CLIPPINGS FROM HANSARD.

Nelson Evening Mail, Volume VII, Issue 216, 10 September 1872, Page 2

CLIPPINGS FROM HANSARD.

SIR DAVID japSTEO.ON.MR,: YOGEL. "The Hon. the Colonial Treasurer is generally! believedjJ /confess, riot 'without good reason, to be the dominating mind of the Ministry. ' He is wha^ artist would call the leading or central figure of the group. It is impossible, Sir, not to admire bis many; brilljapt qualities—hi^^ -fertility of invention, his ready vwit^ his courage and good temper^His ability in debate, and bis earnest desire to advance the interests of the colony: ' I giy'e.'him'itedii^for these I and for many bthef^gootffquali'ties which I can easily imagine that he possesses. But J jfeehboundcto. say> f ;at sthe ;same: time,— r V iand th^hon.-meiaiber-will not -be bffeiraeid f s iat wfiarFsaViforl Bay^it'iinder^'sVnse 'danfferQos^politiciah i^^a"hger,ou,B ia. direct n qHahties:^o^hic> yr^n>^ i statesman^ ;I attach ;thpt htgheßtoxtftloeyi * regardifeimt.fifii; -prudence atfd! ; foresight,- withou t patjience or ten acity ?df I pur^e^i&oteotrecSMm ■ prepa^efli tQ rnaafeai ' MJnyA, sacrifice for X. r seutiraaotß,tctiQduct:the aflairs of a Britiah

community. Xjgive him ci^ifc desir*! ing to do gooa, but I Tiff-jraCthink h6 k^Sws- h§i%to ap itjsl| Hemnu^a nothing ojltil p^iMico|lr above noi v recognise that it is these'' qualities wbich are the basis of the greatness of the British people. He would like to do a .great deal for the people, but nothing by them. He would make an excellent Minister in France or Russia, where, the . people* are accustomed;, to have every thing jdone iotf "tlrem by the" officials; buthe 'does mot suit an, English colony. His proceed-iiog-'s,- -if l it "■ were : pos'sible to -contemplate' such a disaster, would emasculate, and enervate. any Britisn^comiriunity, tend re.-' iduce them to a condition of helplessness." i MR. YOGEL ON SIR DAVID MONKO. "The honorable- genUeman ; ' has 4een ipleased to read a> long .description of my [character, very well drawn up, no doubt; ■but j iist the sort of- thing you would get i tf'rom a phrenologist,Jf you consulted him iand paid him a fee of h.alf-a-crown; — you Jcould get a better one for 55., and a still jbetter for a little) more money. All the? jremarks about /anti-British tendencies iwould s hav,e suggested, themselves . to the. ;character-wiiter when he considered that imy nanae'wa3 a foreign one. The hon. (member, no, doubt, unintentionally, paidime a higji, compliment' by saying I was fitted to be a. Minister of Russia. I think ithe. colony might very weir be proud if iit could have. on. these : benches . gentlemen ;fit to ;be /Ministers; of Buch anEmpire; ■but I must altogether disclaim the icompliment * the Hon. ' gentlemen paid me, for I am afraid I am far :from having .the qualifications necessary to a RuEsian Minister. As for the hon. member for Waikouaiti himself 1 , 1 may say. that I have had opportunities, during the past nine, years, of observing his course of ;conduct; and I know this — that unless he has very much altered, he lives perpetually in an atmosphere of" ezclusiveness ; he has no sympathy whatever with other hon. members of this House, and none whatever with the great mass of the people of the colony; and no long time has passed since h> thought a grdat deal more of the sheep in the country than of tbe people. : -It is not very long since he would have been pleased to see the whole of. the, : !Middla J Island comparatively iin-> populated. His character may have very ■, much altered lately* but we require a far <■■ stronger proof of that alteration than we have .yet had; given, us," before we can,* by our: votes on this occasion, place that hon. geptlerna,n in office. Were he placed th.ere 4 it would not be long before fee, on the one side, and the Colony on the other, found that there was an utter want of sympathy between the two. 1 ' , . MR.. READER WOOD ON 3IR. YOGEL; AND HIS POLICTf, " Sir, this policy is inseparable from the Colonial Treasurer; he devised it, he

initiated it; bia strength^ o|».,character, his strength- .of ' will/'c^rie^pl^firodgh the House. Srhe h^d|^succ^|edfthe praise would htfyjgbeejl ||i8 jjas^ filfailing, he must bear^he^rflntAf^V^it has been his political course durinjf "the laafc two years? See him, as we saw him in 1870, amid the cheers and support of an admiriog majority, prophesying and promising an uninterrupted career of prosperity to the colony if his policy were accepted by the House. Follow him across the great American continent, entering into agreements and covenants with the millionaires of the States; arranging steam services that were to have raised us above For remainder'of news see fourth page. '

