FARMERS AND MINISTER.

Dominion, Volume 2, Issue 280, 7 August 1909, Page 8

FARMERS AND MINISTER.

WOM& 1 w'-A|FIN AL -WORD.f jy -J;!^}; ; : ": j m^^*;---;:.& ?S&;, ; which fl:;-i'\eiri' ; :Thufsday, : ■the;;:Miriistor : vfbr yAgricul turo •"yesterday / if^l ©us; decisions ;arfiyed' ! at,?'.- ; The.,delegatipn and 'fh;£\/ officiaJs;.? attompanying- a them; cousistcd;V,of' i££s Messrs- f, "D.r -I);'i.-MacfarlaneV r ■■■ Canterbury g J ■>/. jXpresident),';.: EdtvifeHall;-; (Auckland; : (secre-; :'.'-.-f-'tary)','' Boag; (Ellesmere); .Ai'Lean Kg:s(Ha\vke's:BajOijijQqL-Chaffey: (Amuri); ;Sch-) ;'Eiitlio'rfo : rd,'(Avicklaiid); I'tSvEultmi^andtCliarte vW;S {Eilesmer^ l ;-,;^Aloxab^«r'V:{LiripolnV;Agricultural ~ College)';■; Steven soil a (Canterbury); V!^ : oi : \ S.-Pope'(St^r^aryV'fop E.'< -- ■:;''■ Clifton' ; ' (d irecfor; of-' Experiment' SParms);' '. T: M?; iiiW.-- •Kiirk'..(bi6lojsist)^'. ; and ';C;i:J; ; :Eeakes V(ch'ief.: •p/^yeteruiariari)^;.".^ I^7'^'S rft^HCaso^fqiv;the''Taririprs/;' : ''M' j'^v^r'i'Mf.'S'Macfarlariej.' said ?thatrafter : the'"con-. ■•s'.;v.for.encba\lr.:;^.'.C.Buchanan'.interviewed the' i;S .thoVheed : ;r'or ; : :ffj;y;settei -country': i\s- . S^iJjtricts',''and.Dr.i'&indin y;at bnco (gave: instruc-.; '/{': ;;iJtions' fori a : Billet be ;.draif fcecl ! > tp- givo<Vo£fect i;S;. sliest of J jthe' -/cohfernnce; 1 ... Coucerh-; ; ;K':o :ib:tKe: .;:JiAimpbssibility;:;bj;£^ -tHe';VbrOT:.ihfected'distncts; : ;thpsb; -if;tvKclisitncts .^"slibultl }} lie ) '■> abandqnM jl to ; ' 'IftrSwe'eds^bn^ith^pi^ '&yj6f;\veed'i6edsvtp^lea^er : ,distrietsV. ; i :tlie^^ y : ll:that":re^uctio3s ; qf'shipping-and.other.bharges : 'v. '■'..' wereycrie'dessary/,'-J f only'-bcV ;-V;-l'l>rbught":about;;by^ K;l v th'ej ■ '-'■'. -.Minis't'erVwbuld;^ :V^:J;aboufcijpthef;ipoiiris : :ofllo3s'er;;interM^ : S ; italsb',; submitted VbyfMr^^ ::M;;V;W jMr//Edwin-Hails(Aucklan^ >y; v forramendedVle^shitibn;: : j^ : : to;priable;A::-a^ ;p:o : ;:prwe«dslofs?jajrdv"sales ;:for 'other ';■. purposes; ?^^4^iy^ ;; :':.j ,■;';)

l-iß^i The-,Minister;;!replying;' l said:.that a.; good. ; Vdf th6!.pointb;mbiitibnbd;.hitd-:bebn.he-! {;iff,;:fore..'.tK9, : ; ; piihhc .'-for: wme; time,':and W .i :the-! eridshdesifbdl^;.';He!:; ; was i ;yery : !glad 'Jib' ;lcarn''Aliat:'tho'4«lcplioiibC',diffi ~:':! I ; bvprc'q'm'p : I:;! vivas'"anxi'pus.'.fn'jeyeryi.way, .to..rnako'''.co,untry;' ■:'/.''..