CHURCH OF ENGLAND GENERAL SYNOD.

New Zealand Times, Volume XXXII, Issue 4948, 31 January 1877, Page 2

CHURCH OF ENGLAND GENERAL SYNOD.

•’ , ■ . (pnOM ODB SPKCIAt ‘ r ’ Nelson, Tuesday. In the - 'General Synod last night' Archdeacon MADNSELt, moved that a coramittso; be appointed to enlarge and improve the “New Zealand Hymnal.'! He - said the people could not act-wftKfiut the -Synod,' as tliU Hymnal was, the Synod’s; book, ■ and the - Synod possessed the copyright. He hoped, therefore; that the request’ ofthe Auckland- DioCose would be Receded: toi ■ ' The Bipaop of. Auckland seconded, the ■ motion. ''' ■ -Mr. CiEEETOK-was opposed to all hymnals, especially 'if authorised ; - they , were; fertile sources of ■ dissension;'. and would cause un-seemly-'squabbles.' Hymns were, not recog. niaed by the prayer-book, hut when sung during the serviCe 'thoy were/ an- interpolation practically amounting to Yan'MteratioU; of foi-mnlaries.. ~ . * i '. " The Dean of! Christchurch wished to deal niost tenderly with the feelings of' the Auckland people on the subject, but he-contd..npt see why they could not ;do for themselves all that they now asked'tbe’Synod to do. Ha should advocate that the Synod’s authority be withdrawn from. any .hyhinal, stand on their merits. . ’ i Mr. Maetel* “opposed-; the committing the Synod to an of the,-.i* New strongly-objected., ; That .book was greatly disliked! in ithe | Wellington j Diocesfc and had been forced on them by the Synod’s past action, j ft would be bettor to adopts Hymn? Ancient au-d^Modern,”; pr; elsej.lefcvßrieaißb diocese or-parish to chopsp.for itself. Archdeacon Harme did not see why Messrs.! Collins should not j enlarge the book themselves. It,would be-bettor for not -to : adopt the hymnal, but follow the. example of the Mother Church, and;l|ay« it-if open question, Hymns must be ueed,.bufcithe Synod ought nbt to thrust] a hymnal down the throats of people, , but should-leavAeahb diocese free to choose the one it preferred. The Key. Mr. Dinuakd hfld'that-itwmdld hi ultra, vires .of the SynbAto-authom* any book! He hoped they would' Iftn&Ww combined psalter and hyftnal: South the books in- general' use wir«'*‘MetPeru Psalter ’’, and “ Hymn*. Ancient and Modern?! Some of the ’ Ibtter hymns were objeotionaiWq, but need not bo sung. ■■ The Bishop" of, DcwdUT did not-believe * “New Zealand Hymnal” had eyer bee» adopted by’, a Synod. * No statute or law rtforcing it had been passed. He bpped the Synod would "resolve ’ that the. Copyiipt should notbe renewed. . T ./Tv'OU -ii/K The Rev. Mr. Dudley said Auckland people always believed "the “ New Zealand-Hymnal'-to be the only ahtiibrised book in' churches, and therefore gave it ft triaf T&oSCCRSaeiaU, Byaod wb. com* mitted to'the bbok-hy expresacirtolntion,' The supply of books with ““^.TJ*'***^?* hausted, and if it-wae it it must he enlarged to meet present reqmTpmentf. t This the Auckland ' pebjfle themselves. The expenie w»\dd vt«Wl*Y«w» - r for it would not pay publisher* tp 4? itf« .... only ono diocese. The.',“NeWU Ewdaud Hymnal" had baeh the bond of UnSpA ?m? n 6 the different congregations, which were almost unanimous.onthis question,; j; . - , , Mr. Hirst and Archdeacon WILLIAMS' tapported- the motion.

