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The Daily Telegraph. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1884.

At the meeting of the Chamber of Commerce yesterday a letter was read from the secretary of the London Chamber of Commerce on the subject of federation between the Mother Country and its colonies. The London Chamber recognises the difficulty of such a federation while deeply sympathetic : towards a scheme that would bring the _ old . and new . English speaking: communities into an interested union as consumers and producers. The letter is in the form of a circular and has, probably, been sent to every Chamber of Commerce to be found in the British colonies. The subject of -federation is a complicated and difficult one, dependent, as the Loudon Chamber says, on the org-anisation of detail, and which -will require much consultation, deliberation, and mutual concession before a scheme can be organised which can be put forward publiclyand submitted to the various Parliaments interested. Tho colonial Chambers are accordingly requested to supply hints as to the direction in which it may be desirous ; for commercial associations to move in the -1 first instance. In proportion to the support ( this invitation receives at tlio hands of the ] colonies, so will the London Chamber of j Commerce be prepared to bring the subject seriously before the public of England, and advance,it a. stage towards .making it a maftcrforgravo political and diplomatic con- y sideration. Subject to correction, weareunder the impression that it was not until tho A , federation of -the Australasian colonies was mooted that this idea of Imperial federation s was brought forward. It-thus acts in much ' t] the same way, as a red-herring drawn, across the scent of a pack of hounds, and the ques- , tion of the federation of these colonies ac- £ cordingly did not receive nearly the support „ it merited; because it was thought that it interposed _ome sort of barrier against Im- .' penal"federation. Lord Norton, in a paper II he recently: contributed to The Nineteenth ; a Century shows the impossibility of Imperial j federation. He says, tho proposition-of " colonial incorporation, or of federation with tl the Empire mubt resolve itself -practically s l pito' one' or other of- these' two issues .-*-■ Q{

