Provincial Council.

Hawke's Bay Times, Volume XII, Issue 490, 11 July 1867, Page 2

Provincial Council.

Til U It 3 D A Y , -t t u J U L Y. I in: Council met at 3 p.m. Present, — • ‘-e tspeaker and ail the members except Locke a:,,( .;u!t.»a iiie minutes ol the last meeting were read and confirm d. A nan .NATION OF fOVERTY BAY. Air dAAALK asked the CMvcrnmcnt—VUi.o’m r they intend on bdialf of jiie Province to lake any further steps towards the annexation h tee iWr.y Pay or southern pinion of l.w ..lieKi.ciii Province, and wbetner anv cenvoe j-; ..Klee has taken place, at any time between thebe,o Lh'uvie. aal (uivaaeica's on the snhject, an,i if to that the corresponi-ence be laid on iiie tabic. 'j would review the past and present histon of the subject to which it referred. J,. ■VO'lid be in (he memory of thos • who were' .•nemetrs ot the Into Council, that list ses I sion a similar question was put bv one of me members. They wou.d remember t!u reply given by the member for Boranaa \ nan. lie iiad not personally ;ioa>al the: reply, but. he spoke from Ins recollection op what he saw reported in the papers at tlup 'ituc. The member for Poenngahau dull not deny the right of the Council to ask, such a question, but bis reply was to tin-; ‘•licet that he and his colleague hi tile, liouse of -Representatives had sorted their' cards, but did not intend to slmw them! han i to the Council, lest thev should spoil! their little game. [Mr Okmoxd denied having used the term “little game.”] It might hare been “ game ” alone. He was qu ting from memory. AVer he contended that this reply was both discourteous to the Council and impolitic. Ihie wa-. the Government should have acted, wmuld'hav,. been, to use their own si rule, to have thrown their earn- on the tabic, that the Council might see exactiy now the gaum stood. Hie Council, he ‘believed, would m this case hare taken the only pivpm steps under the circumstances, directed the superintendent to communicate with the Superintendent of Auckland on the subject, stating the grounds on which the annexation was desired—clie wish of the inhabitants, the accessibility of the district■ to this province, and the invaluable scr i rices re (the Superintendent) had rendered to tne inhabitants. If the Crovormnei.t! iiad acted in an open ami straightforward j manner like tins, there was no doubt that; iiie Auckland Government would have conceded the district to them, as the Superintendent of that Province had been known lo state that he did not care about

the didru-t, but was forced into the action he took by the underhand proceedings of jthe Hawke's Bay Government, j Mr ORMOND rose to order. He read (a Standing Order providing that no allujsion should bo made to past debates, and |-ha "’as seurchint; for another which said that no member should be allowed to maka any remarks on putting a question. The SPEAKKR requested the member to allow the member for Porangahau soma time to search for the rule he had alluded to. Mr ORMOND said that he was ur.ablo jiu ii;ud the mlo he referred to, and would | not detain the member any longer. He | was. however, sure ttiat such a rule exited. I Mr TANNER continued. He repeated itint the reply was discourteous to the Council, Surely they were entitled to be :consulted about the action of the Govern* !merit. It was not for the Executive to j arrogate to th.•nisei res the power to dictate no the Council the action they were to itake. The very word “ Executive ’’ sh ewed ■ the duties of that body. The Council was !a deliberative body, and decided upon the course the province was to take upon any ■ matter, and the duty of the Superintendent and Executive wa* to carry their decisions into edict. The Kx-cutivo were (he servants of the 0 uneil, and not their mas* t.rs; and \et one o'' that body insulted the Council by calling it a Parochial Board. What member of a par;chin! board would net in important matters indenendently of, and without the consent of, the other members F The notion taken was impolitic, because the Govemmc.it must have known that the answer would

