PARLIAMENT.

New Zealand Times, Volume XXXIII, Issue 5488, 29 October 1878, Page 2

PARLIAMENT.

LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Monday, October 28. The Hon. the Acting-Speaker took the chair at 2.30 p.m. TUB HON. THE SPEAKER. A message-was read from the Hon. the Speaker, acknowledging receipt of a- messaga from the Council granting him extended leave of absence. ■ ELECTORAL Bat,. The repprt of the managers of the conference on this Bill was brought up. It was to the effect that of the four points in dispute—the qualification of voters, miners 1 rights and • leasehold, number of votes, and the Maori vote,—the three first it was recommended the Council should give way upon. On the last—the Maori vote—it was considered that there was no probability of any agreement being arrived at. Ihe Hon. Colonel WHITMORE desired to know if other managers could bo appoint© 1, and a further attempt at agreement made. Rethought the conference had not made its meaning clear, and that the country should * know the reasons of difference between the two Chambers. .After soma farther discussion it was moved that the result of the conference should bo communicated to the of Representatives. The Hon, Dr. POLLfcJN warmly requested the Council to take every step in this matter with scrupulous care after the speech of the Colonial Secretary. Ho moved that the debate should be adjourned till 7.30. After a short speech- from Mr.. Hall, in which he supported the original motion, and said he wished to see the »ssue between the two branches of the Legislature placed in' a clear and unmistakable light, Dr. Pollen withdrew his amendment. It was then agreed that a message should be sent to the House of Representatives informiug them that the Council did not insist on any of its amendments in the Electoral Bill except that in clause 17 relative to. the qualification of Maori electors. , / DISQUALIFICATION BILL. The report of the conference on this BUI was brought up and read,—The Hou, Dr. Pollen explained the report, and moved; that it be printed.—After a discussion, the Hon. Colonel Whitmore hoped the ouncil would agree with the report of the m&nag re, and the motion was agreed to LOCAL BILLS. Rep -rta ou several local Bills w.-re brought up and read, papers. Several papers were laid on the table by command of the Governor. BILLS FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Several measures were brought in from the House of Representatives, and read a first time. THIRD READINGS. The New Plymouth High School, Waikato Crown Lauds Ashburton High School, *nd Oamaru Market Reserve Bills were read a third lime and p issed. RAIL WAT" CONSTRUCTION BILL. The second reading of this Bill was moved by the Hon. Colonel Whitmore. He was advised that the measure was an Appropriation Bill. The Bill was introduced with the view of preventing a scramble for railway*. (Laughter.) • - . Before the debate proceeded, the Hon. Mr. Wilson desired to hare the ruling of the Speaker whether the Bill was an Appropriation one or not.—Sir I). Bell, quoting from May and Cushing, said that the principle laid down showed that the present measure was distinctly not an Appropriation BUI. He quoted precedents in support of hi« statement, and said if it were not so there would be nothing whatever to prevent the Lower Chamber putting an appropriation clause in any measure, and so prevent it being altered in the Upper House. Sir Dillon spoke at some length on the subject. The Hon. the ACTING-SPEAKER said, so far as he could see at present, the Bill was not an Appropriation Bill ; but if this was disputed, he would take farther time to consider i the’matter. . The debate then proceeded, it being understood that Major Richmond would give his decision at the evening sitting. . ’ - The Hon. Mr. WATERHOUSE said the Bill was still open to very serious objections. Though professing to be in accord with, the Act of 1876, it entirely overrode the provision of that Act which made it necessary to state specifically what line was to be constructed. He thought the proposals of the Bill were speculative, and that, seeing previous experience, they should be on their guard. Where were the plans that should precede the construction of these lines t He thought the Council should not sanction the construction of these lines until they had 'much more definite information before them as to the prospect of the lines being remunerative. He could not vote for the second reading until he saw that, the same prudential precautions had been taken as were in the Act of 1870. Mr. Waterhouse concluded by moving that, in the opinion of this Council, inquiry, reports, and surveys necessary to the construction of. any railway should be mado prior to its authorisation by a special Act. • The Hon. Mr. HALL could not agree with the amendment, but would support the second reading The Hon. Mr. Robinson would also vote for the second reading, and the Hon. Mr, Wilson shortly supported the Bill,—Tho Hon. Sir F. O. Bell supported the view taken by Mr. Waterhouse. He. would go further and say that he regretted that this Bill was the outcome of the Public Works Statement,which he regarded as a statesmanlike one. Proceeding, the speaker indicated the alterations he he would propose in committee. Sir Dillon's address was interrupted by the dinner adjournment, “ , SHEEP BILL.