Either the colonies must abandon much of :the powers of self-government which thoy now enjoy, and hand them over to a Parliament of some sort sitting in London, of which only a twentieth part would consist of colonists, and those coming from widely different parts of the world. Or therf. must be a Federal Constitution, under the Monarchical Head, with an Imperial Congress, and State Legislatures including that of the United Kingdom restricted from dealing with the Imperial concerns. Lord Norton goes on to say that, " there is about •. as much chance of the English people turn- V ing their ancient Parliamentary system into '' - such a constitution as of ,their,deliberatety restoring feudalism or the Heptarchy.- It is hard to get the smallest and most necessary constitutional changescarriedih this'country, and a Minister coming, down to the.'.Hqusc with a proposal for abolishing Parliament, andissuing writs for a Federal Congress would be immediately consigned "to Bedlam." The difficulty is to define the limits,, we had almost said the meaning, of. federation. Would the colonies and England agree to undertake a common liability in matters that had been determined to be; of..common interest, though unequally affecting them all? Lord Norton .thinks not. The main subjects for any comprehensive national council are such as relate to commerce, or to defence and war. Would Canada agree to give up to the Imperial Council her present powers of fiscal regulation? Would,.she, when in con cert \vith England and the.other colonies, be ready to reduce her tariff to uniformity of system, -"or. to- general.free- :- dom? or would her. colleagues in council compel her to conform to their decision, if, indeed, they could agree to any? There would be just as muchdifficultj-* in : coming to an agreement concerning joint liability in the event of a war at the; Cape or in India. Regarding-then Imperial federation as an impossibility, Lord Norton goes on fo say, "the stronger our colonies become, the more capable, .they are of. taking: and maintaining' , their ; , place in the community of.the Empire. .The, union of neighboring provinces, which . we. have carried out in Canada, and are now prosecuting, in Australia is.:; as ■ practically important as theoretically desirable. For the groups of Canadian and Australian colonies federation is not only a possibility, but a policy of the highest and most obvious value. It.will- develop' bpfh their intemarf association and their , external strength, qualifying them as members, .not dependencies of an Empire. It will create a sense of- nationality instead, of provincial feeling, and. give them consciousness of greater position in the world. It .will insure the dignity and high conduct of selfrespect, and the respect of- otheiv nations in their dealings with them." ....../j' There was no business at the R.M. Court this morning. '■•"..' -•■ Messrs. Appleby and Dean have seceded from the Dunning Opera' Company. * .; The Clive Square. Improvement Committee will meet this evening at the usual hour. ' "_,. .V ;; „ ;: ;./._/;... ;Y, h The programme for the concert on Friday eveiling at Petane' appears in another • column; "■•* ■•'.:■;■• ,- .-•'.- ■' + The distribution of the £4000 Parliamentary vote for public'librarics will take place on February 8 next. ; . .'-,' ,;: '" . .Two brothers were buried in one grave recently at Hokitika, the \ cause of V death being diphtheria. "' '.'.'.' A notice of special interest to carpenters and handy men will-be found,in our advertising columns. , j" ; • ; .-. = -.. ~- :: •>-,, Blenheim how boasts of a pack of hunting harriers. ' Next season "the Wairau club will hunt'them with a drag."' Messrs Murray, Roberts and Co. have received a cable r message that the next wool sales will" commence ;' on the '20th January. ■•'•'" ■■'■'• "' •-'■-'-''.'''"■■"' .. ,Li one of the Christchurch consultations on the New Zeala nd Cup first iuid second prizes went to the one man— : a carpenter;- -Lucky earpeuter !'■ ,- • Barry Sullivan will make another tour of ■ the colonies shortly; he will be accompanied by two competent actresses for Shakespearian parts. A Asa sign of the,latenes8 r pf theseaspn,, a contemporary says, we may mention we observed a farmer in the Bulls district^^H ■ sowing:wheat on"* Friday last. A London- shirt-maker advertises - thai^^^J he has received testimonials' from and the "King of the Maoris." the world of fashion also possesses J^^^^^^^H On the Recreation .the Phoenix and Rovers Play will commence at The clubs play their|^^^^^^^^^^H The Now Zealand Times is r^^^^^^^^^^H rumor to the effect that thc^^^^^^^^^^H the Ministry has been' d_turS^^^^^^^H falling out of Sir Julius Vog^^^^^^^^H A contemporary, says' that iii a on Sunday the llitli November," a sermon was, preached on General tho preacher being under tne impressioii^^H ■ that, the,;hero of Khartoum had met.his death. ',' ' V . /\ , ,'.,,.. ', '.' The Theatre Royal had again,,a. fair audience., last, night, the , diver in full . "rogalia" being an object of interest. Tonight the exhibition will be , brought to a close. At 9 o'clock-there will bean auction sale of a number of the exhibits. ... > •Colonel-Sir: Archibald C. Campbell, of Blythswood, has been unanimously nominated for election us Grand * Master"' to: the Grand Lodg-e of Freemasons of Scotland, in succession to the Earl ; ,of Mar and Kellie, who retires on St. Andrew's Day. A Wellington.-storekeeper is doing a largo business in tinning fresh and salted butter for India, Fiji, and China. The tins are gotup on the American system, and contain from one to seven pounds each. 'Tori.hands are employed in the business. Private letters- from Wellington state that there, is a likelihood of a cricket team from that city visiting Napier during the Christmas week. Nothing has yet been finally fixed, but-in view, of such a visit our local cricketers should look to tlieir laurels. * r : The Church of England Sunday schools' children held their annual pic-nic to-day at Tomoana. Mustering shortly after ten o'clock at St. John's schoolroom, the children marched to the railway station, and were conveyed by tho 11.5 train to the beautiful paddock selected for their day's amusement. •*" xl Wellington correspondent writes:— "In regard to the Treasury, it is stated that the services of most, if not all,' of the unmarried officials will bo shortly dispensed with,.they receiving the compensation to which they lire entitled.'' The same writer says the Railway Audit Department is to be abolished. A telephone exchange has .been established at Oaiharu with 36 members. If our local Chamber of Commerce, instead of discussing Imperial federation, 'would give its attention to' the s establishing of a telephone exchange, it would :be doiug very much better work than it can ever expect to flow from the larger question. i".-j£;;;. :<: The Ruapehu which left Christchurch yesterday for London, had the. largest mail yet taken by a direct steamerY It consisted ; of about 8000 \ letters and 4600. books and newspapers. She left Lyttelton' wharf at 10 a.m., and anchored off Camp Bay, wait- ! ing-for.her papers, &c, till afewminutes past 4 : p-m., when she finally got m^r weigh. , . . V*'-,.".'-. r The Kennedy Family of after returning from New Zealand, opened their concerts in the Music Hall, Edinburgh, on Monday, 6th of October. -The Scotsman says of the " auldman ".—" His tour seems to havo mellowed him, and to have put more Scottish fooling, if that wero possible, into his rendering of the mirthful songs : which it is his delight to interpret." Tlio Rev. Mr Steuberg, of Makaretu, is at present in town, and would be glad to receive the amounts promised - towards building a littlo church for;'.the Scandinavian settlers in that district." Mr Stenberg will.also" be glad to receive further contributions in aid of ,tjie building : in that struggling''district, -ivhich may bo paid at this office. The "Claimant's" friends mean to carry things with a high hand. Mr Edmund _imber.says ;—" Not only will Sir Roger fichborne .on his release seek the very earliest opportunity of again swearing thut ie is Sir Roger Tichborne, but he will bring. Mi; action for libel against any newspaper ■vh'o ventures to call him an impostor, and n that action lie will conclusively prove .hat he has been the victim of as foul a con•piracy as ever disgraced any civilised jountrv."

