THE NO CONFIDENCE DEBATE.

Manawatu Times, Volume III, Issue 60, 26 July 1879, Page 2

THE NO CONFIDENCE DEBATE.

■ After Mr. Sszhoxtb Gbobo*, one of the member* for Hokifcika, Lad made a Ifcw remarks, his colleague m the constituency, i '- . Ma Babtp, was the first to address the B[ouse ,on Tuesday.. He said that the real qu,ea*ion Jhey had to dealVithwai, whether the House and the country could farther trust ths (Wernment, which had strewn that floor wit^ broken promifles. He hinv •elf had basiii, a, quyporter of Sir George Grey when he toplj office.} but when £9 compared his prbmiiei. with their fulfilment —or non-fulfilment— h*. considered ~h» mi perfectly entitled to •ecedft from such a party.' He then attacked the, Gtoxernnaent's management of the native quwtios. He knew of a case where a Maori' fiad a right to a certain piece of lar^d, eren haying scrip, which however defined no particular b^oojc, so that he was -obliged to squat down anjr>. where/ And yet on thei same block of land two Europeans were atyeto get their. Crown , grants forSO acres eaoh, within six weeks of applying them. It had been Baid that the Gorernment was a Liberal Government ; but he dtfnied it, for he failed to see a single measure introduced by the Government which it seemed prepared to support m a liberal manner. He considtred himself a Liberal, and should feel bound to Support the amendment of the hon. member for Wanfanui. , Br. WAiipia said h<* should take an exactly opposite vi«w tf> the. last speaker, and should vote 1 m "a directly- opposite way. Of late, thtrf h»d been a political {earthquake m New Zealand, and the Government, had been hampered with a great many difficulties,

tags to attack them. Many of the MiniitrySt . good deeds had been kept m the back gz»uacU :Wh»t "would be the result of the Qppori- --• tion's success? Way, a Liberal Ministry would be upset, and a reactionary <M inistrywou'd be put into it« place, and the goods measures that were to be brought forward would be indefinitely postponed.: Minuter*, might not hare come up to their expected tious, bat it was bettor to bear the «viU that, the/ had than flyto othew that thfyknei^ ■ not .of, Ministers wore > placed, in pecnliaxv d'i&ouHies, and this should b*. taken into. consideration. Some of them aroae from,, the very fact of their Liberal policy.. Tha* hon. member for Avon had told them thai i; was impossible to have real Liberals and real Conservatives, He failed to ate thia, ? himself. In New Zealand, for many yean past, they had been trying to establish & *e»l party Government, and they. ware on the ere of getting wha.t they wanted^ Tha> present was the. most liheral Ministr j they ever had,. He referred to the Bills which* the Government prosposed to introduce. If the reforms to which.he had alluded w»» , carried., out they wo«ld ; have a real w:ty* Gh>Tßrom»AK Th>y migb^Vthenb* wall an* wisely; gbveraad without , th« exutenoe of- > hostile^parties, \t was true, they might gel- ■. a. higher and a better ftde. of governmentthan thej had yet had v f Nether England, no? New Zealand, however, were yet f in » '"-. condition, to accept such a systenrof gown* merit. Barty. government h»d existed m England iiftoe 1688, bv\t. tKerc had n»rerbeen, a gbyernmejjf m New, Zpaland •ojuist-: «3g oi „ tither L^beVala. or. Conservatives. '? The present Minutir, take it all m all,C *»»c-,- ----< the. most, libfrai pn« they' l»ad ever been, blessed with., the. speaker then proceeded, to pronounce, a panegyric on the Jfini|try^ Believing .tkat to be so he would certainly •vote against the. amendment, of Sir W. Tfcx* He 'Adm'tted that Liberalism had manyi w.eak points. Qne great •principle of Oon< v serratism -y^as rest and -be thankful, whilsv ' rthaj of, X4bei^ljsaaj w^»f;orw»rd? and npwacds, 'exciting these by hostility;-" .H*^: : admitted that they had' been eitraTagant, and, he proceeded to refer to salaries, reei--dences, and trips m the HmemQa, inswhiohg the Min : st t y indulged. Wfll, it inu nofc. :, euph a seriouji charge.af.ter all, and he had;. , ;no hesitation m saying that th^ Ministry- ■ lof wh ich Sir W; Fox was a g«»t deal mor*. : extrcTtgant. than that of Sir Wk>rge Grey,. - while Mmjo!? i.tkinpon,'s I Miniftry «[aß mos^. extrayagant than all> He next referred to, theapppui^mp.njiof J K P/s, a^.i^^tte el»». tibij, of Cfr.taiape6ple to the. TJpperSeose— but all Mrauteri i since