- ; * A message was received from the Governor, recommending certain amendments in thU BUI, which were agreed to. RAILWAY CONSTRUCTION BILL, At the evening sitting Sir D. Bell continued. In the face of the extreme views of tho democratic party in Victoria it was never pro- * posed that the Legislative Council there should be even naked to appropriate money for railways without having the details before them for consideration. No contract should be entered iuto without surveys being first mado. After a few farther remarks Sir O. Bell concluded by saying that he should support tho second reading of the Bill, After some remarks from tho Hon. Captain Fraser on the position of the Shag Point Coal Company, The Hon. GEORGE BUCKLEY said there was no principle In the Bill,—no check, no safeguard. If the Council once, passed this Bill they entirely put the matter out of their hands, and in future a sum would simply bo put in tho Appropriation Act, and the Council would have no control whatever. Proceeding, ho criticised the appropriations ; ho showed the large proportion that was devoted to Otago. He could not understand why Otago had such a largo share—on what basis it was calculated. (An hon. member: Votes.] Otago, he considered, was buying an enormous i and unfair share. The two main linos—from * Wellington, to Auckland, and from Nelson to tho Bluff—should bo the first constructed ; but instead, they were having branch lines mado in this, that, and the other direction. He would vote for the amendment of Mr. Waterhouse. The Hon. Dr, POLLEN, said ho would not trouble the Council with many remarks. Mr. Buckley had shown in an admirable manner tho Legislative view of the subject. Ho (Dr, Pollen) would support the amendment. The Hon. Dr. GRACE said the effect of this Bill would be shortly this,—for-a year or two they would have ; some money, and it would be spent chiefly in Otago. In a year or two they would have no money, and there would be no more railways. The action of the Government was unfair. The whole" drift of the Bill was to centre expenditure in tho Middle Island,: II they (the Council) ueg-

lecUd their duty »f supervision, 'the'colony would sorely rue it. The Council was iu an admirable position to hold the balance* not being subject to the nagging of constituents and the worry to which members were subject elsewhere. He would aric the Council to pause before they placed such power in the h nds of any Government. It was impossible for the Government to resist the temptations to which they would be subject under this Bill. He would oppose the measure. The Hon. Mr. GRAY was of opinion that this measure was hot a Bill fop the construction of railways in New Zealand* but was rather a Bill for the making of Hues in the provincial district of Otago. The Hon; Dr. MENZIES would vote for the second reading in the hope that the Bill would be amended in committee in such a manner as that the Council would have an opportunity of seeing tho surveys and details of each line before it was asked to assent to it. At this stage* the Hon. tho ActingSpeaker, in answer to Mr. Wilson, said it was not possible for him to give his ruling on the question whether tho Bill was an Appropriation Act or not until he had time to consult ■ authorities. He would therefore delay hia decision until next day. Mr. WILSON then moved the adjournment of the debate* which was agreed to by the ' casting vote . of the Acting-Speaker, the numbers being 15 to 15. DISQUALIFICATION ACT. The Hon,' Dr, POLLEN moved tho adoption of tho report of the conference on this Bill.—The Mr. Waterhouse did not think the Council saw clearly the effect of what it was asked to do. He would vote against the adoption of tho report. After a short discussion the report was adopted. HARBOR BILL. Certain amendments were made in the Bill by message from the Governor, NELSON HARBOR ACT. , The reasons of the House of Representatives disagrseiag with amendments in the Bill were read. It was resolved that the reasons be agreed to. CEMETERIES MANAGEMENT AMENDMENT. BILL. The adiourned debate on the second reading of this Bill was resumed by the Hon. Dr. Pollen, who said that the object of the Bill was simply to give a monopoly of burial grounds in the neighborhood of Auckland to Mr. Robert Graham. . Now, private cemeteries in the neighborhood of centres of population were exceedingly profitable. He might mention incidentally— not that it bad any bearing on the matter whatever, but still he might mention it—that Mr. Robert Graham waa an ardent supporter of the Government. Further, Dr. Pollen said he had his eyes on an allotment near his residence at the Whau, Bft. x Sfb.