THE COUNCIL.

Dominion, Volume 2, Issue 532, 12 June 1909, Page 3

THE COUNCIL.

THE; ADDRESS-IN-REPLY.

v";;;:?wy;^:^;-A'"?HORT^pEBATE.:-;,.;^' :v :: ; - ; : : V; ! v--Hl!ie3.Him; , .; •::. ingahortlyafteythe assembling of the Council; . .;-,: at.;ip:3o:a;m:; V moved-.the Address-iii-Reply. 1 >■■- He,said he RelievedHhevDeferwje Conference :..; :i .in..,'Londbn : .wohld.:bb ; .one; of the..:most imr. :'..'.portant. Imperial gatherings ■ yet. held, ;be- ■ j,'cause..it'.•'■would ■to 'the.self-governing ;:.- -dominipnsTtakjug their.due part in themamv" tenance of British.naval powerCiHe thought , ?<,V-New; Zealand'sTegulaT: naval .'subsidy••■.to the , Navy should be increased;-. The waVr/p.warnUy ;,,;approved r; "by.'',, all ,-,-,..-classes,' lncludmg the workers; and-all should ';,. be rprond 'of-the man. who had the genius ..,: -■: and .the ■courage -to make, that - offer. • ■ New feel like a- son pouring his : t ; '"■''°™*': : ,? aTnin g3'' ; into:'hisVniother's -lap-! ■.:■: the' ..;.„; .•PnmV;Mimster:should' , ,Wallbwed,':;arid en-. 1 :fTv-. couragedj: to go id'the.'-'conference' ! a's early .-.., as possible. '.■.• . ':■ ■'■•/• ■"•',. ■■::-*>: ■■'■■■/■.■ -'■:; :%:;The"; -Hon; :;• 0 * ; H.,;MILLS r ; (W«lliiigton) ;;•;;_ seconded the motion, recalled: the: warm love .■;,■: for . : :the,/Old Country, 'which- , was'inculcated .■;:. . by the early pioneers , :of New Zealand,' and ;.:, ■, thought :it; had; since been .somewhat 'chilled. had been, revived,-'and -Y he-rejoiced in-.the new. wave .of-Imperialism :■.. ■; •Hβ ■ agreed that the Prime:. Minister .should ' '-J/EO'Home to;the Defence! Conference, but it :' would nothave : been fair'to expect him to go -, -\-.r ;withoTitParliament being adjourned." Mile .'•;: :: ; the. Prime Minister -was at Home, he would -VA .oonbtless be • able;.to . mhke ; .'some : advantag- ..■•'; eous' financial,'.arrangements.' ; : '■;..'■',...'.,[■ '.;-;'■ •>:;;--A;-Future;' Step Defence^''- : vi'-VvV'-■■'.'• ,■•'. >;;■/.■;-The/'Hoa; 1 H; F;' ; :■-.-.: eiter expressing his• agreement ; with ..the:in-' :• ■- ■. tentionto facilitate the Prime Minister's early' , : departure for .London; : proceeded: to .take ad- ;*: vantage of.the liberty,of debate,-by, .-■.•■ } n & on aerial navigation. He believed that ,; : v--«.-'^aß;.:a;'sirießtipii''that'.iwaa" v .riipidly'- , cominc ■'-'■■■ ">*o practical' politics, .and he thought. Nei? •v. Zealand .should .be prepared to give other ■••-■ -countries a lead -in the adoption of : aonul ■ ■••:. navigation ; ;.to';purposes-.-of'r.;defen'ce.;-J---.vAi). ■■: k^ 30 said :■• Athe ;Preadnought,:'offor,::;coming ) as it "did. .;, just; at; : the ..right .time/: was worth far more -,- : , -. tnan: its-.money -value. ■' It-must have'- been ■ 'yMf oel v«l.; I l'y;;:.the- : 3tat«smetv -of. the:. Mother -: :? Country, as -for the-.proof it gave ■ ■-■ 9 f ' a : o lpyal_and.'united 'people. ,v• J M *,v Sinclair::expre33ed the viewy- that New r<, should' harbours in order- ... -lor the reception of British' warships, and V; -ohould; have stocks of coal thereat; 1 ..•; ,?- : More';capltarwinted,:V---C-y;^^ : '- : - '' : ' H :. said the-present time was one-of very grave : •'■S!" s :. !V^:, * , «f«W : -;»i»?-' the^importance . of maintaining ..the.-supremacy, of ,tho Navy , ...; -the country would not; suffer from" tlio ai ..;■. journment. of . - The- - protests .. ;,against,this, course-had come,■ strangely. .•-. enough,, from: those,who had for. years fcen ,<, dec.lanng;,ihat^ WO ,.had-.too . much SgS tion. : .