the.establishment of' ■ th*;.colpnj had made the.aame mistakes, va.fr; was^th,e present Min?str^.to ; inffer- forith*.;,. .maladministratipn of/ Ihose who had gcHM> before them ? : . LasV yeajfthe Mipistiy hadj brought forward a measure tolift off hundreds' of thousands of poqnda. f n>m the. ■ shoulders of the working man. That, at al^, eTerits, -was the object of the measares. ."With,/ regard- to the Hon. Afr. Sheehan, hehadi worked like a herb and a giant to Bottle th». Sat^is. di%nl(gs, and' he " wat. not to bs). ; blamed for the present condition of things. He liktned the Opposition to a band of> •priaohers once seen m Ireland vhb wer»^ chained together, and>who,. on being questioned a» to what they were, laid theyj.. cabled themselves the United SYbluntieeri. He was BOrry, tp.find that the, House used, such strong language on both, . sides, and he mighitesp^ially refer to l>otl».> ; Sir tyilliam Fox and Sir George Grey. Of*? course the language must be strictly Parlia;. ; mentaryi; or the Speaker would put it 'down. , aJVnecoo'ci say, if it ;w»» EarliainentavyiJli*,: iyiovli llke.to kiipw what wai npt^s. : ; f ! The! Hon. ' jji.; Gj^onmi*** Q**r n * rk ,speakfr. He saidj;\t hadUbeen th*/ custom^: m thst'Souie-fof manj^ yeansptotl. to carry the Ad<feess~in almost without any . tiflhttfi. 3ST.e.n, if the Opposition had :g«l -sv-c policy; they had git it from the Gtorijta^ inent, and were, m) possession of it under, very suspicious circumstances. .The Minuh. t;y vtpa asked to go out of office and to lear*. the : r^clothes io beywprn by their ; aucce»----80.-3. If ifherGpvernmenfc .was:, m. fault m ; haVing ordered the survey of > t h« Waimata o Plains, it' was the faulf of previout Govemr ; .r ments. And wjiat'iiirar their courit when^ ;, the ensis occui-red>. It was one which bj«i received the general, approval of the coumj^, try. He would ' repeat the observation. . They had put the district m a state of ■■■4»^ fence, and had captured hundreds of fight- imen without bloodshed. Vfa that rot ». great result ? Looking at i^«|. ; tnsujtt>;«%v the Native pelicy of that island, it musfc have the approval of that House and the country. The' amendment was conceived m a captious spirit, and Tf^«.b^|fed..oii thd vaguest of evidence. He did not think the . House should, under such circumstances, „ think of carrying the amendment, andjtunn^x - ing but the Ministry from. the. Government, . benches. f ' , ' - Mr. .SATOTOBBB roie to speak; against th». ' Government, the:«sis^gircircuin.i' , L stances, the Opposition had no chance, m attacking a policy which was one thing m • profession and another m actioa. rU*4**' these'circumstances, they could only point . out the faults of the present Governments .•■•:> The country could, np' longer pay attention to arh\g whioh.had givin such.amialiading. r throughout New : ; Zealand; Hitherto ; he (the speaker) had not spoken" on v N»tiv»^. effairs m the House. He did not profes* to. go elaborately into this question, ;;but h# _ could see what had been ihe r effect {ofv.th* - Native.pplioy of the present Governme^V who had assured the House that, friendly [relations had been at last restortd. It-only aj>i»ared to the onlooker that, if ; left uoa* ■the Native dhfeulty would^ have solved: itself m a very snort time. Aid it; was thy interference of the Gpvernm%nt whichihad . brought the present mischievous. state of: thingiabout. They Had been that thft Elector" ESil would give » laig^inoreaisj^v f.-incnise to \he. country, and yet thxoujjF*^ the action of Sir George Grey that Bill waf , v ' not now law.. That Bill was to have given : votes to SO,OQp9J! the pith and r marrow * , of the country. "wit]l regard to the. Bribery Bill, the. Government took tb* firs* opportunity of withdrawing it Jlrom, bffor* the House. So far.aß h» had' been able to see there were a few Conservative memben s .m that Hoiise, and iff hfcif^eje^asked to pipk j them out; he should first mention the Hon r Mr. Giflborae, who spoke one-half to that House and the other.h^f Whkconstituenli; . :,- 5 : Butit!wo«ild be necessary, for him toapeaki , yet on three sides. He' had npw heard; ?k more than'half a dozen speeches of ;th# hon, -= ■ th* Premier, and it seaimed to; hj™. that ;i = they were all the samer^a liitle, bit bjang v put on here, and a littli biji ttften^ 0f1^ ,.: : there., . -• „ ''■,-' .-:•-.■'• '•>"■•.