettiUng the meeting', w liich was as i'o'mwsl—iue um.lei -igned secretaries of I tlie I o.ytoti amt >u;innon Football t.luhs respect i■. ci\. request you :• con-

. ■ V'.'iif :i special gt-nei.u meeting ot tlie Hcrowheiimi ttugi.y Lnion for the con- , sideraiion m u,i* loljowiug business: To gi, c un ecitons to the Muiiageli.'i'iii It'jtiunittci ;i, to die localities ill •'.inch amne representative mulches . --hah be puiicd. . i jUwtid rule (J * t'.\ adding iiic i'.dbjw.iig words: No j.trsoii siKi.i tioid ,i sc., on tiie com"‘‘iiee win, is mi ae...0 player, and no club shau be rep; SsoiF.ed on the j.-ommitiee ny mole than one lnemi no*; .•>; ii' puss a new by-law as loiliWis: i.U: i lie management anu cuu!ll ‘ . 1 * 'he alia its cl the Lute a siiull lie m tiie iiauits of ihe Munugeiueni Fommiiiee, subject to nn,\ unection fedvi-ii to mem at any annual or spe- ' ctiil genetai meeiing. j tie amendment to me rules amt ly-taw.- as above .'"ill re proposed air i-. ]). \\ iiiblev, o. f'o.Mon, ami seconded f> Mr T. IJ. '.J. Mason, ot .''iiauljoh. ,s.,diedi Boole i .augn.cum, seci etary l o.'iton Fuotbali f.Hib. and i. Ll. .}. Mason, secreUiry gnumiun roor.mil Ctuh." t tie chairman said they would commence by taking No. l proposal. -dr \\ hiule\ saio tiie meotuig iiact b> on cum eucu by Luxtun and -siian-m-u decide wnui s.ejis -uouui be taken to combat the motion passed by the t niun tiiai all rep. matches shall be played in Levin, the clubs north anu south considered the motion passeu would kill iootbaii m tiie Ilorowlieuna uisiiici. 1. was not a lair tiling ■ tnat pc_ pie in Hi • outside districts should have to come to Levin to see a rep. match. A rep. mutch was a good tiling tor tiie town in winch it was played, and they should J. e distributed. We were not like Wellington, winch could centralise its big matches, there were iour towns, Le'in, ■'■Kiiiiii'ti, I uxtoti and outkt. and Mi were about tlie same size. i lie in* a that a bigger gate could he got ai Let iii than elsewhere was wrong, a,- last year Shannon provided a better gate than was ever taken ebsewheie. Ihe speaker quoted Taranaki am! liangitikei. They played in various towns in their unions. Wairarapa did tiie same tiling. The lioiuwiienua L 'uion also proposed 'dial rep. players had to assemble in Levin ai their own expense prior to a game. That was not right. It might be some expense io the I'nioii to bring over lire 1 "Xtoii platers, as they were off the line, but why should they be penalised tor that, and have to pay their way to a mate!). However, that could not be said ol .Shannon, which was convenient and on the line. Mr Whifaley iiten moved: "That it be a direction to the Management Committee that home rep. matches be played in tiie lour chief centres of the district—otaki. shannon. Levin and Foxton — in turn. and. iurther, that as three matches have been played in Levin this season, the Wairarapu match be played at Foxton. the Wanganui match at shannon, and either the .south Canterbury or Taranaki match, whichever is played first, he played at otaki."' Mr Mason, in seconding, approved of what Mr Whitney had -aid. It •seemed-tlie main- idea of playing in Levin was tlie gate, but that was not everything. He”took it that 'he management committee was mit to further 'he interests oi the game. He had witnessed the rep. game in Levin, and considered the Lnion would get just as big a gave in any of the other three centres. He referred to the benefit a rev,, match would be to a town from a business point of view, and remarked that the vice-presi-dents m shannon were business people, atui entitled to * unsideration tor their suppoii of the- game. He could see no reason foi the- Management Committee passing the : < solution mat all rep. games should he played in Levin, and had pleasure in supporting the motion. Mr Carmichael did not agree with some of the statements made by Mr Whildey. Only two I.evjn men were in the last rep. team. The position was. the Union could not afford, to par the expense of ail the outside men coming to Levin. In years gone fay players selected for rep. honours would travel anywhere to represent thetr Union. He referred to the various grounds. Foxton, for instance, had no dead-faali-line. A voice: The best ground in the Union. Mr Carmichael said he had no doubt the gates at Foxton. Shannon or elsewhere would !*? as good as .Levin, but there would be more expense .in playing on those grounds a* none

