PARLIAMENT

Dominion, Volume 4, Issue 987, 30 November 1910, Page 4

PARLIAMENT

amendments:AcßEEtfTOj ■ j: ;• Whcn : the Legislative.i.Council met at ;'.2..30 ; ;"p:in.. yesterday, '.the AttorneyK'.Ginc.ral .(the- Hon.: Dr.' Findliiy) .presented the report of; the. managers who §-had ? conferred with the manager's from )»ihd'Lower. House : on' the' Council's f : amendments to the ■: Dentists 1 Amend; -The repdrt-.-was agreed' toi I^;lA'.message; was,received, from, .the };■;'House of Representatives:- notifying its |.'j,accei)tanca-'of-,ihe aiiieudments proposed, ji'by: til's : Governor in : the -Bating Aincndp; mehti Bill.' . 'The-. amendments were K-;'Bgroe3 -.'to;;'*■:'' : . ■'.;.': ,;'".,■' v: |- ; ; r Governor's amendment ■'■ in the s#BlaughteHn : g*.and ; lnsp£<;tio'n Bill was agreed'to.'./.; v ., ; .''.;j,-:. fe;(LAND'SETTLEMENT FINANCE & ; fi'^r:oS^- ; ': B!L . L; :■:,.-.- ;- ; .. ; ;-.- L'l.'.'.Oiijreceipt; of: a from the g; House," notifying' its; disagreement , with tSce'rtain "of the- Council's.'' amendments StoJ-tlie Land. Settlement Finance Bill, kjthe'. Council resolved;- on the motion of t ; i'.tlio:;Attorfl6y-Geueralj-ito insist on its i:|amendments;.-and the Hons. :T.-. Thomp-psdn.-.J.; B.'-Galkn, W: C.VF. Cariicross, g;and: the-mover/ were appointed'to ; f orj?niulate''■."reasons.-"; ■'." ■■'■• '■■■•'■ > i "-y'.'V'-i.^ : -':;;.'-\ --~.-; " - ■'■■■'•. ~.■':■.;.'■. ■:- ■ tefe-H-:f'i'.RiSt'"READiiib^ , - -■' •" '■';'■ |:Sc.The-/Tiiermali'Sprin : gs ' District ; Bill/ Iv-liidustrial Conciliation .and (Arbitration iSAmehdme'nt- Bill, Factories Act Amend- - lament; Bill;V : Tram\roys Bill, ' and Stamp pPut'ies.;Biir*were ';received from the l;^House.arid , read a first, time. '-.■;. !-#i^';- ; :';--. ■'•■"■-. :■;. ..■'.-. ■- ■ .'-.:;■■■ &W -TH'C^HINE^OJMMITTEEi ';.\\ p^';^^pßDEE ; rr6&.to-day, i •' VO- It:'was?resolved,^on; Me-■ motion of jf-th'e^Hon.;Drl : : Findlay,,tp consider the •.jSeledtCommittfio's report'on-Mr;VHine's against ■.tlie.,Hpii.:;Mf.\; >Mac-gdonaM'to-day.:: ; s ; -V: . , ■' ■''.' '.. ■