every the;iußjtral!an colonies. \ 'See;tiim i&eix/fc- iiri |jondpn> jar-rounded:, by cbn^ractprs ah tt- engineers, and speculators ; jthei^greafr man making the fortunes of -other ftrelat^neni ■ Then- back to the arena of his fams meeting the House last session, still /with his majority, although not so great as it was before;, mending up his Billp, rearranging everything, and succeeding in carrying, everything he proposed. Then agaiD, see him off to Australia, and by his seductive' tones arranging * with the Government to subsidise his shaky steam service; and then back here, at the sum- ; tnifc of his renown, y his sublime head striking the stars; 1 ' ! In, a few short months, what a fiasco the whole thing is — it is gone — : -. ' And like the baseless fabric of a vision, Leaves not a rack behind. W/here JUj; the steam service? Where is our great San Francisco route ? Where is the trade? Where are our letters ? From the first, the service was uncertain and unpunctual, and now, Sir, does anybody believe he will ever see oneof those ships again ? I don't i Next, we see the great contractor who was induced to come, out here, dissatisfied, discontented; the great Minister of Victoria trundled from his office for having had anything to do with the hon. ; gentleman! The promised subsidy not paid. And now we are seriously discovering, and about to come to the conclusion that the great policy is a failure. How has the resolution been met ? By a parcel of excuses! They began to make excuses, even, before the hon/ gentleman had proposed his resolution. They were in such a great hurry to begin, that , one of those binary stars, whose influence controls the Public Works department, the northern star that day being in the ascendant, opened the ball by reading what was called the statement by the Minister of Public Works. And what was that statement? It consisted of a parcel of excuses; and I say that the tone of the debate, all round the House on the Government side, has been taken from the cue given by that hon. gentleman. It has taken a long time for some hon. members to get it out, and it has been expressed in all kinds of different ways, and with much variety of language, but the burden of the song has been the same. I will put it into three lines, which will, no doubt, be familiar to many hon. members :— Be to our faults a little kind, Be to our virtues very kind, And clap a padlock on the mind ! ME. TAKAMOANA ON THINGS IN GENERAL.. " Sir, I rise to express my opinions on the subject now before the House. It is my. first experience in this matter, and in matters connected with government. I used to think that Governments were appointed for a certain period, and when the end of lhat period arrived they retired from office. I did not think we could take the present action with regard to responsible governments. I have ascertained that fact since I obtained a seat in this House. I therefore thought I should join in .upsetting the Government. During last year, when I had a seat in this House, I thought I would assist in turning out the Government. I do not know what fault the Government of the honorable member for Timaru committed, but I saw faults committed during the time of the fighting, and the management of Native affairs'." The hon. member, baying enlarged upon certain grievances with reference to the management of Native lands, proceeded to say :—- --" This question has caused me much distress. The question of the administration of these matters by the Government caused me great distress. Therefore, I thought last year, Well, I will go and turn Mr. M'Lean out ; if I get, into trouble, let it be at the hands of a Government who only speak the English language. The Native Minister, who can speak Maori, did not agree to advance tfny. money for that land. I have also another grievance against the present Government. A trap belonging to me was seized by the Europeans.. I went to the Government to borrow some money on account of that; £40 was the sum' I asked. I was then told that the Government had no money. I asked for £40 to get back the horses the same day they were taken. . Mr. Ormond said the Government had no money, I said to himi *.* ;lf the. Government has, not got it, you may have it yourself." He said he had none either. That is the reason why I accuse the Government of being the means of losing my land. * .*■'* It * I am speaking now of- the' ; gerEeral yiewß; ;, of, thV . jNativeß on the subject, 2 '^an&\ : noC my; : own persocat opinions wi^ ,If;the ,^ativ(B JMtinisterwill remain in the 'Government :fie' l^ ttieMaori people.. If he^ #.iMent;;a^ f^j^^m&^^^^^g^^Sf^^ parent ; ;Xsow?urdft;^

votaj I shall wait. I think I shall, vote for the hon* member for Timaru. If the Government of which the Native Minister is a member stands again, I shall go back to them. I understand it is the custom of opposite persons to try and turn the Government out. I understand you intend to. increase the time during which Maoris can hold seats in this House. I shall vote whichever way I think fit when the time arrives for the division."