-. -••■/-^ - Mr. BBBSjipoke oh behalf _of the Gp v ; verntaeut. Bfe could, not epmplunen}). tHji. ; .. ' speaker who had juit. sat Tdown, Thera. , i were men who attached, themselves to tliosa, „. who were greater .than themselves, and who^ % haying \y. this means crept, into Parliament, [^ .. vferai^he; first to turn wuncl upon thejr,, friend and stab him assassin-like m the,- T back, If the hpn. member had not told <$ tliem thatle t^s an old man he should have felt inclined to hare spoken his ,mmd ■■: more freely than hftintended to do. Th». „ hon. member for the pheviot, while confta- ._; : i sing himself as An advocate p| certainOiberaJ nieasures, prepared; to put h^heeAnprai thos> who, were bringing such forward, ffhft : p/eVent was the first that so many : gOQo\ rueasnres t«w I^. .^«««i #> *"> -<■ The Hon. Mr. THOMSOJtwiui i a fcfcfle a* ~,- ----tonished at, the factiprts condubt of the Oa - ; 5 ppsitw» 4 w^ %me|. Tery Juni?pn| ...'• J...

prdve^their case. He was not going to say' thit the. Government had done : no wrong, finofethey they had been m office, but, look-ing-back on the last two years it was astom jshiug that so little fault could be found •wth their administration. There could be no doubt that the Opposition were exfcremelr »nxious to g#t on to those benches, for they had even refused to allow an Imprest: Supply Bill to be brought m. , lhe consequence of that waic that at the present time no contracts could be paid, and many men were sufEering. And' they would not letthe Loan Bill be brought m. He had fchoiiglit it only right that they should therelowhtflake a clean breast oi the delinquin* oieaof the Government. He. did not think they had- made out a good case at all. Befnrihj first to the question of advertising, the speaker said i| was a Very difficult matter to 4eaLwith; Theactioh of the Gttvs?ntn»nt he had an advantage over the Oppo»itbn*' P/obabty if the newspapers had sul^ had ; advertisements, they would not" hire been 10 strong against the Government' w they were, He noticed m the speech of the' hon. membet for Wanganut that the question of the Government advertising was oompiouous by its ; absence. The papers .^hica supported the Government of Sir Wil l? am Fox rfceived the largest amount of advertising. The Wellington Independent of that day received more money- for printing' and advertising than any other paper m the Colony, and if he got back into office there was no reason to suppose that his conduct would be different m thetqtur* f rett'^hatit was m the past; It wa9 said at the time he was Premier and Sir JuHus VogerTreasurer, that the latter was the real mind of the Cabinet, and, m fact, the head of thi»> Cabinet. Sir William Fox had talkeda good deal about the! Government Cwting humble pie. >■ He-wouldVywy like to know how much of ' that pie Sir' William Fox ate from the hands of his colDr. A HoDakiHsow said t^e proposed newJeader was utterly destitut« of character and backbone^ and had shown that he was incapably 'of being a leader of any party. (Laughter.) With regard to the Oppositionjand their policy— indeed, they h,ad nq" iwlicy, but rather of profligacy. They had tbe'enVontery to come before the House under the guise of a political party, ayC their conduct was utterly unpatrilitic, when th<y knew the bad financial position which the Colonyvjwas m at the present time they had taken%h« strongest couwe they could to xuin hundreds of settlers m tke Colony. To Bay %hMlmbpt it, their^^ conduct, waji pern^ cidhr - and unscrupulous: ' Dyi Hodgkin- ; Jon wferrtd to the teetotal addreaies of the LpnV member^ and satd . that ih'ey ac. least did-no harm if they did no good, while his present action m this mitter had degraded the/House. It was, m his opinion, a system. :of body-snatching. The Oppbiitionhad the insufferable vanity and egotism .to suppose that ihey could administer the affa'rs of the couhtrj— ln coriclusio-a he had to cay that had the Government orthe Opposition been of his opiniori with regard to the affa : rs of N thy country they would have risen to ttie levd; of the 'situation. Mr. '.''ijßifßDiti moved the adjoui\nment ©fflw debate.. V * : 3*6; fiba. Sir Fox s&id ih» delay was not witlrfoie Opposition, who did ttct-oppose the Imprest Supply Bill, ahd %;Mwere pi-epa ■»dto go "on wfth the debate i them* The ? Hon. 'the Native however, / wished the debate postponed jntiT;tHe foPow:ng erenihgV- m order that W tt »«»t *<>jl/» *>n J the Opposition would pot therefore oppose the adjournment. .