MANAWATU A. & P. SOCIETY

Dominion, Volume 6, Issue 1720, 10 April 1913, Page 10

MANAWATU A. & P. SOCIETY

/ CONFERENCE REMITS,' •" \ "At tlie monthly meeting ,of .tlie Mana-. watu A. and P. Association on • Tuesday "... tho chair was occupied by Mr. T. Hod-; iter.- It was • decided; to' 'donate '<620.' .to* |' ' wards a Manawatu court at tho forthcom- | : inji 'Auckland exhibition. • - Mr. Conway moved:'' That it : bo'a re'-; mit to tho A. and P. Associations' ;anniial'conference 'that this committee is of opin- ' ion that a governing body, to be known' as the National Agricultural and Pastoral Societies'' ot 1 "other' suitablo, 1 ..name should-bo established.'" Mr. Lancaster supported the movement, ; ■ and considered it a splendid idea. ' !•: .< Tho'chairman stated that the matter had been talked about for years past. It was desirable-that A. aud I\. Societies in. ' Now Zealand should' have a recognised governing body. It was agreed ,to send | . forward the remit. • 1 . Tho registration of stallions was dis- : cussed, and Mr' IC. Dalrymplo -moved ' that a remit be sent to the-A. .and-K Conference pointing out,the /desirability ; of. registration of stallions. Mr. E. Short supported Mr. Dalrymple, and tho motion, was carried. ;/, -• , ; A'third remit, that.th 6 Government he 'Olsked to take steps to jirovent cows sjif-: f fering from nMnimitis: being, sold'as dairy. - ■ . cows, was agreed to. ' " The New Zealand Jersey Breeders'; Association wrote stating that moffils-'fo'r male and female Jerseys woul4,'}|<s, offered . under tho usual conditions ...for competition at next spring show, subjcct to | . usual conditions, the jm!go;.to,be elected from the. official , list :o{, tils, association. The medals were ■ Mr. I\ 11. Cook,o wrote offering to do- ' nato $St .to.the association.,funds. -J The Department of Agriculture ■ wroto '' etnting that they. had. learned .that,.Gov-, ernm-ant stock at the show was net-alto-gether welcome to-somo exhibitors. The Department .v.as % not. anxious to' ' - stock on ,'extensive"lines, but it - .would be !.. ' unfortunate if 'tho Bcpartfheht 'was. eii- _ ■ ' ■ tirely debarred" from some cpmpetitidns,1. Ms, lor instance,, tho, Holbein :stcck'.'fr'pm' . WereroaV, It was desirable, ill the .inter-; ests.of the .'community, that the matter. ' should bft brought betore the .'plfblic, ami: it was also an .advantage'to th's-'Depart-v luent to have-their stock judged in tho ' usual competitions. To taike' stock ! to' a tihrw for exhibition only ■'was decidedly <"/■ undesirable," 'as it was comparison * th'iit. was sought. • •" ■■■ ■.''••', :• Mr. Slack considered it unfair to have ; Government competition, as.in time ..they would drive out tfe:small breeder. -The Government had the iiioney and could . afford good stock, ;but .it, was;wrong,; to allow them to/compete. .He favoured allowing ,tli6 Government, .'to; show;.,in J;thp, ; -. classes,-but iictifcr competition with .pri- . vato breeders. Mr. Slack ,moved, .acr,. cordance with his remarks.-, . , Mr. M'Hardy said ho,.a.grccd:.with Mr. Slack, but' ho .thought it -was a'matter for, ■ / the conferenco to:decide. Mr, Jacobs then, moved, as an 'amend-;'. ;; ment that the matter bo dealt-with at the | ■ conference.' . ..r-.-i ,i- ---: Mr. Harlcness -failed to. see why "the, !' Government ehouhb. bo excluded,' It. ivas f to the."benefit of oil." breeders,'to,Mfo.!tho' i , Sery best stock shown. ~ ; Tlw amendment in favour of !'scn3-ing tho matter to the cpnfcrpnco y-ns carried. A letter was received from Mr. W. P. Archibald, according,,'to the""Manawatu' j., Times", report of the meeting, .alleging that an injustice had been, done him,'at a'j. ! committee,meeting held on. October 8 last, | when Mr. J. M. Johnston made certain statements regarding his notion in conniicI • tion' with • the' draught, horse; champion; s- challcngo 'shield. After , waiting for .fair! j- explanations, tho writer. .was reluctantly ! compelled to seek the association's' pro- ! (C'dlon. ■■;. ■ \ ■■ j v. Mr. Jacob .said it was not a question of. Mr. Archibald' v; tho committee, but between: the-Hawke's Bay. horso breeders and the. (iomniittee. Tlio poation was this": Mr: Archibald niul others collected . for two shields in tho horso section, and . stipulated, certain,-measurements in tho , conditions. The shields were -accepted. | Tlio