■Hβ hoped the Prime Minister,. while ;■;..;: in liondon, .would .be able to" make arrange-' .h-. m«nts>,that would result',in: a .greater'.in- ■ fl Hm,of .capital,to .this ;country. , : (ApplauEe ) ■ ■ '^t'^fv^'S- . avDreadnqught was the V,, nght,. thing. , V at ■, ; ; the - .right ■ .time, ;; ',-<and '.-in: .the.: ; nght - way, Jn' regard -to ■■".■.; compulsory.;, military, .-training, --Mr.' Aus- ' J{ •it were.lone in thV i'; - w »y. . ho ,,fould i approve of a cdmpuK j.:.; eory.scheme that would not-, withdraw the ...-...men.fromitheir usual:■ occupations.' In re- - ;'prd;.to ;the'cost, much of. the pre-sent use- ;--. ;v- less/expenditure could 'be savedr; Our vol-■..';unteer-system'.;was,too showy;- -'..- - '.■-;. i- ; Unemployment ;and;the Retrenohed." ; ■>:'; /;: J^.;did ; -not- : think: ; the. unemployed '■ diffir>: cutty /..was so .acuto '.that- it should interfere with the adjournment of: Parliaments The - Government's scheme of providing land for .J ■■.•.retrenched Civil Servants ~wa« a partial 'at- ;. ; ™.nipt : -to_ copo/wjth unemplriyment,' but ho not,hope-.much,from it; This plan of :■■•• Bonding; inexporienced men 'away to' tho ■"" '■-AT- »■■?• ;blunt .tomahawk and •a six-by-eight.tent had,been tried before, and witfi- :'■ ? ll 'v rauc ?-' succfißS...;.A few-survived the •.v.; battle rand mado 'very good iscttlers, but not ,„: many. One, of.,the: causes of .unemployment :•■■■■ wa l ;tne restrictions: which did not a :fa.r daj'sOwork to ; ;be. given ■ for a fair : da> s- pay. ; He believed; tho true solution ■ of tne unemployed-question was.to : .be' found in., the .opening up of land .for settlement. . Ihe, administration;.of : tho lands-for-settle- : ment system criticiecd by Mr. Anstey , ::f s . :'.»?*.'. ?™rfing!,-sunl.cient;"' facilities for •"■.' Dnnging_ labour ana land together , ' . , ■^■m^<, jWf;■. w;,: (Auck-- ■: land) also spoke; i.. ,, .- ■■■ ■ ■ ■ -• . ~;Tho: M INISTER: F OB;JUSTICE (Ho ni Drl , Findlay; complimented the,mover, and 'seconder on their.speeches, and welcomed tliem -: : ---ta tho Council, of: which he'was sure they ... ~ .would .-.be valuable. members.' '. TJie Govern- ,; ment was gratified, by. the enthusiastic and unanimous approval which' tlhe Council -bad ..■given to the proposak of the Government in

regard to the session and the Defenoe Conference. He could not admit without further proof the. striotiires of the Hon. Mr. ■ Anstey as to land administration, but tlo Government .was doing its utmost to promote closer settlement, which was the cardinal principle of its policy. , : ;. '.■.'■ 'The Address-in-Reply was agreed to, and tho Council at 12.20 p.m. adjourned until 2.30 ?- m - ' '•■"' ' ■' ■ '-■ ■ .'.■■.': .': • In tlio afternoon, the Speaker and several members..' presented." the ". Address '..to his Excellency and received his. acknowledgments, and the Council : sat only a few minutos longer.'.- ■ The Hon. J. B. JENKINSON. (Welling, ton), speaking on the motion for adjournment; suggested the appointment of a committee to'.go into matters aSectingthe comfort of the Councillors in their new Chamber. .The MINISTER FOR JUSTICE (Hon. Dr. Findlay) said,he would be glad to meet members of tho Council who had any suggestions to itiako-regarding alterations that ■ would make the building" more convenient. •'• Seats similar to those in use in "another place"' wore to be provided far the Council. •',■'■ _The Council at. 2.55 p.m. adjourned . until 10.30 this morning. ; ■'..,■ .f