-S?"^ 0 . 110^ 0 * 17 Hibugdt it was due Mmiiter to ha^e; the right of -&£*'+» 1?# i«d IWad sererejfr attacked/ JSriiwto^^ and the >fe twenty minutes to 12 o'cloiokv:^/ - ; - ; ■;•;'■/ •■*":•■•:•;:. - : . > -:-^ 7^ WJDJMDAX'* DBBATR. _TOe ; Hon ; J. Shwsuk, who wias recerved With loud cheers from his own side cf the House, said that before going into the question oTthes evening, i he might state that aome^twenty-four.^^mpra natives had been taken prisoners on tha. Weak: Coast. In npeakingto th# question, he thanked the hon. gentlemen on the other sida for the aajournment that had been gixen: It was • gr^^hint to nh3 agopd fueling preTtifed on both •ids.; of the House. For. many yean past it had not been the custom to test the rtrejigth, of the Gevernment On the Addrm-mmeply. At the same time the Oppontion were quite right to adopt such a «o«»»;rf 3 they thoughtproper to do ■©. If *h»y h*d rwJly xnisrit tha^ the Imprest flupply should be passed for the good of the publwrtrvi^, they might have allowed the Addrew m Replj to go by default: He for w>»«i.a not^«sC(|^t'th% 6 f»rofessions of wolves Sn sheep sclothing ph-tHe other sid« of the House. Theysimply wished to burke the Pouoyeonto^ed.in the Governor's Speech. *•*■* D*m impossible for him- to remain m P 6 dating: the whole of the debate g consequence of his onerous public duties. He could apt, tiherefpre, reply to all thi TO*|«m who .Sad attacked the Government, M&? x< * l i*^ Ifo^* leader^ th. »itf»nbon--*Sir;Wi Fox .;>;• Whatever might be tht end of this del»te he wished perWM «y^«i?^hw%ighi4dmi^^ »»7^»Mo.Mrrice, done by that gentleman. Jh>;o^rl»iat he fouiid with him was that lie came down the back stairs; Theße orders •nddiffc'noliow should be given at the wish , of theeojoiay; nevertheleis, he could aflFora t? -l 9 r: * l K ll PP®^^ d hon. gentleman would ltvel(Bn^.to:Mloy;Kii<dißtinctiPns. He was •uipri^ i^f J the JBaaoh which Sv W. Fox had made, whiehXiwis hot" what ought to have been expected of, him. The real fight was not'ibout ifialadmiriistratioh or native «ff»iw, butthe. xiealilght was that^the hon. gentleman on that sfeio <if- the Hou>ethought th %2s& * washed to ta>e posMssioh a$ the. GAv«rnm.fnt beaches, After 5?*?? WS* - : **«w«S. "of the. Minister of Public Works hahad no Hesitation m sayrag. that a better and truer-hearted man naver came within the walls of that House. Befermg to tbe, appointment of the. Sbeake". Of the Upper<House, Mr. Sheehan said the Government of tha day. were/ entitled- to make the fekotipn, and bestow: it where they chose. ~uk was right m assuming that lh«Hon. Sir.;W-illiam Fox had no doubt picked out the strongest popsibte ohaMss ha, ewld dor >H«^(the speaker) was charged TemoTuiij 0. (X Day» and liajor Mair from the public service, and he would go « on to justify himself j and prove tha.t he. was . not animated by any personal feeKng m the natter. For many causes when he became Native Minister ttie: public, officers of the colony had a down on him, He. was. urged m all parts of the country to dismiss those officers at once. Ko doubt if the hon. memberfor Wanganur had been m his pla'c?, he wouldbava done so, from personal motives. But no such motives mftueneed him,' and it' was •even months before%iifted his finger •gainst- • single, individual; H«i wo«dd first refer to Mr.' o: O; Bavii. Rwm known throu/fhoufr the country that Mr. Davis: was false tothe colony m which he Kvedi He bad Keen informed' on the besj; authority that all the native -trouble*, had arisen SfPftJS* «»*«*• Hthis was the only thing he had to answer for. he was quite WilUng^^to^iccept the terdiot: of the House, p^oiddndw refer to Major Mair, who F^ 1 ? : W ' b m * We° o* great^^ public serrice: V> this oouhtry. He was holding^officeasa magistrate and a native agent, His statements were not borne out by facts; and affer^ • certain time he was called fcpon to remove