* which, at some future time—nob immediately —he looked to make use of, and he did not desire to, be deprived of his right to occupy that allotment by Mr. Robert Graham.—The Hon. Colonel Whitmore contended that the inhabitants of Auckland were unanimously in favor of this measure. He was not aware what the politics of Mr. Robert Graham were ; the question simply was what was most for the convenience of the parties concerned. There was really no valid reason whatever against tho Bill. A division was taken on tho second reading—Ayes, 10; noes, 7, LOCAL BILLS. The second reading of the Wellington College Reserves Bill was moved by Dr. Grace, aud* after a somewhat desultory-debate, carried. The Thames Boys’ High School, Christchurch Reserves, and Thames Water Supply Bills were also read a second time. in committee. The following Bills passed through, and were reported :—Cemeteries Management, Wellington College Reserves, Thames B*»y»’ High School, Christchurch Reserves, and Thames Water Supply Bills. (Progress reported on the lant-mentioned.) The Wellington College Reserves Bill was - read a third time and pas-ed. The Council adjourned at twenty minutes to 1 a.m. , HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Monday, October 28. The Speaker took the chair at 2.30 p.m. NOTICES OF MOTION. Notices of .motion were given by Messrs. Kelly,.Reeves, Morris, Beetham, and Macfarlane. . REPORTS. Mr. BARFF brought up a report from the Petitions Classification Committee, which was ordered to lie on the table. ’ ‘ ’ DISQUALIFICATION BILL. The Hon. Mr. STOUT brought up the report of the free conference on this Bill, which was agreed to on the voices. r ' ELECTORAL DILL. ‘ The Hon, Mr STOUT intimated that the conference on this Bill bad been unable to agree. The Bill being in the r other House, it was not for this House to say what should be done. MESSAGE. A message (No. 17) waa received from the Governor, and on the motion of tho Hon. Mr. Stout, it was ordered to he taken into consideration at 7.30 p.m. .... ~ -QUESTIONS- , . Several questions of local interest only were asked and answered. • * : MAORI POPULATION. . The Hon. Mr. SHEEHAN laid on the table the census returns of Maori population. - SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES. A message was received from the Governor, forwarding the Supplementary Estimates. The message waa referred to the Committee of Supply. ADDITIONAL JUDGE.. Mr. HI3LOP asked the .Government,— Whether they will take into consideration the advisability of appointing another Judge of the Supreme Court, so that quarterly sittings .of the Court may be held at Ashburton, Timaru, Oamaru, Invercargill, Lawrence, and ; - other places where the business may warrant it, and of thus obviating the necessity of having .sittings of a Distriet Court at those places f • ' The Hen. Mr, SHEEHAN said it was' the intention of the Government to take this matter into consideration during the recess. NELSON HARBOR BOARD BILL. , The amendments made by the Legislative •.Council in this Bill were agreed to on division * by 44 to 15. "" ' WAIROA HARBOR BOARD BILL. ‘ The amendments made by the Legislative Council in this Bill were agreed to. GOVERNMENT LAND PURCHASES ACT AMBND3IBNT * BILL." ' * The Hon. Mr. SHEEHAN moved that the report be agreed to. Mr. ROLLESTON intimated that he would vote against the Bill, as it gave arbitrary ’ powers: which ought not to be conferred upon or exercised by any Government. Captain Russel! and Mr Sntton also strongly protested against the Bill being passed. The report was agreed to mi the voices. The third reading of the Bill was carried on divirion—Ayes, 42 ; noo-', 19. ' WELLINGTON RECLAIMED LAND SALE BILL. The Hon. Mr, fc> TOCJT moved the committal of this Bill. * The Hon. Mr. RICHARDSON opposed the giving of bo large an endowment to the Corporation. The original intention was that the land should be given to the provincial district, and not to the city, to enable necessary works to bo undertaken. It was also intended to - have a railway station near Mills’ foundry, ' but that intention was now departed from* and it was • arranged that the station should be below Fipitea Point altogether. He would endeavor in committee to have tho schedule so altered that the Government would retain, the site for the central railway station near Mills’ ■ foundry in their own bands. Mr. HANDERS also opposed tho granting * of this endowment to ■ the city, which was already largely endowed, and agreed with what had been said by the bon. member for * Christchurch City. * He thought there was something,behind the scenes which urged the Government to give this endowment to tho * Corporation/ Mr. BUNNY denied that there waa any- * thing behind the scenes in this matter, and said ,be would have opposed the Bill if an r endeavor bad been made to pass lb without the sections being incorporated which appeared in the supplementary Order Paper. He would remind the House that the Corporation had paid the whole cost of the reclamation (£89,000). The General Government got .: .