^-iife';'nlor o .endi;rablb; ; ;rNoxipiis : '?f\ ; «ehtbdT^iicjof;!tiie'(clifficuli. proilems; ; of':thc : : IM-'M day:>.Jf.;!and; was ;,to-bb ;giyen : ? up.!tp:ribsibus ''! j!:;.:!weeds/ :''e'vcry'.carb;must,j,b6.taken'tb ; ' provbnt' ; ■;:' Vdistrib.uttbh;!ofJthßso!;.vyciods :to : : <ither'; ! paHs: Jfr;!!;vHb!'wrjnlcl ■ areas;.befprc.;depidingl i.i r!ahd ; thpso : !;S: j meaP tradb,; rnbtlipds';pf' t Sn!iitlifield;, CP: ;onb. 'of Jthe' i jinpii; ;f rapkly !;acl mitfcd;!that! /•jv'ri.they i.cpiild. hbt;4M!l, ; \Ncw : h'[-. 3jSifeper!;;cf i a had $jf ;K;;,-'rbako'it up;sbliiejiAw.'A;:.''A-jsystem ::::-'-!;:of;.:Se!ling::tno;iiie^^^ thp !huJt<;hor'sv',c;('f ..AThbrb! !was; a. charge; -W: ; ; :,.-;,2d:'ipef;- stone : ;Tor;puttvng.!it. ; ;.-. : ;; :>rha!rket; su'ggestipii .;thatr2d;; per; ':: : i i ;st9no!;wasallpwp'(] )i t<)-the :btitclVef i ;td'i»y''t.h'o; ; .:;;;;c»st ; I'. ...enabled ; ;!---V : > did under Ltho''old;!:system, !forj:ii : month,'of, :!'W'-;two: v for - t a: settlements v;Tlmt s '; worked ;- ; :^;:well!fbr.': ; a ; timp/'nntil::tlibV'systeni: ; bf;;:iustif-, :; ";wa.s; 'altercd,,tb , "'!allpw * claiiris.tbi.feiriia'dc ;©:;; brpught ; : claiming, on/ bf ! ; 'damagb:'":nnd!; deal ;-j-'oi; ' J:;^;whiclK-!fbally:i'a)so '.spoilt,' tlio!mcthod';pf : deal-f ■!•'•!■ been; ah-' /:.;''.' was : % .'. jqubhtly.; a;i ; iissessinpnt.';;; fnadc/wCTJie, -'■''•y.;. position- at r ::;;:';;';, Then'hehad . a .aito- offered ;tb;liim;pf. nearly; S'-v.'ah'.'acTe i :.pf,:land'; withm"so. .yards;; of; ',!-'::fieJd;- : tram l with'.thojd6pks.';Hi3' ,;};..plan.at .that-timoiswas',to 'biiild-'a rbalfy ; .iiew ; . ;*''!;'-:m'arkbtV:;Tho!haok!;nart;p!f;:thc''site below.-the level of;tEe;ffpn,t-,'arid'.his."idca w;a's that;and.havte.ii.'for cold storage. ;vS:T^yv.cpuld. I .run;:t'ho'.moat;;right.;frbm, Jthe ,!r ! ■■ ;:J-He.:hebd!! -hbwi-,; ;.K!eyer},!gpyfiirth'er!.iutb!i tlib, Echehio; ';h'ecausb ,ifc ! ::'■ V! : did!!not : '; : como -'.oflEk i? i lHy';ivas.::Sorryj, it /did .-'iiotj : ," --:!;;:'becaksojt'iWpuldjhayb.given duritrade,!an.c'n : ;{::. : ;! tirely thp: ;Hdin'6^niar- ! v-.',.;!/Whatc.was to,,hb',dono"'in;'.tho: future he. did. '' :;;not quitaknow.'Hejthdughtnnbinploympntwas' 1 ■ £;; largblv'at'thp ibotixim/of jthb --bad idembridiJ'Hb! ;-';!!thoUght;-we,.!had; ''!.;l/ l -c6mmq.reb. i ivhbnV:iigjv laws' altogether.'rhust!'bo' ! adoptp.3;;tp 'secu ';; : ;', eigri jcPuntries,!; ivliich', wouldfjnable;'tliem/.''bf- : ' /s.:cdursc;;;tp!. mbiicy'!ayaiiaj).le ,to! buy";'tlib ; , : -, r ;!. L; 6fcrik'e;.any!/thpugh't,f,u :j;,,,! : thbre,:'was: a;gtpa-itbr, supply -of;. NbwiZealand' ; ';;" rn«at ;;'.;, ". money,iValtie;-paiu;;for! it 'was. lbss.'tjianjflib' v!.