ere as central. They had' ip cun- b ider, also, those wlio donated tro- h liies'. Both the Bebbingon Shield u nd Championship Cup were given by e\ in supporters. 1 LEVIN GATES NEGLECTED. v Mr Williams (Foxton) staled that t ■ hen rep. matches were played away roin Levin, the local gates were let i nuttended and nothing collected. 'hat was .bud management. r Mr Carmichael explained tiiai last t -aturday ween was very wet, and athough arrangements were made lor ] .ttendance they were not carried out. , is far as Weraroa was concerned, the 'round was being improved, and was , [uite open' lu everyoue. i\lr Robinson (Foxtoni: It is not only , „evin that gives trophies. Mr.CoJey , if Foxton, gave a cup. He supported - lie statement of want ol attention at lie gates at the Levin grounds. Mr W. Hannan Levin' rose, to a joint ol' order. They were hot, there to discuss gatekeeping. A WUHL) FOB SHANNON. .Mr w. Moynihun •Shannon ashed who was ie=poiuibis lor ilie laying out of the diltercnt grounds. The chairman sa.u lie nad seen to that pi-.soiiaily. Air Moymhau considered the main 1 point was tiie unequal dislribuliun ol rep, games. In me old day.-, of ilie cess. Levin was a very nice place, but not the metropolis of New ZeuasKed last year im a rep. game m Union there used 10 be home and home matches at Mauultau and Levin, .•no occasionally at o.aki. He had was play eu at rsnunnon Ijc was sure it would not. be a financial loss, shannon, and it was a financial suclund. Finance .was not everything, and in any case if another rep. game Mr W. Bevan Hui Mai, ashed why a rep. game was not pul on lor Manakau. For years tlui Mai liad been the backbone oi tins district, lie considered, however, that the rep. matches should be played in the centre, .which was Levin, and lie was prepared to support Levin. THE FINANCIAL VIEWPOINT. Mr \V. Hannan considered a lot had been made ol the gate at shannon. A rep. game had been played at Foxton, but nothing was said about, that. lle would like to Know. [ Mr Carmichael: £lO Id. was the f'■rl.lt*

Mr Whibley: 1; was Ihe most mij important match that has been playled in this district for years. Mr Hannan said it seemed to him | that Mr Whibley was wanting to gel the rep. matches played in Foxton and ! Shannon. Why leave Manakau out. -He thought the Management Committee .quite juslilied in looking at matters Horn a linancial point ol view, and as for players having to pay their way to Levin, teams had gone away as far as Taranaki in past years and paid their own expenses. Levin was the natural centre, and it. was better and more convenient to play rep matches here. As far as the grounds were concerned, the .’shannon ground was not a good one on a wet day. Foxton was a good wet-day ground, but hud not the conveniences that were in Levin. He refeired to a statement bv Mr Wliiblev ai a Union