evening,:Deceniber; sth; there an entertainment; in; St.- Andrew s Spit, in aid of .the prize fund for the local State, school. We. hope the entertainment may.be "a/financial. success, and result, in the prizes being more valuable than ever, when the time for distributing them comes. Some good tales of the bookmakers are told by the Australian sporting correspondent of a ■ Southern contemporary. I nose who remember the first steeplechase ever ran in Canterbury could tell a good stoiy of A how that race was won, by the writer in question, the other horses being disqualified for not going the correct course. The "-old chronometer presented to Mr J W Craig, by the St. Paul's congregation is a handsome time-piece by Thos. Russell and Sons, London, and was purchased at' Mr 'Co-Hedge's estaohshment, Hastin"-5-street. The case is quite plain with the exception 0 f the letters J.W.C. in monr.'?ram at the back. Inside the ca«c is the following inscription ':—" Presented to J. Wilson Craig "by the: congregation of St. Paul's Presbyterian Church, as a token of their esteem. Napier, 26 November, 1854." In reference to the election of members of the Central Board of directors of the Government Life Assurance Association, Mr G.S. Graham, of Wellington, solicits the support of the Hawke's Bay policy holders. Mr Graham is well known throughout the whole of New Zealand. He was for many years the General manager of the' Colonial Insurance office, and previously had-been connected with the Norwich Union Life office. No one better qualified for the position could be selected than Mr Graham. ' In reference, to lung worm a correspondent of the : Rangitikei Advocate writes:— "I have no doubt that the lambs take up the ova of the worm filar ia bronchitis in their food, which is deposited on the soil by the older sheep, through whom it has passed comparatively harmless to them. Hence it is obviously necessary to put the lambs at wcaiiiug time on fresh and clean land, such as stubbles and rape, turnips, rye, green oats, etc., as a preventive, and tending to support the constitution, and so enabling it to resist and throw off the disease ere mischief is done. ■ .......... A-valuable gold chronometer was presented to Mr J. W. Craig last evening, by the members of St. Paul's Church, for his services as honorary secretary and treasurer, as well as Sunday ■ school superintendent. The Rev. D. Sidey made the presentation, which we should add was accompanied by the usual address, and eulogised Mr Craig for the ability and earnestness with which he had carried out his various duties. The recipient, who ; was taken-by- surprise, suitably replied. Tho annual meeting of St. Paul's Church was held last evening, tlio Rev. J. G. Paterson .presiding. Mr J.W. Craig read the statement of accounts,- showing receipts £1413, 18s lOd, the expenditure amounted to £1,279 '3s 7d, leaving a balance of £134 15s 3d. Included in tho expenditure were £201 : 13s 2d for an overdraft, £277 '5d for enlargement of church, and £212 17s Id for repairs to class-rooms, manse, erecting stable, &o. The report was adopted.. On the motion of the Rev. Mr Campbell seconded by Mr McVay the pastor's stipend was increased to £350. ' Messrs McVay, J. W. Craig, ; : aud T. Sidey were elected managers for the ensuing year. Addresses were afterwards delivered by the Revs. _ J.G. Paterson, Cornford, and Sidey. During the evening the choir gave sacred selections at intervals. Mr Aplin presided at the organ. Indian needlework is pretty and shows. the wonderful patience of tho race. English' patcliwork quilts are reckoned marvels_ of industry, bnt we have discovered something that puts both in the shade. The matting, that does duty at the Supreme Court, has been undergoing repairs during the last few days, and the completed work'must be pronounced a marvel of ingenuity andpar.simoniousn'ess combined: Pieces are stitched, bound, and put in position, which it would have been a charity to discard. If economy ■been a failure, , wide by two sic or costly; as ng and shaping ngsome seven i pieces, beautides—caused by comiriend this I ut in future we I find a better t." ■-■ writes:—"Sir •n in . the world icr his eclipse another questhe eloquence ?erted .him .on Ec .has been in. all ; kinds ; of the " un- j have all been nd hia oratory j liamentary. air. : nod bargain for i' following are n get. in/other. y remains as yhich ..his..age, commanded is ifluence in the liament at any rate."

