General Assembly.

Clutha Leader, Volume II, Issue 62, 16 September 1875, Page 3

General Assembly.

_ Tue^dav 7th Sept. In the Legislative ,G6ui^il^ the Registration of Mining Companies Bill, the.Qainara r Wa.te ( c V^9^ 8i11, . t0 give, power' to ffi>rrdw Ji £6T)#oo 'to supply the town thoj "Waitaki Hirer, a^aSTthe Plans of Towns "'Regulation^fiifl were real? , a second time, ;■" - rnr.ih^pE^o^e'.Q/^pres^nt'atiyeß.' -V In reply; to> JVtj Bradshaw, Mr Rich? ardson said the Government intended to mtrodtice'aißill to amend the Adulteration of Food Act as soon as otherbusiness permitted. -...-. " Mr jßuokland raised a question as rto whether. f^the. Superintendents ,CQu|d legally holcf seats as Representatives in that House.' „_.._ . Mr Macandrew J moved that the motion be made* -general, and apply to evera-dne 'taking public money. f^ore*g r 6isg : inio. Committee .on the Abolition Bin/ Major Atkinson proceeded to reply to the arguments used in the debate, and thanked the House for-aJ^pin^Wpa,a rej>ly-then -instead of on^eJEagnt!oi|fel}9rtfi« - Before-going further, he would inform the House that the land funds of Otago and Canterbury would be all exhausted in tw;o, years>*-fNiB Jj from K Mv Macandrew). Major Atkinson woula show 'if; "was so presently. Irrespective of abolition or no abolition, the land funds of the various provinces itr&e'' liable far railways and public works within their respective provincial boundaries. Members on^the- other, side -.seemed to forget this, aM tnink c tHe l 'case Sva' s" affected by abolition. The Government were determined, as far as they were concerned, that no landjshoulcl be sold for mere purposes of revenue. They intended, as far as possible, to make the land available ,forr the settlement of those, wK<|m2hey were ' |ntrb?ti£finkj an"4 those bred on the soil, whointended to settle upon the land. The honorable gentleman accepted the figures of Mr Montgfttne^y . regarding" r provincial finance, and proceeded to snow that, with these figures, he was quite justified in the hopes held out. He estirnflfed that, J n ■.T877-ft t — the- following would be a 1 fair estimate i *ofnthe ilantl I fund'^of thft Taripus :-r Auckland, L6O,OOOV' Tiganaki, L 23,00 0; Wellington, LlOO^Ml^Hawke's Bay, L17,000j X^spniV-MfaWPi Ma^borough, L 6000; Canterbury, LI 45,000; and«<>,tagpj >. I*2OQ,OQO. v*■ l*e did.' ;B6t think ' those . r - estimates- exaggerated. These ainqunfe wotild -be realised With proper management:.' In. these tions lie fcsd.=takeh» 3 -per cent., profitover and above working expenses... Without pledging . the Government in the matter In any way, he wished to see some . scheme by which the land fund could be relieved from the^various charges now upon it. The Government were fully alive to' the necessity of the_ matter,- andwould endeavor to. provide (for i public ; works being carried on without those charges. The' honorable 'gentleman : then lpro«eeded to shoy^ the'details. by which, he, arrived 'at the conclusion that the revenue.in. Otagp in, 1877t8 (?) would, be ; L 344,474 r and.thai there would theii be a deficit of over Lrl 3*ooo on her total expenditure. V' Mr : Macandrew.': ' That is .Colonial finance. ' • ";';'.,'/..-- _ "../-.''-- v " Major Atkinson said his calculations^ werft iDased \ solely upon' provincial esti-' mates, .and W hadYno: (objection to be corrected -i£-wrong. -As-for-Ofcago-and-Canterbury, the land funds of- these provinces Iwere^almrist entirely pledged for interest and Binking/ fund nQn railways, and that, too, by- law, and irrespeetiv& of 11 a"bolitibn c T ; K£re coulcl, therefore, be no great iridiicementfop-^' Colonial Treasurer;% : look forward' to in 'the,' way qf laying • hanxls : ii'poii th£ land fotids of " Otago and Canterbury, when, if his figures were corrept,r anpj, hebelieved/thejLwere, there would only be a mere trifle left after engagements were met. Takipg'-MTr~Montgoniery's figured re^ai-tihj'' fte revenue of " tlii \ colony in.lß77_v7.B_wQuld_ie to. admit the colony, was. in a state^ of insolvency j and he could not accept -such a contingency and make provision for it. Hi¥ hon, friend also brought ip to these jcajculations the increased departmental erpeiitiiture, but he held that the House would neve.Erponsent to an increjase, in estimates with a falling revenue. The Treasurer then "detuned 7 tfie' various savings'fae proposed to- "-effect in 'pfovidin g suitable' government for the col&tfy- as 'compared with the present cost of Provincial machinery,, and -en* deavored to show that he would have a surptas*6trttߧ,ooo after proyiding^fbr the whoMoV'tnfe services^of klae- colony, instead of a deficit o£-L240,000, as was made. to.. appear. by^Mr. Montgomery: In estimating what he would receive from the Land Fund he had taken- ifc as a whole.: ' The Treasurer, gave :whafc be, considered, would jbie .tJie.Seficien^ies.ot' he i "Siferen); provinces in 1877' and 78! - He-° Wainiamecf that ' his : figures answered all the chargeslthat the Government had designs upon the land fundof.any.proyincej aad also proved that all the pitomises 4 made could be easiLy. f ulfilled •_ thereiore, feom ciaipo^t7>fivie:w.aionejaboli^)n i sih.qul^ he carried out as speedily as possible." He maintained: ihfe sßiliff h& hrn given notice to introduce in no way altered the pripcipl* I of«. the,, AJboMpn> ißili. The Government utterly repudiated all those charges which "had been mads against them that they were only ani-

