LICENSING BILL.

Dominion, Volume 7, Issue 2214, 29 July 1914, Page 4

LICENSING BILL.

;■; NATIONAL PROHIBITION ISSUE. ,-THE 55 PER CENT. REJECTED.

.' THE COUNCIL \ The Legislative Council met at 230 p.ni: i \ DOMINION TRUST COMPANY. [ The Hon W H WIGRAM moved the second reading of the Dominion j Trust Companj of Now Zealand (Limitf cd),Bill Tlio Bill is to confer powers upon tho Dominion Trust Company of New Zealand, Ltd , to act as executoi. trustee, liquidator, and guardian, and to perform and dischargo all tho duties of such office The company may act as executor of estates, etc, and act in other'wajs foi pmato peisons TjiQ Hon J DUTHIE thought tho I Bill was _ t orj involved, and touched upon" various issues which called for a fuller explanation than had been Riven , t Ho;aKajs liked'to-foster private enterpi isoj .it tho simo timo the Bill would I i largely infringe upon the Public Trust Office, and he did not know whj there was>tho necossit) for the Bill being in-1 trodiiced. Ho did not know whcthei it was proposed to allow tho company to speculate with any money in their 'possession. Ho_ thought some provision should bo'mado'foi tho keeping of trust i accounts Tim Hon n W F .WIGRAM said that I ho understood tho Public TrusteoSwas' not raising anj objections to thVsßill As to the _of tho suggested trust'fund account, raised by tho Hen.. Mr \Duthie,- ho .nojdd .reply to that on occasion \ would answer I questions "on fhd thud reading Tho v BiU #oad~a second tune, and referred 1 to tho jCommitteo of Selection , I LAND'.TAX AND INCOME TAX. | Tlio Land Tat and Ircomo Ta\' 'Amendment Bill was introduced and I read a> first .time. ,/v';:'lab|&e^^ '■;:/■■ ■.:■. '•■■•'■•:'/■ 3,''':: '■/.V :■• ;prpvisjpn;;was^made,.in :i t]ie. i :Bill.fgr S'::--tli6\payment>of 'memhers ?:H:< , \:;',^:.: 'i -■ •:■: : % < ,;■ - The Hon: BELL' replied that' pro-': •; :i vision could not be-made in the.Council: ; .;.Itwould-be made;in another place..;. . , . The Hon. 'Mr. George thought some ; ,'; penalty-6houl&be.puti.on:eandidates.'.;who ■ v; '.■'..- : wept"to"tlio polls, and did not get a: ' .;l,'. stipulated number of votes;•' Otherwise :;■: there might' be an oxcessivo number- of :'• i>- : candidates; :-■.'• ■■'-, ■ ■ i ••:■'£." ■:-' . :' The. '-.-■'): edjany •ide^'thij'tlle;iie^ > ineinb,ers .were V : ; simply Gbvornhientiiomihees, appointed to.r.pass .the Bill, iHe.tbbk exc'eptioh''to :| ■■■'■■:.■ .•;a'-;iojnark''of."the Hon. G. Jones that' • ."he would nob crawl on his hands and 7 .. ;■: ! knees to/ariy dominant party." ,;.:/;,;;: -The Hon, G. JONBSSfeplied that he .';'; highly respected'.tho newj'membfers,!;,His ■■'; - :reference was.only to himself. !-: .The Hon. J.-BARR protested against V; ■' the size of the proposed electorates. ;He j ;. ";i y held.that it" would'be more .'suitable'to ' VV. bi.)?e'smalUr/„eleAtfli'atfes ; ;an'd proposed .. ~'•■■ asTjin amendment that-instead of hay- . inp four" electorates'-'tHey "should have' eight.' '.The'.--whole matter"; of ..pro'jior-; . .-. tidnal representation rested on the size, V. : : of'the c,lector.ates,>nd'hewould caU.for ':■■:'■ a division on his amendment. •.-'• r .The.Hpnr-H.'i.'BßLL'-;said; : 'that : the' .-.;'."■ r amendment" was" ai'direct/blow- against -~.,, thb: pplicyof. the'Bill;- It was necessary . ■;; : that the,Senate;should .consist of .men . who had served the'State,,ahd wefo'well ,i- : known." It - 'was' jnoti'.'desirea. that 'they . should be'elccted from 'small electorates, ~y on.'someiiocal issued .;7ir ■•.-;-;■.■'.'- - IThe Hon. q.-LOUlSSON.thought the Hon. Mr. Barr; was "too'' modest in his amendment. His original suggestion "-:. : . Was that there should be; forty electorates. In the.large electorates members .outside - the, largo organisations; would ,i'..' ; not'stand a chance. . ; . -N •. "' ,: ;';The Hon. J : . DpTHIE said that surely - the, matter j was discussed fully \at the second,reading. It w - as the crucial part of }. the-Bill, and.should.be conceded., at ■■i ' least hy those .who voted on .the' Bill. '•?'T . 'Personally, he -.was l opposed; td : .the Bill, ,-. and left the -Council;, in'-order, not to .'"■• TOto. '■ ' ■.'■'''."■ •.■'.■' ; jTho Hon. J. BARB saidthat.whi.lo he .' supported'.'the Bill : on the second' read- .. - lijgi he iWas opposed to portions,,of. it. and now":.was liis.timo to protest.and move amendments. : The: Government \voiild still .have an opportunity to ex- .' '.■.-■ p'erimentwith, proportional ■ representa- • ' tion-by-'increasing the number of "electorates to eight. ;Bv taking a division .-.' theywoujd test th'ofeeling of tho'whblo "Council'on the question of. proportional " ■:.' representation, ; ; and. largo electorates.' j, ■'-.';: ■■!;.; Vi > v - ■■ The Dlulsion; , V ; , ■■■■■_ '■ uTho .amonthiieht'..was .lost, by ,14 : ; votes "'"•■': tovlO. ■;,..',:..,..; 'The division was as follows: —, .■•' (14)— The Hbns. Bell, Duthie, MacGibbon.-Earushaw,. Moore, M;Lean, ' - CollinsV Fisher t 'Hall-Jones; -Morgan', Hardy, Maginnity.'Wigrani, and Simp- . '. -' v 'v.Jfoes'(lO).—The Hon's. Bsillio, George,- """'"' Barr, Louisson, Jones, Bephan, Baldey, Harris,: Thompson;- andutfills. >-r. '.'Progress .'was reported and tho.Coimj. cil'adjourned,at 4:'s3p;niJ '. ",' '•;*;