Horso Committee deliberated ~. and {~ mhdo' : certain suggestions,^'Which ivere- -- forwarded to . Mr: Archibald.';. Mr. Archii replied,"and eivoTything went smooth- ;. ly till August G, when tho committee i MTote stating that the 6ystem of judging j. • horees measurement ;was hmvorkable.' : , In the meantime, Mr. Archibald had ordered the shields , frfiin London. Tho | shields -wbro eventuaHy competed, for-at lAVanganui, the competition being ful. In Jannary'rlast tho Haiwkij's Bay | . breeders accepted tho shield, an'd'tho/con- !. ■ .ditions, and Canterbuiy were also delight--ed' with tho conditions. Mr. ~Tacob coneluded that naturally .enough ifr. Arclii-. . bald and ceftain.'Hawke's.Bay pe<ip]e';felt : .that they had. not been"'treated ■ fairly. Mr., Jacob then moved that the secretary i ivrito- to Mr. Archibald explaining' that it ; was oiring -to a mismderetanding as to ■ . tho; views of the Hawker's:-Bay.exhibitors ; »n the Subject that, tho 'offer of tho draught horse shields was not accepted, {.•'. ; «nd regretting'- that his proposals did not i . I'tceivo more careful consideration. ~ ; . Mr.; Lancaster - considered •'they;:, had .. in", r'over.' the'..; niatter, and.-'lia i thought amends, should, bo " inado*' to "tho : ITawke's Bay breeders. I Mr: E. Short said the -way in which !the conditions of measurement, .wero; jwssed was ridiculohs., !■ ! i '■ : '' *'~t ! : Mr.'jH. Booth said that from tho very ■ start-tho Horse Schedulo Committee wero. not favourable to. the conditions, and let- . ters waro exchanged/frequently.',advising j . Hawlie's Bay of tho objection;'' ' ; i Mr.";E. Sliort said tho matter was rushj 'ed on too scon nea,r tho show when the ; ' committee had not timo-to. consider, tho. ' j ,tiiing ; properly. ■ ' | • Mr.'. Conway said "the point was that a complimcnt'in offering the shield was ; paid tho association. The lesnlt was that :. Mr. Archibald had been told on three oci casions that tho shield would be accepted, ! and on'(tho fourth it was rejected, ;. , without vVttflrd of explanation; Tho'leost* !• the association could, do was to mako i amends,in a gentlemanly way. i i . Jlr. Balsillio eaid it would.be.'t'lie most' favourable way of getting out of the difiil culty.to agi'ee. ... : ,' Mr. Jacob's motiOTi 'wjra'il'h^n-cßCTicd..'! ; , - Mr. Jacob tten,«d.wd,,T',V.Chati.thc. sec- < the ; committee froni remarks made ,by ,Mr, as reported, and, rcgrets'-thfynvere-niade." •' Short thoughfc.'il(is"''wag "a ,wrong. ' ottiludo to adopt:as.'the'soonir ill,';feeliiig- . was stop[>ed 4h«..better;-" • ;.< ■ The chairman,.,hppcd tho'elemeiit 'of ■ ill-feeling, would:;not; come'fnlo tho";dis- ; ' cussion. V ; / '' ...: v'j'i 'VI i ! Sir. Johnston said that h'e'liii.<l',.ob'jected ; to tho ton?'of .fr.ro or-'Mr. •'Archibald's, previous letters, '.'and; oft the ;st.Veiigtli''of : ! thoso-,]ctters:"lip had'said that .bald shoiild be "pulled -iip.V no desire to enter intoany .correspondent . whatever with ;Mr. Archibald. HerfeMet- ( • . teil that shauld.'have said ■ ho. did, as no .ono wlio-hada-ead the letters ; from Mr; Afcliibald-;'cbuld say otherwise than ihey were iinpartinent. "No doubt a ' . mistake .may liavo been ihado over •' the j f Bhicld. . ~ Mr. Short supported Mr.' Johnslin," and- - criticised Mr. Archibald's : acHon 'towards . the Ifawke's Bay breeders,infringing the' ■ . shield to P«ilnif<rston. • I ; .Mr: Diuik' .ibin'rtrkeil that'it .'was' timo. . to'-desist'from washing : dirty linen. Before tho motion was,put Mr—Bitch-',, anau moved, and' Mr. 'I'ringle''seconddd,' : that the matter, bo' held : : over till next meeting. , ' Mr. Jjunl: said ,it -wni "a pity Mr', -.ftugli Gillies, chairhiaij.'of-.tho'Horso" 'Commit- i tee, was. not present. Pei'sonallyJ 'ho. ivas; ■ Inclined to back up -Jtsr.' Johnst.oii;.',: ; The cliai-pmari-was opposed; to::feferriji» ; the matter .to next-meeSng.' I'hey! had ' . to tear in micd -'-lliat if Mr." Archibald had written. letters."which -jyertf not',-jn' 1 Rood taste it was'-.auiwiso for tho'comifiit-- " $co to take up o'-Biim.lnt'-.atti.tiide; 'MIK ' did not think the. matter rcllecteil on Mr.- • ; ifchnstoll." ... '■ • , . •' Jlr. Johnston disagreed,'.and said'it'wnß' : a direct slap in tho faco for hiiu'-by -tho' committee. ' ~, Tho amondmenl; that it be dofort'cd till- • r.?xt meeting .was\carrie<l .by -13 lb 8./' 1..' '