then came down to Taranaki from Waikato, and' saw Be wi. He bad an account of whc/; took place at that interveiw, and he had no hesitation m laying that ft man who conld •ay such things to the natives at such a time . was not fit to remain m the public service. Afterwards, at an interveiw with the Major, the latter adortted that he had dope wrong. Subsequently, however, he agam '.wrote to Rewi, and said that the Parliament paA been three months m session, and' had not yet - don© «?# good thing for the Maoris'.iVjJe (the Native ICiuiater); then refused to na^e anything further % do with him, wad dV cl?ied to support his claim for compensation. If he wanted that compensation now he could com© t» the House. Mr. Sheshan also explained why Major Mair had been removed, and next referred to his action with regard to Mr. Booth, who had a wife! and twelve children — a fact .which forcibly reminded him of the election of the beadle m Dickens' ** Sketches by Boz." Mr. Booth was suspended by a superior officer, but the action of that officer was confirmed by him (the! speaker). A fai« trial followed, and jfr. Booth was freed from the charges against him, and he was now m a higher position than he had ever been, and received a higher salary, and 'had admitted that never, since he had been m office had he received such consideration as he had done from him (Mr. Sbeehan). He next came to the question of Mr. LuckieV appointment. He would say -for his Own part, that lie had never filled a vacancy m his department over the heads of those who . were entitled to : the billet. M?. Sheehan then entered into a long justindatidn of the administration of Satiyei 'office, /in ; •thecourse of which he atserted that 4OCOTH3res out of the 16,000 surveyed on the 4 Waimate Plains, had been'reserved for the use of the Natives; and m summiag up a clever speech of nearly three hours, said he might say that the troubles of tbe West. Coast arose from the action of the predecessors of the present Government. He tiusted that whoever was m power would try to fulfil the promises of the' Government, so that if they went to w«r they might- do so with clean hands. There were now m .Wellington gaol thirty-four prisoners who had never taken up arms against the Government ; but who, on the contrary, had always fought on their side.' .-•..•: ...: • ■'; •:■ /'. ■''-. '. . /•. ' /:.-• Mr. Waxefibld rose to snpport the amendment, and m doing sd said the Premier was a most able man, but since he had been m office he- and his party had utte/ly mismanaged the business of tbe country. 1n 1877 he clai ned that: he had a large majority m the Hous», and asked tl? em .to give him a trial, and if Me did not perform Iris promise* to turn hint out^ He was afterwards m a minority, but was kept m his position most loyally. When he asked for a dissolution, the Governor refused to to give it to him; He had had the trial he had asked for. . At. the close of the session he had abstracted one Bill that had 'been passed, and asked the Governor not to give his assent to it, but he had never yet told them why he ; had done ! so. He lad, it was true; at^id; it' was for the. good of New Zealand. His action m regard to that measure / was most unconstitutional, and there could be no excuse whatever for it. If his aotion received the sanction of the, country there would be an end to all representative institutions m the country. In 1877 1878 the conduct of the Government was not what it ought to be, but the^e were certain excuses immediately after abolition' had been carried.;, When the Assembly met they found that' all the promises made du•?ing the recess were to be overlooked, and only enough to be^ brought forward to secure a vote here and there. .This; gave general diseatiofaction throughout the House, and goeat disappointment wajthe. result. From 'the very beginning the' hon. gentleman, was Hav^r e_ntioe^d, tq, oonSdenc& which he had at first obtained. /His followers were very' badly treated! But for the hon. gentleman? 8 conduct last session the Triennial - Parliamente Bill would have been brought into law : if the Premier had made it a Ministerial question the Bill would have been, passed. "Every man of sense knew it was the case. And yet lie told them how that this was one of the measures he wished to ! see passed this B^yiipit. r W*y. v TKhaJ w&a, it all? They, knew it from beginning to end. llt was humbug;' At that -time things were m such disunion among the Ministry, which, had led to such disastrous results throughout the. country. And the Beer Bill was thrown; out through the conduct of the i Premier. - Measures of his own colleagues -were' thrown put. by /the intrigues of .Sir ■ GeorgeGrey^ iTbis could lead to nothing elte but v tter disorder. What confidence could there be , m a man who intrigued secretly against the measu*s of hit 6%n