pSS HYD RCf-E t ECTff bph. $C HE M ES.: f. . SiJi-i'i-i*'-;-, 1 ' 'i! ■(■■'■■'-'! ■, :-■--■ '"• **■■'■■■':'■ ■'■ '■ ■ pREMARKS JENKINSQN. f>v ;: ?ihe , ■Att<3rney-Generdl' ; moved ; . the. ;ie;cond,,reading : of..the, Public. Works f^&niradment''Bill,nehich-relates,';.'' inter oihii :. to -the hydro-electrical proposals. ffi/The Hon.; J. E.' JENKINSON (Wellington), quoted.from 'the- report .of Mr., f/.Harbor.dj an eminbht/'cngineei' to the jj/Irahsvaal Government';, fo. the . effect j: ; ;th'at .the :_direct smelting', of iron ore in .furnace;; though'quite capfvable/of -giving cominercial.results inc'er-j-'tajn ;circumstances,: was not likqly to be fe'Profitable; to' the Transvaal Government fci'he'cost-would', be about ,£l4 per elec-pi-ical; hbrse-power_ per. .annum, . which •■yvpuld;. ;be too :■.■ high "-for commercial could be- smelted if cheaper" in- an ordinary: blast .'' furnace. |;iAs it appeared/froin. certain'clauses in R-the^-Bill; tjiat 'electrical, smelting was ;;eontempla^j'by:;-the* : :Ggvern.ment; '-.:he. should > be' as'"-'a warning; . --.;■";, .-. '. qubtaj'tipns,.'from';technical literature',' submit-t;.-ted ;;that. as"ai'pimp;.had been' invented k Jiat'ic6uld i / geDerate; , el.e , ctricity and give hoyseipowerfper -hour for' less than f;;- the pott' "pf, onejpound "of coal,' it must tjbsi;:evident;;;that;the ' Government ■'■ was fi treading : on! tender ground in proposing p t?! ; sp«nd,;. perhaps, i£2OO,OQO on espen-r,sive;Jioad-works.. ,"!Thet machine', he al-S-ludeavto would cost, .fully installed, not oP';^hat; alono ti would .cost: m .one .of ;tfid .Government's i;,seheme?. ■ He', suggested;that JthevGpv-.' |.\ernm'e,nt shdiilds'et.Tip-van.experf)' boardpM>? advise- it .in; the ■ matter, "consisting' &°f:- sucl ! men'ras Pjofesspr Scott, Mr. iplarchbahks, Mr.- Symington, and Mr i-vChamberJain. v Theirj>dvTcd:,,- , should i -be' jf. sought- .'.on-'■the'vinnancial,. engineering , , pand. commercial.'aspects of :> 'the ?'pro-(Mposals.'-y'Unless.- -something , of'. tlie sort [.'was done, the would have reason p,to ;regrot,-that.;the/;.Goyernmentj '■ in ; a fc.BUch a-large khenie without proper con-- ■- :--,;,;:■■,■■',',■.:.■■.'-"■■■■'■ ■■■:,- & ,;:Tho; Hon; ; .R; A; j;OTJGHNAN;.(WeIjSIington);; siipported . ; -. s:;-. ; The.;'Eecond:,reading: was carried and" p-fte'Bui •■'was, ; ': soon: .afterwards..'put its remaining; stages- without' h'ißinendtiient.: ,■-■:',.;,' ■:■-. ■ : ■ .

|KS CITV , MILK-SIIPPLV- BILL; . p?:■■.■/:'?%■'■:' !-,.'.''• '•■ ; Q ; ;}.;■*<■■■:-i-r ■."'■..-: t;;^;' V--0 TheTHon. J:"E: JENKINSON"-(Wel-f-iungton), mvthe absence-pf. the Hon. C f «• - through -indisposition, moved {..the. second, reading...of "the -Wellinßton ;: City llilk-Supply-Bill V. a..•.;.■. . ■■ • (H6]i l'-.'2.r- Findlay) : said} it. must be conceded r> that the milk; supply,'of Wellington :was Hi.?,' w ," 3fc of ' a P'y of>tne. four cities'. The i-VBiU ;had: 6riginaHy;-,beeu;v,a good 'one: !.- but ; its purpose was -completely nullified Rby ■the;,ne\y- clause at the end, • which' L providea;that ; notlimg in the 'Bill should ij'attect;. any .person or company carrying 'von.ia ,rnillt-b'usiness..at,the 'titne of the b, passing -of -rtheV Bill, ■ provided: that tho f'PremiEes.are/paSsedi.by" the Public |sHealth5 Health iPepartment.-r-.This would create ;;,&.;.monopoly..j-Those , ..nbjrin'■the biisiAttess .would clean up their premises and p;sendrfor,;.ani'officer..of.. the -Health Dei|. partment\ and. get:,them'.- passed:- -.-but j t sthey:might-bo>as bad asain tlie "next 'vlwii a ? d nobod y else could start in ptno Business: without fulfilling all the «ie JJM. .- A , member r^wn- 6 '?^Jt l^- Committee o f the i';v W cllmgton City Council had informed- |;; him that they: would ;rather see the Bill !?,Pf oppeu -than have • it passed 'with that ['. ; Blause..ih it.:. .-■"■■': :.'- ;