-' ,total .'/r'^niuch/.lp.w^r,;.^ ;-.;' t ."t.h©;meat.rwai ;hot'.all,'gbing'.,into;!;cdnsvimp-' ■;'"^tion:c.>s;'-." v;!/ i^llusioh^had^ebri^rnade-!;to/the!;American ';/;;Mea"t';;Trust. :,Tip'.'extent-of,'-.their' i iriilubnce i . : ;.:; ; ; was- -not! asoertaihed 'yet!;:. :Ho/did'. riot 'think'' !/: y they!diad'' yet; ; dpijb'!;much';'harra, ; :-but .what /v. :th'ey'%puld -!do;in'.!tho : .futufb 'when':thby'had /'.': complbtbd ' ■ "operatidha, and ...;!; whenJtliby .had/got" a .much;'.largeT , ''cbhtrPl!of'! -.the .Argentine;tradb,!than tliey','had.-'nbw,'"it■ .'.'-was!' : inir^sible':fc'r/.anyoue,;t'o:!;say.V'/ ~-,'-.fore-he;.t hought'that :any!pf the arrangements ■■•V:'-.'thoy^.m^e;fpr.;handlin'g''frbzbn.mcat:'atIH6''nie.1 H6''nie. >/ ;oiightitd far /as ;pdssible; ;in-.!co-; !.;,;;:operation ..with ;:Au4*tralia'';so,!that;;thoy,rniglit. :!;/;.haVe ;in!'the!'markcti /.'Nb/dbubt ithoi t/question .of : : ,beef/:was:: another';,'that' ;//.came'into proniinenco;:,He 'thought: t-hat:!thb, : ' ?',:■ beef H^ .'.! j! directs so/ ebnyenibntly /was haying /an.. influ-. ."■.-."encb}on,-the yaluo's.of oiir!.mutton. -■''■■^^. be:;MSfiible''fbri'Naw!r'Zpaland ;tp; send,.; Homo: ;.: - ohilled.^beef; also/..-,;;lt.; ; ebuld:"nbw/ibb/kept; ./'perfeptly.,,sound/for :.50:br!' 60 dayjburider,'the' !'!/■ new/system./ •!)'. '}}} '■ ■■'{./'. /;/; : ":';// ■'../ ■':;!!-;;! ;• •:.';"'. However,'.he.,would;gb,into the;whole: raaf-; ' ' : '-ter.bf„tho. meat : tfade//ivith. a-yiew;/tp"eyolv-'; .!;! :in<s some ' imprpi\ r eiSent. But, bs he said, th© : :'.. chief'oiEcblty'rebtbd with/ the/unefnplpynient / . at.'.'Hbriie/V'.AyiJih :,an,-'.imprpybtnent-.iri'.trado'. !;!'!;.genbrally.,'thrbu^ /.'!6lvduld'bb>n;!imprbyementi;because/lib //Ireland;!was:in'-^a'-i mpro satisfactory .state/ //'; there/was .'greater 1 in, the, wool'mar-.' :!;" ketj'farid!,all these' '.-.'•• = tbrs;':;in ! ;bmploymeiit/iri air;Othcr;,!briinclies 'of, ;■!;.-, industry;'inV(£ffererit'!:Couhtries—these/mat' /'.;'-tersVniight—a'nd/Yhb,\ hoped /would— : bfihg /, in's.tho'conditidns/ahu ! ;i//pric'ps'!'bf!:meat/iii : ;the';old &Uritry; ; ';^ : tb!e ' // 'quantity of : meat;' exported to/ Britain ;:was' '///less-per-head .of .her. population..than:it.was., ;'!!',';!tbn/years/ ago, ,an.:improVement:in : .trade;gen-!' .'■'.'orally. ; . : shbuld,leddito'a great, improvpmpnt in!-, !:i rnbat.pricesi//-:-.!//, .•',•/-./.. ,-■';./;; : ,'-:! 1/'"/.'