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PARLIAMENTARY.

Thursday night. Mr Leveßtaco continued speaking till 2.40. p.m. Mr Gibhß followed, objecting fo the Bill re venous ground?, r»nd continued nctii 3 30 Mr Tomo?na applauded the stand taken by the Nelson members, and thought there was a great deal of similarity between their position aQd *hat of the Native members. Each were contending for tbose they represented. The Government should come to some juit settlement. He proposed to eing a verse of a Maori song to illustrate his views on one point. Mr Hall objectei to such a violation of propriety. The Native members should be taught practically how to conform themselves to the rules of debate. Mr Pitt thought it would be quite in order for a member even to sing. He supposed all their voices were more or lees musical or discordant. Mr Tomoana said be had asked the Chairman whether be was in order in singing his song. Colonel Trimble, who was acting as Chairean, said he did not think the hoD. member would be a bit more out of order in singing than all the other members bad been for the last twelve hours. Ths. wbole proceedings had really become a farce. Holding the chair temporarily, he did not wiib to go against rulingß already given, but be held that the forms of the House were net intended to be used for purposes of obstruction. He quoted authorities in support of this, and he held that it would be out of order to Bine. Mr Colics said they would evidently hsve to wait five months in order to secure justice. There was apparently no chance of concession from the Government, acd as for himself and those woiking with him, there wrs not the slightest chance of their yielding to intolerable tyranny when they knew they were in the right. Th 9 only meßnß of settlement was dissolution. He finished speaking at 4.45, and was eacceded by Mr Hurethouse, who continued speaking ap to baif past 5 o'clock, when the Committee roße until 7 30. Mr Hurßtbouae resumed at 7.30, and spoke for half en hour. Sir George Grey then spoke on the general queetioo of the land laws and electoral rights. He was proceeding to speak oa the pensions question, when The Chairman ruled him out of order in referring to that subject Sir George Grey retorted tbat this was oppression, and tbat if, in defence of public rights, endangered by class legislaiioo, freedom of epeech was denied him, he would tit <sowd, protesting egairst the Chairman's tyranny, Mr Swanson defended the property vote, contending thot all the Liberal measures they had w«s the resnlt of legislation passed in virtue of the existing franchise. Referring to remarks made on a previous occasion in allusion to the wriHsgs of Carly!e, wherein the writer tnskes reference to the blessings of honest poverty, the speaker (Mr SwaneoD) said there was a great deal of sentimental trash said and written on the subject, but his experience was that every man was more anxious than another to get quit of it and acquire for themselves an independence. Sir George Grey asked to be allowed to say a few words. Ihe Chairman replied that he would sot be allowed to transgress the ordinary rules of debEte. The imputation of tyranny was most unjustifiable. After a few words from Mr Seddoo, Sir George Grey said he did not think it desirable for him to mix with Mr Swanson in political matters, es Mr Sweneon was a man of property and had a compact in his pocket, making him either the servant of tbe Government cr the inßsier of tbe Government. Mr Swanson's whole epeech was in favor of the influence of wealth, and of rendering it impossible for the poor man to acquire property. He himself waa opposed to any other franchise than the manhood onp, but as tbe freehold was to be maintained he thought the Bill might be mitigated by tbe leasehold franchise being allowed. After furlher debate, be was alluding to tbe Council's rejection of the Law Practitiouers Bill, when The Chairman ruled him out of order. After a pause, Sir George G/ey Eaid he supposed they must not Bpeak of their masters in another place. He continued to speak on a variety of points until the usual adjournment for half an hour at 10-30. The Legislative Council met at 2*30 this afternoon. Messrs Reynolds, Robinson, Wilson, Nurse, and Miller ■were granted leave on urgent private affairs. Mr Reynolds moved that the Council should adjourn from to-morrow until Wednesday, September 14, as there would be nothing the Council to do. The motion was rejected by 17 toll. Replying to Captain Frazer, Mr Whitaker said there was no power to stop the New Plymouth Harbor Works rntil the Bill that was introduced had passed. Colonel Brett withdrew a motion that no leave should be granted to any member of the Council for the rest of the session. The Native Reserves Bill was read a third time and passed. A message from the Governor notified that he had reserved the Chinese Immigration Bill for the signification of the Queen's pleasure. The Waikaiuri Harboi Board Loan Bill, Invercargill Gasworks Site Bill, and Canterbury Rivers Act Amendment Bill Avere read a second time. The I^angiora High School Bill, was read a second time by 12 to 8. The Akaroa High School Bill was thrown out by 12 to 10. The Council adjourned at 5 p.m.

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Nelson Evening Mail, Volume XVI, Issue 209, 2 September 1881, Page 4

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PARLIAMENTARY. Nelson Evening Mail, Volume XVI, Issue 209, 2 September 1881, Page 4

PARLIAMENTARY. Nelson Evening Mail, Volume XVI, Issue 209, 2 September 1881, Page 4

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