Imperial Parliament.

Horowhenua Chronicle, 10 August 1911, Page 3

Imperial Parliament.

AN ANGRY DEBATE.

SIR EDWARD CARSON'S BITTER,

SPEECH

BALFOUII THREATENS TO REPEAL THE VETO BILL.

PROPOSED ABOLITION OF THE

SEPTENNIAL ACT,

LBI «LECTEIO rELEOKAPH-COPyKISHT.]

[PKR PHESB \B8OCV*«l«».i (Received This Day, 11.30 a.m.) LONDON, August 9.

Lord Hugh Cecil's censure motion was defeated by 348 to 200. Gov eminent majority, 139. Sir Edward Ciuvsoji (K.C., Dublin University) seconded tho motion and congratulated Mr Redmond on bringing" tho gmifc Liberal party to its knees. ""Neither Government, nor Commons, ivor Lords, nor Crown were free agents since Mr Asquith's blackmailing letter to the King on November 15th. Ministerial uproar followed this statement, bub the Speaker refused to rule that language was unparliamentary. Sir Edward Carson asked whether tho King was advised of tho effect of his guarantees upon Homo Rule Mf Churchill (Homo Secretary) replied that tho King was acquainted with matters in dispute among which Homo EIIIO was tho more important. Tire reply caused a sensation. Mi , Churchill added that it would be .absurd to say that they made any secret of their intention to uso the machinery of tho Parliament Bill for the passage of Home Rule and other matters. He challenged Mr Balfour to say that he would repeal tho Parliament Bill. Mr Balfour immediately rose and announced that when the Unionists were returned to power they would repeal the Bill, but not without substituting Reform of the Lords. Mr Churchill concluded by outlining the Government's amendments, including a. new clause forbidding the extension of the life of a Parliament beyond five years; also a provision enabling the Speaker to consult the chairman of Ways and Means and the Chairman of Public Accounts before deciding whether aBill was a Money Bill. Sir Heairy Dalziell (Liberal), MiHenderson (Labour), and other Radicals angrily protested against this surrender to the "Die Hards.' ,

The Chancellor of the Exdhcqner (Mr Lloyd George) explained that the proposed change was due. to tho Speaker not desiring to -assume solo responsibility for tho House of Commons.

Finally it was agreed the Speaker should consult two members who should" bo appointed each session from a. panel of chairmen.

Lord Lansdowne's amendment for a Referendum on Homo Rule was rejected by 321 to 211.

A committee consisting of Sir llufus Isaacs, K.C., Mr Churchill, Sir Henry Dalzie.H and .Mr HendeiVion w«s appointed to draw up reasons for disagreeing with proposed amendments. The debate was adjourned. HOME IUJLE. IRISH NATIONALIST'S OLOOMY PIIOIMiKCV. LOXDOX. August n. Mr Hoiuir Law (rnioiiist), devla.! , - e<l tliat Jri>!i would never consent to Home Rule being forced upon •thorn as part of a corrupt parliamentary bargain. Mr William O'Brien s:iiti that he believed not only fTonic I'ule. but the- whole constitutional cleavagewould bo better dealt with by less belligerent and revu'ii.i;>;iary methods. Ho saw yeai\s of bitter party warfare ■ahead in Ireland.

THE MARQI'KvS.S Ol.' , LANSDOWNK'S ADVICK (Received This Diiv, 11. r> a.m.) LONDON. AiiKu.it ». The debate in the House of Lord;; on tho Commons reasons i'i 1; rejecting the Lords amendments :b.as opened? Lord Lansclowno said that ho wa.« convinced that furtlver insistence would 1)0 unprofitable an-l :!r fcriniental to the public interc-.t.v. but bo would not spare efforts to rovcr.se the Government's action in future.