-... i /.; ; Concerriing.:;the cow-testing: .scheme, '/he.; ;■-.';: was'-glad .to-Jearm that- what was/proposed /by; 'his!- I^Department ' hail met, with'the ap-/, :/.proval'-.bf''the:':ooriference.!:lt..was intended ,-:,: t3 gbodjniilklng'herds";'6f...Hojsteins, :•',/, and. Jerseys- on-:the lexperiment!'farms,;.with ,// a' view'--.'to; helping ! to -improve," eventually,. '•! - the''/herds .''pfV'the'/jdairyTfarnie'rs.;/In'.iregard •'.;•'• ■ to-.the f individualising! of.; Native' lands;, much' :.:.,.-rabre sjwas 1 - beiiigWdone.- than/was '.generally. /"! BUppbsed,/;but,Sit !^was; a, vpry ; : cpmplex ; ;.task/ ' /: Mr:; Ngata' -■ was" 'endeavouring/'to ■-brjng •! the .; Maoris; to 'recognise;' their.' obligation .vin/thjs // question, v'ahd;.tpp/;niebtings at' Te-Kuiti; and /-/Taiun'a'runuij ; .repo^d;''th'a't' i ,.nioraing;'Bnpwed''' /'/that: he .was.'.having"'some.-success/ :'lt'!Was //urgently, necessary; that'.the country should ; ',■■'-'-;l-3 wttled.■'. .;The/; 'markets'';of,{Britain w'efo' '!'/ abl-e.-!,to takd more' .than- all-bur lands;, could :■"■•■ prddut'e,'. and/that', was (Very,\miiDh:mbrb/than . "■''':'. the 'ptesent our,-• products^.' He; / wonld : '■ endeavour; to ;hays /the/law.,; altered

affecting the.sale.of lands of A. and P.. As-, .socjations as desired.: Long leases for A. arid P. Societies he also regarded as being '■a'- matter, on the right lines. ' Ho. would do 'all that, he could,in their interests, both in/his own Department, and by; conferring ,witb his. colleagues; in other Departments affected. !:' ::■ "■- ' ■■ -.■---,..'-

■'. :Mr. Macfarlano; said, that .while' they ro'coguised. it/ would be ,hopeless to ask for an experiment farm in-the south -.in''the pre-. sent ;fundsj 'they dosircd that the I system, of-'-feel'tl 'experiments should be ex■teuded,'and highly competent, meii 'employed ;td suporvise ;them., : : ./..'. ■■- ■■ Minister ■ replied :that the.Department desired to .extend ; this : system, -believing' it! .fo-.bp.a better.'system' than.•tlmt'.of having larger experiment' stations:•■'., Nevertheless he [hoped that ip -time the' south would have an f experiment- farm' of' -its -own' for work on cereals, and otner crops that the'south was mostly concerned in. He'approved also -of a., suggestion, .that, weather ; .reports. should be issued' for;'the' country.-' districts .as' well as for-.the-, towns.' '.'. /-.',... * •,, ,\, ...'■..:','• , /.--, :; ; on, behalf of;' the conference, thanked the Minister-, for .his sympa-! thetic reception-;.of .their proposals. ....:'-