colleagues ? After last session it was a reported throughout the country the Minis* toy could not agree, and that there must be • split m the Cabinet. It was g remarkable thing thing that Cabinet secrets were kn^wia, throughout the length and breadth of the land. He himself had been told many of them by a commercial traveller, m a ■ railway train,,who, m his; turn, had been told by a Minister himself. ' He should hot give any name. tt?hen, again, while all the Ministers were on "a peripatetic expedition, the Postmaster-General was 'the only man; who was left to carry on the business of the. country. And while upon this peripatetic expedition the Premier had stadia speech Betting class ftgsMst.classr-ftspßsch of which, for various r^Mons, lie ought to be ashamed. He had, too, most severely attacked on& branch of the Legislature (the Upper House) m a manner that was not creditable to him. If he was not satisfied with that body let him bringdown a measure m a proper and sober manner. It was only right that any branch of Legislature should be spoken of£with respect] Again, he had on the subject of taxation spoken m a way that was" likely to do far more harm than good. When he spoke about raising the land tax from, id. to 4d., he did more harm to the country than he could ever rectify. By such statements he kept hundreds of thousands of pounds out of the country [The speaker here spoke of two! cases that had come to his knowledge where large, sums of money had been kept out Of tha' country through the speech of Sir I George. Grey at the Thames having been ; read by intending capitalists, iajßßtors, and; ■ emigrants «,t Home.] Mr. Wafefield next referred: to, tha disgraceful fracas between the Premier. and the late Treasurer asserting that tha conduct" of Sir George was brutal asi uncaUed for, a»d that he was thoroughly: to blame, m. the. ma^r, referring to the ; manner m which jfe. Ballance carried on # ; 1 ?^ departments while the ( rjjst oi the Ministry were, doing the, peripatetic. Wie. speaker. next criticised the' de/partment of- Publio. V^orka, and; accused 'Mr. M;aiandrew of both useless expenditure and ignorance, of the, affairs of hra^ departments, instancing a little, county,' vijjaga m Canterbury where i&pOO had been exp»nded on aCburtrhouse which was not; at all necessary. Then the hon, member proceeded to lampoonj^he advertising policy of theu Government, stating that an" advertisement ;ui^ relerenp? to the Timaru' Toluntfirs, which was/ published m a Govern&ient/ organ, $a Christchuroh, and not m Timaru at all.; to, tjhe L*and Tax he. asserted that the whole, department was grossly mismsihaged and the whole thi^g scandalous. But a more, sca^diilpus tiffing was their having, appointed Mr. George ifcCnlloch Beed'as Immigration Agent i» ;&ti<«& ffiw^w«te^|pt^(io

do allots of work for him, had given him the appointment as a bribe, and nothing else, ■ Way, it was a piece of business of which the Premier Jbught to be thoroughly ashamed of himself. He heped the House would put its foot down upon such a piece of work. And the same remarks would appy to Captain Barry— » nondescript animal of whom they all heard a good deal. It was playing ducks and drakes with the money of th*eountry, and was absolutely ce v C *M' - He "«**«&>*«** *Q the New; Zealand Agricultural Land Company^which he characterised;asa' grear public scandal, with which the Government of New Zealand ought never to have been concerned. Be/ l'*"^;^-- 8 * 1 Juliui -TpSfl, the speaker stated that it was absolutely a proposal of j hia that' the immigration depot should be at Falmouth, for w%K phice he intended to put up as a ifteiinber, of Parliament. If the Government did their duty they would at once call upon him to resign his position. IH -°L M^ Sb * ell * n > & Ms longMefence that night, had never mentioned a single word about justice, of which he tras the Minister, and which department was. m a tkorough muddle. Mr, Wakefield pror ceeded to strongly attack the entire management of the. department, and quoted a number of cases to sustain his accusation, and afterwards spoke of the mismanagement of affairs connected with the Treasury and the Native Office. He contended, as he always had done, that the Native question should never become a party question, Lasfc year the Houie approved of the* pohey.of the Government, andnoi»e of them couJ4 .cdmplaih.: j So :that ;he had