£300,000 worth of property, and tho Corporation got only about 17 acres. The Corporation had j paid the whole cost of the reclamation and the General Government not a penny. Mr. HUNTER expressed a hope that the ' House would go into committee, in order that the details of the Bill might he discussed, * "When the Thorndbn reclamation was originally decided pn, * the . land was reclaimed for the * benefit of the city, and the Corporation was to * pay £30,000 to the Provincial Government for works in the country districts. The reclamation had not cost tho General Government a '■ penny, aad they had taken land worth £300,000. He, believed the Corporation would have no ■ objection to a clause being put iu the Bill providing that when the To Aro reclamation

was carried out a sufficient reserve would'be made there for a railway station. Sir GEORGE GREY pointed out that 30 acres would be required for a railway station, and the. Corporation were only g“ing to get 17 acres. He quite agreed with the suggestion of ths boo. member for Wellington (Mr. Hunter)* that a reserve should be made on the Te Aro reclaimed laud for a railway station. Tho Government considered the p-oposals of the Bill fair to all parties ; they would enable tho Corporation to improve the drainage of the City, and the country districts were greatly interested in having a healthy city to come to. Re ; hoped, even on sanitary grounds alone, that the House would pass the Bill. Mr. MURRAY opposed the Bill. Mr. WAKEFIELD -*lao objected to the granting of this large endowment to the Corporation, because it belonged to the colony, and ought to be disposed of like any other waste lands of the Crown. As to the proposed reserve for a railway station at To Aro, it appeared to him that it waa a case of ‘‘giving new lamps for old ones,” tho latter being decidedly the better of the two by a long, long way. Mr. J. E. BROWN supported tbo BUI, and could not conceive how they could ask for anything more from the city. The city had paid for the whole ef the reclamation, and out of the laud reclaimed the General Government got all the reserves they required without paying a single penny. He hoped the House would not attempt to drive too hard a bargain with the city.Mr. BARFF thought it would be unwise at this late period of the session to pass a Bill hurriedly that ought to have been introduced weeks ago. Ho was opposed to the granting of such a large endowment to the Corporation. Mr, McLEAN thought this was a Bill which could keep until next session.- He begged to move, os an amendment, that the Bill be referred to a select committee. The Hon, Mr. STOUT, said that when streets were taken out of the available land there would be only 13 acres for the Corporation, and it was practically for this 13 acres that the Corporation would have to pay £89,0.00, and provide £30,000 fer the completion of tho Hospital 1 This would become a colonial liability, and would hare to bo provided for, unless this Bill was passed. He considered it a very good bargain for the colony. Mr. WASON accused the Government of deliberately keeping back all important, measures until the end of the session. Why should the time of the House be taken up now with this Bill, when they had so many important publitv Bills to dispose of, and the time to deal with them was so short ? Mr. THOMSON considered an endowment of this kind should go to a harbor board, aiid not to a corporation ; and with regard . to the principal railway station, it should be as near the wharf as possible. , • Mr. BRANDON hoped the House would at once go into committee on the Bill., The Hoh. Mr* FO2C thought the endowment could very appropriately be applied towards the construction of the Wellington and West Coast railway. He was decidedly bp po*ed to the giving of what, belonged to the whole provincial district to the city of Wellington. Mr. SAUNDERS considered tho Government was greatly to blame for not bringing down this Bill earlier in the session.. He objected .entirely to any Government granting favors which might have the effect of obtaining for them support in that House and outside as well. The Bill now before the House ap* peared to him to be a very objectionable measure.