The fancy dress ball, which has been quite the talk among the ladies in Taradale i'or4he past month or so, came off last Tuesday night in tho new Oddfellows' hall, the hall having been decorated for the occasion. Dancing commenced about 9 p.m., and continued up to about 3.30 a.m., with the usiial intermission' for supper. The following dresses among the married ladies call for special attention, being in every sense "fancy "and suitable to the wearer : —MrsAV. tieslop " Dame' Crump," Mrs S F Anderson "Five o'clock tea," Mrs Drummond "Highland Lass," ..Mrs Naylor "Hospital Nurse," Mrsßan-y "Colleen | Bawn." Among the young ladies Miss Bessie Hammond "Gipsy Girl,'" Miss Hardim? "Tambourino Girl," Miss Andrews ''~ u Sailor 'Lass," Miss Kavanagh "Blush Rose," Miss Harrison " Strawberry Girl." Among the little girls Lottie Naylor as "Red Riding Hood" and Sissy Ryan as "Starlight." looked very nice. The dresses among the gentlemen worthy of mention were—Mr J. Drummond "Artillery Officer," Mr AY. Lord " Sailor," Mr W. Poole "Tyrolese Peasant," Mr Fred. Poole " Highlander,'' Mr ' Joseph Jcffarcs Irish character ("Hairy Hoolan ") Mr A. Smith "Naval Petty' Officer," Mr Lorrigan "Jockey," colors port-wine, Mr AY. Healop "Jockey," colors light-blue, MiFrank Hammond "Footballer," Messrs T;Waldrou aud Skelton "Cricketers," MiNicholas, negro character " Bories." Master Reginald ' Alexander as " King of Hearts " wero very attractive. A considerable number of ladies and gentlemen were present in oveniug dress. Mr Newbould as pianist gave overy satisfaction. After wo wont to press yesterday Mr Ormond continued his remarks on federation.': He said the question would, come up if the chamber were to attempt to deal with a question like this by resolution, which the Parliament had expressed its inability to do without knowing the opinions of the pejple, surely they : would: be rather premature. He thought also thj Chamber, would agree: that the questions arising out: of federation would ho too political, for the first lead to come from a body like that. Chamber. • He viewed . the circular from the London Chamber as being more an enquiry in the lino of trade and commerce than the larger question of the federation of the Empire. The question was one which the Chambers of Commerce would find it very difficult to define any general,views upon, or to give hints to tho. Home Chamber without very nyftturc consideration and a- coucert of opinion of the- other Chambers in' the country.-, ; Many points would not occur to them,.in: connection with trade and commerce, which ..would, occur in the large . centres. So far as ho had heard, the other Chambers' of Commerce had thought it better to defer an answer to the question for the present, and had been waiting to see what came of the matter when Parliament again met. The general conclusion he had come to was that it would be well to inform tho Chamher of Com-merce-in London -which had written the letter to them, that the question of federation was only partially considered by the Legislature l ast session, and that it was one of such large importance that the Chamber of Commerce thought it would be premature to ex-Dress an opinion until they knew more dcfiuitcly what line the Legislature was to take on it. After a short discussion Mr OrWonil's views were adopted, and after j_rMar<> : oliouth had been elected a member the- meeting- adjourned. ' : " A : French gentleman, viewing a cricket match at Lords, in 'London, asked a neigh£fiMto the difference .between

"gentleman" and "player,", and. got the answer, - f ' A""' gentleman:' is'*6ne'*\vh6'pays for* play; a 'player,'is .one who plays for pay." '." Thanks," "replied, the French-/ man, "then that gamin I 'asked just now was right... He there, was,a '1.1 of a difference."-"' '' y ,\ '•'-•' : '•;

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Daily Telegraph (Napier), Issue 4165, 27 November 1884, Page 2

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The Daily Telegraph. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1884. Daily Telegraph (Napier), Issue 4165, 27 November 1884, Page 2

The Daily Telegraph. THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 1884. Daily Telegraph (Napier), Issue 4165, 27 November 1884, Page 2

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