• Mr. Hunterßrown moved an amendment, — That the BDbop of-Auckland and. Mr., Carleton should ascertain whether the Synod is in possession of copyright of the “New Zealand Hvmual,” and report to the Synod. / i , ~ * Mr.LtJSK seconded the *vaieudmcn tproforma He produced a deed signed by the late’Bishop of Waiapii on behalf of himself,, the Pnmate, and Archdeacon Stock, who thought it desirable to have one hymnal for the whole colony. If it were ultra vires of the Synod to legislate on such a subject it would lose one of its most important functions. , . ... , . t TUe Rev; Mr. Jackson agreed in the desirability of having one chmmon liymhal, but fce-feareddt was not practicable. ■ The Bishop of Nelson supported the toeiwlnvent because he thought it desirable to J»Ve a full statement before them.. !, Arclideaoon Stock • explained the circum-. itahcea-nnder which the;de;id was signed. . Tim Bishop of .WklunoNin said that up to the present time the Synod had goardedutsell agaiast ■passing any ataftite on the 1 subject, fitome thought it. lymild K«s an mfrmge|nwt of the constitution, hut a resolution -passed by the Synod was morally binding on churchmen, and be.regretted to see parishes acting mdepen*Tbei,DEAN of Christchurch said there. had been"‘complete peace on the subject mrthe Christchurch Diocese 'ever since - Hymns Ancient and Modern” v : i Aclandmaintained that,the Synd3ihad ■never sanctioned.the “ New Zealand Hyinn.U Td adopt it would not cause peace, f6r.tfi«(e %ho how Used “ Hymns Ancient idid-Modern,, ‘ not "give them up. Better diocese to;choose one of ithe’ithreb howUifrwfe Archdeacon Harper issue trad was soidesirable 4s‘t<. be iMcessaryi.; It was so in formularies, but not in hymnals. , , . ■Mr. Busk opposed the amendment, as a waste of time. v ?. ■ -,. T 1 ’Mr. Quick deprecated forcing the Aew Zealand-'’Hymnal ” on' .unwilling diocesesthe various. hymnal* take their chance, ou iEeir respective merits. ; 1 : . . ? f”Mr ' SBTMObB supported tto amendmentHe did not think the Synod _wfts prepared > JHY there sh-uld be but one hymnal. •- . . ' ‘ The Primate said he bad no recollection of ■authorising the Bishop of Waispu to iign the 'deed on his behalf, but was certain to would wet have signed it unless he supposed himself to haye authority. He Was in favor of having i)he common hymnal; but he found that m all Cheeses where “ Hymns Ancient and Modern; were the people were satisfied and had so wish to change, while where the “New, Zealand Hymnal” was used the people were dissatisfied aud desired a change. , , 1 -•'Archdetoon Maunsell, in reply, disclaimed , .any- wish- to force... the : Zealand: jHymnal ” on any unwilling diocese. But the • Synod Lad sanctioned it for eighteen years,, , and; it wivs not straightforward to .knock it ; 36'wu now. .1 - -The- amendment was-then put.- - Ayes—'■‘Bishops, 4 ; clergy, 4;; laity, 9. Noes—: Bishop, 1; clergy, 8 ;Jaity, 6. The amendment ; W»Br therefore- lost. ; The original motion was 'then put and lost. Ayes—Bishops, 8 ; clergy, l B ; laity, «. Noes—Bishops, 2 ; clergy, 7;l • Mr.- Bod& Marten , laid on the table ao-; ‘counts of the : printing committee, 1 of last: '■scansion, showing a balance, of £l7 10s. lii ,Oir the motion of the Bishop of, Auckland, • -the.memorial of the Waimato iNative Church iharklfoii referred to a select .committee, and t mortals relating td trust property, presented the. Synod, were referred to the Trusts. Comto report oil. .. V. .. .; vi ; At this stage, oh the motion of the Bishop -0t Nelson,,: the Synod was , counted out at HHk&'Q'p.fhi . . ....; ~ < jhimafternoon was occupied in.depatmg Mr. Carietenls resolutions in reference ,to : the.■tatos of .members of the .Church of England w have-accepted- the’ Church [constitution j la NeW Zealand and to lelation to the Mother Chtoft'. The debate is etill proceeding, and