The Hon. Major. ATKINSON considered this should be an endowment for harbor purposes, aa the harbor of Wellington was a colonial work as well as one which would benefit the whole of the provincial district. It might be held in trust by the Corporation for this purpose, and handed ‘over to the harbor board should such a body hereafter be constituted. If such an arrangement could be come to it would have hia support. (Hear, hear.) Mr. HURSTHOUSE opposed the giving up of this great advantage to the city. He moved that the debate be now adjourned.' The adjournment was negatived on division —Ayes, 24 ; noes, 49. The SPEAKER said he would resume the ; chair at 7.30 p.m. Mr. WAKEFIELD thought there was every reason why the Bill should go to a select : committee, because there was a great want of information. A man of business, who had; spent his whole life in valuing land, had in- ; formed him that land on the beach had; brought at the rate of £70,000 an acre, aud , there was nothing to show that this land was less valuable ; in fact, he believed that this bargain simply meant handing over to the city of Wellington u present of £150,000 on the bargain. The c:ty had.no claim for such an; endowment, because it meant this—that while other cities .could get nothing to meet their necessities, Wellington was to be freed from all local taxation' for years to come. The Bill ought to go to a committee, and the whole' transaction bo inquired into. If the Corpora-j tion would complete their drainage, the House would be quite willing, he was sure, to grant a : piece of waste land in the locality as an #»ndow-; ment; but the House was not going to grant an endowment which would relieve the people of rates. Mr. BARTON : It might seem strange if a Bill affecting the interests of my constituents; was disposed of without my saying a word about it. I have only to this : I have not been consulted about tbe BUI; I know nothing of it, and do not intend to vote, either way. • • The division was then taken. The ayes were 35 ; the noes, 32. Tho amendment for sending the Bill to a select committee was therefore negatived. On the motion that the Bill be now committed.' Mn Wakefield called for a division. The ayes were 34 ; the nose, 32. ' The Bill was therefore committed. IN COMMITTEE. : Sir WILLIAM FITZHERBERT, to put himselfjih order, would move fro forma, that, progress be reported. As the founder of the policy of reclamation, and as late Superintendent of the province he wished to put theUElouao in possession of some information. •Ho denied that the land was ordinary waste land of the Crown. It was granted to the Supriutehdent of WeUington in 1866, together, with other land, and the cost of reclaiming it was mat out of tho provincial revenue of Wellington. Tho reclamation was undertaken with these objects—first, for thejjhealth of the city ; next, for giving a larger connecting space between the two ends of tho city. As to the pecuniary advantages, they were to go to the whole province, because tho country districts had sacrificed present beuefi'/ to secure the reclamation ; and he contended that Wellington had a perfect right to the land. If the House, after that statement, chose to treat the land as ordinary waste land, and to divert the result of the energy and expenditure of the Wellington people, he could only say it would be an injustice. However, as there waa a dispute, he thought a fair settlement of the case would be to deal with the land as a harbor endowment; (Hear, hear.) He contended that the resolution re harbor endowment contemplated giving pieces of foreshore like this for harbor endowments; As to the foreshore not yet reclaimed, he hoped to see the work soon undertaken, and that which was absolutely necessary for the prosperity of Wellington, a dry dock would be constructed. Indeed, there was a site in this foreshore which seemed to have been designed fora dry dock, and if the reclaimed foreshore and tho unreclaimed foreshore were banded over for the purposes of a harbor board a great justice would bo done. (Hear, hear). He then withdrew the motion. Mr. WAKEFIELD moved that the chairman leave tho chair, which, after some discussion, was agreed to by 38 to 36. The Bill was therefore shelved for the session. The following is the division list:— Ayes. 37.—Atkinson, Balgent, Barff, Bowen, Bryce, Curtis, Douglas Fltzroy, Fox, Gibbs, Green, Henry, Hodgkinson, Hursthouao, Macfarlano, Wanders, McLean, Montgomery, Morris, Murray, Murray. Aynaley, Oliver, Richmond, Rolleston. Rowe, Russell,. .Saunders, Stevens,-Swanson, Tawltl, Teschemaker, Turnbull. Wakefield, Wallis, Wason, - Williams, Woolcock. . , - • Noes, 20.—Ballance, Beetham, Brandon, Brown, J. ,0.. Brown. J. E., Bunny, Carrington, De Lautour, Dignan, ' Fisher,' George, Gisborne, Grey, Hlslop, Hunter, Johnston, Macandrow, Kaho, Fyke, Ueevca, Sheehan, Stout, Talaroa, Takamoana, Tolo, Wood, , . : NATIVE LANDS BILL (NO. 2). ' Tho Hod, Mr. SHEEHAN moved tho second reading of this BUI, and explained its technical provisions, j 'Major.ATKINSON was sorry tho, hon. gentleman had not .taken tho oppotunifcy of proving how it was tho present Government had to spend on tho natives £1 for- : evcry £2 spent by the lato Government. / The, hon. gentleman had challenged him and he had' accepted it. •, . . . • ; ’ ” Captaitt RUSSELL gave notice of several amendments in committees. Tho Hon. Mr. SHEEHAN, in replying, 1 said it was not thoproper timej when introducing a Bill of that sort, to do so. He did not intend to take up tho question; but if tho hon, gentleman would take it up ho, would rop/y to him. . .r. ' ‘ « The, Hon. Major ATKINSON; Ob, you don*t want to beaten.