nothing whatever to'say against that polioy, although he had a good deal to say against the i administration of it. Speaking of the Premier's telegram to the Ha^era settler., Mr. Wake-. field characterised it has the most coldblooded thing he had ever heard of. It was a cruel telegram, a scandal to the conntry, and.castastainlupon the Premier which he would never get over. That telegram alone was quite (sufficient to justify his expulsion from office. He hoped to'see the time when the entire Native Department would be swept away, for ha beJieved it was m a more «w*nd,alo. U s petition tl^an it had fjrer been before. The Native > Minister had not cleaned himself on the charges made, and delicately inad;a against him b^ the leader of the Opposition when speaking to the amendment. With regard' to the " shooting season/ the use of which term by Sir William Fox had been mide so much fuss about, why, it was absolutely made use of by the Native Minister last year, and that very night the Hon Mr. Sheehan had expressed his abhorrence that such an expression should have been made use of by Sir William, Fox. Mr, Wakefleld spoke at great length on the mismanagement of Native a£Eairs, and afterwards attacked the Premier and the Minister of Public Works fpr the parts played by them m the construction of the Thames- Waikato railway, vrhich he stated had cost the country £220,000. , TSUMBDAY*a DB^TBv I When the time arrived for the resuming of the No Confidence debate, The Hon. the Spbakee Baid that as the Hon. the Minister of Publipi Wopks had moved the adjournment of the debate, he would have the right of first addressing the House. The Hon. Mr. Maoand^ewf said he would waive his right m favor of Mr. Turnbull. / ; ; ; .Mr. TrmsmiXL commenced by adverting to the speech of Sir William Foii, which he said was a?bitter disappointment, fdra more wretched one had never been heard. After dofohdijig the action of the Government, he Mid-he was determined t<> flcTJils best to carry out the principles ejauueia^d; uo, thft Governor* Speech. - ~' : '•• -■■'■'■ Jiir. 'Macandbbw upon rising, waatloudTapplauded. He first dealt with Mr. Wakel field'a statements with regard-to the speciatrains and Mr. Luckie's appointment, acl counting for that step by the following rea^ son. Hislattentioh had been called *to Mr. Luckie's abilities uf en the subject of his particular department by articles he had read m an Auckland paper. He said to himself then whoever wrotej those articles ought to be at.the head of ttie department. With regard to the Tapanui railway, he denied that he had the least interests m, it. He admitted that there^ was confusion m the Thaines-^Taikato railway. The I line . was imtended to enable to afford a means of communication between the, people of tbe ; Thames and those: of the Waikato. If the' sum voted fon the' line, '£168,000, was i not exceeded,; then the line would have to be stopped, but h« [•noujdad.yaeatttifcfbsinff taken on the Hamilton. ; .; . ■ '.' "- ',. " -'..' '' •, Mr. Aoton Adams' taunted, the Ministry with having dugracefully broken their p*o' mues, and a| considerable length proceeded tojrfve examples of the breapheß of faith. I The next two speakers wer» MeaJrs. Bowen and Beeves, the latter expressing his intention of supporting tb,?. G^yer^i^ent, followed by - v •' Mr. Bbtob, who did not think the Government had carried out the jwomiaes made at the endt>f, last Session. He,taxed the Government with taking orsdit m the Speech for the Eleptoral Act, which they had been, the cause of frustrating last year. In reference to the Native question he couldonly say that the Ministry should never have brought the. couptry- to; ajj,ch a 1 pass. Mr. Wooioook agreed with. m,uch. of what had been said by the former speaker. ; The Hon. Mr, Fii#ihb defended the Government, which he said was equal to any they had had for a long time. The Hob. H. Nahe merely addressed himself to Native matters, and Mr. Hobbs said it was with censiderabl^ pain he: was about to vote with' the Opposltion, but felt proud of being- called a " rat." Mr. : Htjebxhottsb referred to the way m which: the Premier had striven to set class against class, and proceeded to impeach the Government upon a humier of issues, winding up with ah announcement that he would vote against it, ' „ Mr. Mubbay declared against, and Mr De Lautour fou the Ministry, and the der bate closed for the day. .