K:":'The,. Hon. (Auckland) p* c °m»eiided that: the Local Bills Com--jnitteo pf .the Counsil had'once struck. , ? ; ; oiit the,.clause;' He hoped the Council ywould:again delete'.it.' ' Dr. COLLINS. (Wellington) ;.,commended some of : the provisions of i,-,tne. hill,, especially those giving ' the power to secure proper- (.; conditions'at the. places where the coys K.were.milked. Clause 22 (already refer,;;;red.to);. should be struck'but, as it ifdt5 o,npWy dcstroy ' the fe^>f?. n; - C .. , ;F. •' CARNCROSS K.(aaranaki) said ho.thought the 'milk was being, very much over--Tho farmers of- tho .Wellington pdistricfe; would: fee'lv that they were to •;pe;crushed puft , The price of milk would !; be' that people would Sfhpt.bp able to have so niucli of,it. The ;.; dangers': of' milk-were: rery much' exacr; geratid;- V ; • ■'■■. ■:■ ■ . fa 22 -V* : s " 1 ? S0( )" (;n % deleted' i. by the-,Council in Committee. It. V On;-t!fe motion ofHhb lion. Mr. Jen-μ-kinson- Clause 17 was amended so as [■•to. 'enable the. council's qfficers to inKispect premises, appliances, etc., outside ;.:;as.well.'as withinythoiqity. p: ;, ' Tho Bill'.was reported, read a third 'v. time; "and-passed; . : ■ ,

&i ii -' THE DOCK BILL. W^::-:^' : r'vr ; - ' '': ' ■' OF, SUB-CONTRACTORS.' | : *^e'^iTOENEy r GENERAL,,in mov-L-'-uigV'"ili*' committal of tho .Wellington K-Harbbur, Board-Empowpring Bill, referrFved 'agaiii; to .the';question- of the rights I; , '-of..sub-cpntraciprs-'in.connection \vith K the dock construction work. !'■■. Hβ '^fcatl ' a legal "opinion supplied by iVMr.' Skefrett, K. 0., to 'Messrs. J Pitcaithly and Co., who had csntracted to. supply to ,tho . dock.. contractors i (Messrs. M'LWn and : Sons) all, tlw

; gravel-.and sand Tequirod in the cons' 3tructiQE...,of.tho. dock;...Mr/ SkoT.rett'.s. •■opinion was to the effect that, if- such .

'a' Bill-'as : "he" , af '-thatr , 'titfie i-"understood to be contemplated iverb. to becomo law Messrs., Piteaithly, aridr.Cp. would lose .all;', legal remedy. , against / Mos'srs. M'Leau and Sons. or. anybody else. \Tho'contract being .'rescinded / by'■ statute, thero would be no-cause,'of actiou,;exffept under-such statute. Counsel'also ■riieritioiied tliafc He.; that ■MessTs. Pitcaichly f ;and Coi-;liad gone to considerable-;cij'ppnso' r to,.'-erect. plant .which ,w6uld:':6iiable':inem to supply; the gravel and saiid''cbntr'acted for. yDr. Firidlny went on ; to say.!.tbat -he wbfild assume t-liat 'tlie>ppinion of Mr. Skcrratt was correct, and in order .to inakb it quite certain that'>all existjng rights were conserved, ho;;would Jiiove', in Committee, to add 2 of Clause 4, so'' thati tlie whole sub-sec-.tioh woujd read as.-follows :-rr . '

• ■ '.Notliing in ,:this'v section .shall .■affect; any riglit; claini', .ordomand, existing on -tlie- coSiniencement of ' tlie Act and vestedJJin an); /contractor d'r.siib-con'traqtiir con'.struqtioii or supply* of; am- mater- ■ ials for any suelvjfoeks/'and.sucli right, claim, bridemarid,' shall, notwithstanding ' tlio passing of this Act,: remain :iiv the>samo' force and ■ efFect as if this' Actvhad not been ■ passed.". .'.-■... ..' •_ ■■ . This amendment'was soon afterwards made in CommitteOj-the words added, being those printed in quotation marks. The Bill passed through Committee with: no other amendment and" Was put through, its. final stages. . ,'. ■ , LOCAL BILLS. The ■ Kaitieke "County Bill was put through. Committee and; final stages. '"After some consideration, ' progress was reported on. the Greymouth ..'Harbour Board Loans Consolidation Amendment" Bill,' the Attorney-General, Who. had.charge of , the measure, stating.that the Hon.; Mr. Guinness had informed him. that - certain . further drafting amendments were required.' '■■ The. Council, at 4130 p.m., adjourned until' 8 p.m. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS BILL. The -third reading of the Municipal Corporations Amendment Bill,was-post-,pbn«d until to-day in order that it might bo and; a clause embodied to provide for the- appointment by .municipalities of special'constables, as suggested on-Monday. by the : Hon. J. T..Paul. The Attorney : Geno"ral said ho"-Shad.. learned-. that : harbour boards already had this power.:

f * iFACTORIES AMENDMENT* CHINESE,COMPETITION DIS- . . CUSSED. In moving ihe 'second reading of the Factories Amendment-Bill, \ The ATTOKNEY-GENERAL'said the main purpose of the Bill was to provide that Chiiieso; conrpetitipn, in;laundries should no't lie any'.longer permitted 'to bear oppressively ■ on white labour in the same calling. . .'.• " The Hon. W. C. F. CARNCROSS (Taranaki) said' the .Biil"was another attempt to get at .the Cbinamau.' To his_ mind it was a, cowardly sort of legislation, and he had no patience-with it. In fact, ho did not thjnk this legis- , ■lation-, should be brought -down-,at all. The Europeans : had'-the rwhole- thing in their own hands-by not patronising the Chinese. :It was miserable, unreasonable legislation,' arid he did not think wo. should kow-tow to legislation of the-,kirid. ' -.' '•■■ : ; ■-'.'■.■V^

T-lfe' .J. T. PAUL;:(ota;go) said the Chinese competition'in the "laundry and, other business,, had. never given white , labour fair'play,'' : T!i'e antipathy to the-'Chinaman was th'e"'Mnstinct of i|tb>j\vhito people; tpjprotect^h^white 'raws,' Mo \velcomed the" Bill;>sitftluding itfti rostwnive legislation,: Vp's'U|kr . as rlaundrlee are concerned. ;in Wellington had' almost,,fem'o'nopoly !of- tie • fruit establishments:':;,- Iti 1 was difficult to find'a; European'' :: ffuit'shop if you wanted-'-it.:. - .: . 'i~M"..fcJi,.' The Hon,. C;H. MIliLS : ' (Wellington) thpught-fthfc :priuciplefof was fair -and- just • w '■■■■ ,■ TheJiHon:: J.:'S. (Otago) pointed ,6iit. that the Chinanicn'lived so cheaply- that if bring in legislation.of' tho kind they-would"oust the white nlan. To be,lbgioaii.the Hon. Mr.- Carncro"s's would advocate' the. ad- ■ ■mission;of lascar cVows;to tiS'do New.'Zealand cbast. * ~ Ho, woiifd support the-Bill. : . - - <&■%:#>■'■: i ;;■

. The Hon. W. C. F. CARN^R'OSS said he did not-object to tht're'fckr'ictipn to prevent Chinese employing: nigh for any number-.of hours, but-ho i thought a Chinaman who worked; :■ fotf; -himself should not he restricted.' : ."'X •The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-'referred to combinations made by .Chinese to -defeat the. law, as Mr. Carncross would have it. At the same time he appreciated the courage of .the. Hon. member in making the speech lie did mako, but ho could--not-'agreo" With:., hini. The question was .whether we..'should protect our own. race .even at. tho'expense of-imposing, some, hardshipson tho'Chihese. There must, he said, bo a hardship, on the' Chinese'- if -wo were going to protect .our ■ own■ people. ' The Bill aimed'at. saving to women■ the work they are now doing--for -their ; bread, and tho. .-naked ,trutli-.,of,'the position could not be, ignored. .. -: ■ Tho second reading was agreed to. The Bill was put;;thrpugh : ,;Cpmmittee and reported without amendment. 1 Later it was read a third time and passed. ,

THERMAL SPRINCS. The Thermal Springs Districts Bill was read a second "time. The BilJ was •put through-Committee,-withoutiamend-meiit, and was subsequently read a third time.and passed. • ■ : ' CONCILIATION AND ARBITRATION. _The~ Industrial-Conciliation" and Arbitration Amendment Bill was put through all stages and passed' withput discussion..: • ■ .-•. .....} ; AMENDMENTS AGREED TO. L : A* message '"was'received -from/ tho Houso of Representatives agreeing to the amendments made by ;the" Council in'the Educations-Amendment Bill,-Pub- . lie Holidays Bill,; "Wellington City Milk Supply Bill, and the Wellington Harbour Board Empowering Bill. SECRET COMMISSION'S. , The House of Representatives forwarded amendments made by his Excellency tho Governor Secret Commissions Bill. These amendments were, said Dr.' Findlay, made to preservo as valid certain trade practices which were perfectly fair in their operations. ■■ Tho amendments were agreed to. ■~ ~ ', . ■. ■' : . :■. •■" ■ STAMP DUTIES AMENDMENT; Tho ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved ..the second reading of tho Stamp Duties Amendment Bill, which' was, agreed 1 to without discussion. . ■ ' ' The Council rose at 9.40 p.m.