; The a second’time, considered iu ! committee, aiid read a third time. ~. . ; , NATJVJ3 LAWSUITS BILL. , - ! waa considered in committee, ' r r After the printed' clauses had been gone through, tho Hon. Mr. Stour brought written neW : clause.—Mr. Sutton said the clause had not been printed, and objected to its being Stout remarked that the matter had beeu discussed threadbare, and the hon, ‘member must bo aware of amendments. The Ron. Mr. Fox said ho was not.—The Hon. Mr. STOUT was not going to discuss the Bill again. It was only waste of time talking ;further.: If' the hon. gentleman did not like/the BUT he .hack better move that the chairman leave the .chair.— -Mr, Rolleston accepted the suggestion, and moved the amendment.—-After, ■ farther discussion, the Hon. Mr. Stout, at the instance of Mr. SnERHAN, said the Government would support the amendment. He would withdraw the BUI,' but would say the Bill had been brought in tb.serve the interests of both Europeans bud riatives, ;: aud those now opposing it; would be most clamoroue to have it brought in again. —The ayes were 47; the noes, 22. The Bi|l was therefore ahelved. Ayes, -47.—Balgent, Ballance, Barff, Barton, Bowan. Brandun, Brown, J. 0 , Bryos, Bunny, Carrington, Cutten, De Lautour- (toller), ; Dignan, Feldwick, Fisher, Fox, .George, Grey, Hamlin, Henry, .Hobbs Hunter,' Kelly, Macnndrew, Manders, McMinn, Montgomery, Moss, Murray-Aynsley, Nahe, Oliver, Richardson, : Richmond. Rolleston (teller), *Rovre, Seaton, Sheehan Shrimski, Stevens, Stout. Talaroa, Takamoana, Tolo, Wallis, Wood, VVoolcock, Nobs, 21.—Atkinson, Beetham, Douglas. Fltzroy, Gibbs, : Gisborne;; .Hlalop, ’ Johnston, Kenny,. McLean; Morris, Russell (teller), Saunders. Sharp, Swanson, Toscheraaker, Turnbull, Wakefield (teller), Wason and Williams. FINANCIAL ARR VNGEMENT3 BILL. The Hon. Mr; BALLANCE moved the second reading this Bill. After explaining seve ral of the technica Iprovisions of the Bill ho state 1 that in consequence: of-the Wellington -Reclaimed Land; Sales BUI having been shelved the Government proposed to .take ppwer in a new clause to bo added to tbe BUI to sell the reclaimed land by auction, ‘reserving £30,000 for defraying the cost of additions to tho Wellington Hospital. He might explain that in estimating their ways end means, they had taken Into account this £89,000, and owing to the shelving of .the Bill the revenue would be deficient by that amount. Therefore the sale was necessary. Mr, HUNTER 'inquired whether all the land was to be sold; if so* what was. to be done with the surplus if .there was any, after paying for the hospital and the ,cost of reclam ition. * The Hon. Mr. RICHARDSON wanted to know if the new plan or the old plan was to be followed out. . . • The Hon. Major , ATKINSON objected to the revenues of the Patea County, being.taken for the construction of a branch Hue of railway between Mountain-road aud Opuuake. He spoke strongly of the injustice of absorbing the funds of a p >or county, which.bad had to suffer from war, while the ; nranch railways in rich counties in the South were constructed; out of IoaUS. A general discussion ensued in reference to the proposal of the Government, with regard to charitable aid,- viz.;, the, management of charitable institutions by local committees, the Government contributing, pound for pound. —Mr. Rolleston and Mr. Stevens thought tho provision made Insufficient. [Left Sitting.]