meeting 'hat it Foxton was not given a rep. game it would withdraw from , the Union. That was hardly the j right spirit, and he characterised Mr Whibley'* statement as bluff. Mr Crystal!, Levin ■: Wanderers, considered none oi the speakers lor the motion had considered the inter- ■ ests of the public. Hear, hear. • They could no; expect people to navel great distances to see rep. games. Levin was the centre and the games should be played here for the convenience ol players and spectators. The Paraparaumu delegate said the people in his district would appreciate a game near to them, but did not know how it would affect, the Union financially. Mr .1. BelTbington Wanderers said the representatives on the Management Committee expiessed the opinions ol die club* they represented. Ii seemed m him that the thought behind Mr Whibie.v's motion was agam.~: Levin and nothing more. Mr Whibley raised the point ol the shannon grounds topping the poll as reguidtite takings. Did they tealiy eclipse Levin? Another speaker .-aid the Levin grounds weie badly managed. Why was tint' not raised at the Union meetings? In any case Levin must be better than .Shannon when it could nearly touch Shannon and yet lose money by bad management at the gates. A Foxton delegate objected to the word "bluff" and .-aid their delegates were not there to bluff, hut to represent their public arid player.-. .STABILISING bill. FINANCES. Mr W. Thomson Levin, said Mi Wnibiey wa- wiulig in saying die resolution was to pm> ali matches in Levin in die limn* and asked that die resolution be lead. The tesoludoii vu~ "d;.v ali jep. mutches be pda veil m Levin." Mr The •m.son - oinended that the motion only reieri ed to die present season. He reminded the meeting that Just year the Union came out very badly ftiiaiiciallv and it was decided to do ail possible tins -i-a.-on to improve the nuances, when Mr Whibley raised die question Jus: he did no; ask lot a mat'll to: Shannon, but Foxton only. Now it was shannon and Foxton. Mi Whibley questioned the state- j mein. -Mr Thomson said Mi Winbiey could not get away ironi the fact and* hie ac- j tion in saying Foxton would puli out j if it did not 'get a game was not, the ! action they would expect from supper- ; lei’s oi tfie Union and game. The mo-, tion was a bogey raised by Mr White j ley. The Union was doing a wise j thing in stabilising its finances this j year and playing the rep. matches in I Levin for this season. Mr ilasoii raised a point of order j that die p-evioiis -peaker had spoken i before. J The Chairman: He was not speaking j to the motion. ' i Mr Giimsrone Shannon drew attention to the ;c.t that ali clubs were not \ represented in the Union as stated. He j asked what were the receipts of the Wednesday rep. match with Raagitikei in Levin. Mr Carmichael: £l4 2 ?. The Chairman staid the speakers were a little astray in one respect in that when the big gate was taken at Shannon the boom was on. There was not the same money about now but at! the same the Levin gates had improved ,'ince then. The Chairman explained that 'oniv { one rep. match had bee" played so tar j ux Levin this season. The Beobingtou i .•shield matches were played here !■? ; cause ol the conditions under wni -n j the Shield was given. I Mi W. Moymhan -a:J it was unde: [ stood the ma'ch with the Maori team j was practice, also that according to the ! rules under winch the Bebbiagtort , Shield was donated the games were to j be played here so long as the Shield was held by Horowhenua. That ended the discussion on the motion. MB WHIBLEY'S MOTION CARRIED. Mr Whibley having replied the motion was put and the' voting was even —ls votes for and against.' An Otaki delegate then stated a Te Horo representative had not voted as he had arrived late and had not put in his proxy. Levin delegates pointed out that according to the rules the proxy should have been in before the meeting commenced. otherwise the delegate was barred from voting. They asked that the rule be adhered to. Mr Wilson (Otaki) explained that a

break-down in the car had caused tire late arrival of the delegate. It was no fault of his own. The Chairman- said he would accept the proxy and allow the delegate to vote. On a division ilie motion was carried bv 17 to 11. OTIIEH PROPOSAL'S WITHDRAWN In introducing tlie second proposal Mr Whibley said it was passed at a meeting of the Union last year but there was no record of it. Mr Carmichael, on referring to the minutes, found that the motion was on ilie books. Mr w hibley thereupon withdrew the second and third motions. Mi Thomson raised tlie point that rule of ilie Union and would require a the motion was really cutting into a two-thirds majority before it could be passed. Mr Wliiblev said no rule was affected. He moved a Vole of ihariks io the chair which closed the meeting.