j anpear in the papers, must be seen by the ! Auckland Government ; who, seeing taut 'I I here was an umler-current at- work to dis- ■ possess llu-m of th-ir laud, would naturally !bo on the qui rire to frustrate it. If 1 any province Wellington, for i .stance — sougnt to extend its territory, and was to encroach upon this province, we should expect our members to light to the best of their ability to prevent such an act of injustice, lie should bo sorry to be misunderstood ; he il l not wish to impute unw-.rthv m -gives to the Government ; out it seeme i as if when they saw the sun ■of Auckland's pro-penty selling—the seat of Government removed to \\ ctliugtnn — ihc war expenditure stopp'd—that they silt'd with t!ie strongest party, and attempted to ad ninister anotsier kick 10 t:;e ■b leu man. Whatever advantage might leave been derived from the annexation, he congratulated the province tnat tney jdid not acquire it by any -itch act of -poi Station. 11 this hml p is-u-d, ami at.y la-ger jp evince ha ! attempted to absorb -ms one, ! it eouhl not I'.'lVe rais ’d any objeetio .to |such action. He quito exoected to be ioid Ifr-nri the oppouic site that the general j-• ’.le of li s remarks was soti.ewiia: oud'ijcions in so young a member, and Ih it he ’showed a want of the requisite awe an I j veticrat ion for the Govermuenv. i i this j was tile ease, his only ap nogy was, mm ;,c jliud i'Cen told bv phrenologist* that he end juot i 1 ‘as- es 3 tile or.aii oi veneration, aie ! would remind the member ior i’orangaiuu jtUiit he was as old a colonist as himself, iU'l that though not quite so old a pod'ieiau, he had always taken the deepest nd--rest in the well’-re of the province and colony. He considered such arguments as lie had mentioned a sign of Weakness, j Let every quc.-Lou be decided upon its ; merits, and not vvliether it was introduced I by an aueim.it or i mod rn politician. I "Air 11;!( ’!) iid -aid that the Uovornjment intended to take no lurtlier steps in tim matter, and that th-rc was uo correspondence on the su’’],et-. expenses or mi: -rpnitis court. Air CAUL VOX moved—i For n Vi-tiirn of the expenses appropriated to I tills I‘roviaee Ihr the hohnag oi a Sapreuie Court r,t Napier, uu--l tor a Ucturu of the number of cases hi Civil an 1 Criminal winch have been tried ;ai the Supreme Court at Nupier, with their rc- ! Air WF.ST->N* seconded the motion, vvi.ie i was agreed to. : t.UVI'iC'.TUiX or THISTLES, ; Air WOUP in wed— For leave to bring in a IA.II for the eradication 'of Thistles within eerlaui deliued districts. I—lie said it was not usual to make any I remarks at this Mage of the bill, but in this ea-e he wi-lu’ i to inter a few words of explanation before tile second reading camo on. The permissive clause was expunged, .and tiie operation of Lie bill intended to Lie restricted to two or three limited districts. Toe boundaries of four or five districts had been spccilied on the schedule, land it would depend upon the feeling of I oilier members whether they would all ho | retained ; but, so far as lie was concerned, die would only press for two—the (own |and suburban land of Havelock, and part lot the Alohaka block. In both these cases |the constituencies had asked for such protection as tins bill was intended to aiibrd. Air DOLIS ML seconded the motion. Lc*:ive was or.i.ii.fa ; ilio bill was rend 5 I ilrst time : ordered to be minted ; and its Nv'coi-d reading made an order o. the day | or Tuesday next. I WLLU.NUTOX r-EBT. I Air WOOD asked his Honor the Superj intendriu —■ i Whether a Hetarn moved for in h«t Council die Mr Wnk.nsoa, and groans-d by the Govemh'.ier.t, is liK.'ly shortly to be laid on the table, to Uiiii.v me total re.vuaml paid by the Hawke's Bav dh-jvne.ee on i«e.-.>aut eftne go-called) Wei im floe | debt. distinguhaie.g the preo-m-tuni of such amount iintended tor p, a \uu.it of imcre>t from that in|tended to be applied ghrougu lac mediant of a fund) toward reducing tiic. principal | ihe return in question had been asked Iter last session, and was one tuai would Igive souse valuable information.

Mr ORMOND said that the government was now m a position to furnish the return required. Hitherto, all statements received on the subject had been confused and almost unintelligible. Now, however, a definite statement and a return could br prepared, such us would be ol some use to members. Owing to press of work, a few days would elapse before it could be laid on the table. PAPAKCRA. .*>'!> HIEUTOIO BLOCK. Mr WESTON moved For a R-turu showing the acreage of the Papakara and llikatato IMacln-,. rbc i::;:;;.-m v-.f the lessees of the s:C!)e. the qeeatirv suh-irt to rt the amount ot annual rental pavable thereon, aul a copy of the Leases granted by the Provincial Government. —lt was not improbable that the subject of those leases might yet come under discussion, and it was desirable tint the Council should have before it all necessary information. Mr KiiO LIES said that a copy of the case would be laid on the table at once, and that the return would be prepared in a day or two. CHIEF POST OFFICE. Mr SUTTON net being in his place, the following notice lapsed ; That all correspondence be laid on the table between the Provincial and General Government respecting ilie removal of the Chief Post Udiee to a more central and convenient site.

Ou notice given by Mr WOOD, it was again placed ou the paper. PUBLIC CEUEXEEIES. Mr TIFFEN moved— For leave to bring in a bill for the Regulation of Public Cemeteries. Leave was granted ; the bill read a first time ; ordered to be printed ; and its sccond reading made an order of the day for Tuesday. church peoi’eety at te aute. Major LA .MB ER-T u.ovi d That the Government will inform the Connell if any application lias been made, tu the Trustees of the Church properly at Te Ante, with a view of obtaining some assistance towards tile educational purposes of the ITuvince. —As an educational tax was in eontempla tioa his motive was to call the attention ot the public to a large and valuable property at Te Ante, which was set apart for educational purposes lie wished the Govern meut to n-k the trustees whether any par; of the income devlv d from this property could not be applied to assUiug the education fin’d of the Province, Air ORMUAO said that the land in question was church property; liaii g been granted pnttly by the natives Ji. thought if the Govcrmu -it asked the pro posed question, the reply would not be agree,line. Alter some further discussion the motion was agreed to. CATTLE TitUSPASS. On the nunion el dir CARLYON’ the C nineil went it.LO.Coiumiltoe on the catll T/equ-s Bill. Alt' : r a c ri.-..f-raoie per non of the bill had bee i considered, the Chairman reported prog-ess, and the Council adjourned till next day.