land fund. Their sole desire was to sefliure^ ijbr f tnjT !¥T*%*iP 1 $ pf $ Cojlonmle finan«e.*~ i lii- «<mGlusion^ (hi: \ desired to say the Government would no* abandon one single principle of the BUI. ;i iMr Montgomery explained that what liei said was that it was the duty of the colony to see that proper government was provi'deOorWparte of ths {solony}, but he never -contemplated thas there^ should be a common purse, because he hold that the land fund should be held sacred. The honorable gentleman pro- r iceeded to dispute the figures adduced by the Treasurer regarding the land fund, and said that he should have tajcen his average for .-a period- of-ten-yejars, p6l?|Six, as He had aone\,whenhei gayS nis'estimrite of- the revenue of--1877-78. He did not make it so slow because he thought tl^e revenue would decrease to that amount, but because he thought that our taxation should be reduced to at lesjstrLS 7()-pei\head^aiul r - ifithere was^anyidqfidiency, tri\make it. gpod by altering the incidence of taxation, and making landed proprietors' 'contribute fairly for the large., benefits they got from immigration and Public Works. The honorable gentleman j>i;oceefle,d to that ; the estimates qf "Ihje Treasurer were inaccurate in many Items. A weak point with the Treasurer was that he was not prepared* toredeem the pledge of the late Treasurer, and redeem the outstanding Treasury Bills .of,, tihe-^reyenue. _ _ ! I£r X^B-qrke sayllthat, before taking .hia seata^ i Cnairmanof Committee, be~ wished to say a few words upon the Bill, as in Committee he would be debarred from discussion. The title of the Bill was sufficient to show him no good was to be found within it. He deprecated the proposal of the inerfibefc' for Timaru that l^gislative'-|/ower should be monopolised in one central body. The stodk argument in- favour of .tbisi measure was that the country desired it. But that could not be said of; Auckland nor did he believe it could be said with truth of any other part of the Colony, Auckland comprised a population of from seventy to eighty thousand inhabitants, and they had unmistakeably declared that the provincial- Govern inent. should not be f lightly departed. from. The Treasurer, in making his statement, said that Auckland was a public ■scandal. What scan"dald,id^he Prq^nee - of Auckland exhibit? Who could say -it was due to the extra vagence of the Auckland Provincial Council ? The scandal rested with the General Assembly, who had carried on a systematic robbery with respect to Auckland. He considered the most repugnant feature of the Bill was the system of nominees or petty Superintendents. He believed disastrous effects would follow the nominations of officers to positions ot J)ower. The\ honourable the Premier ought to accept the challenge held out, and go down with his honourable friend to the hustings and submit himself to the voice of the people: Speaking- of the efforts of the Government to compass their object, he could not but characterise the wh'dlV'system as orie r bf bribes .from the moment the resolution was wantonly thrown -down upon the floor of the House last year down to the present Bill. .Haforesawj if-tjie Bill. were.passed there would 'follow political torpor, political stagnation, and political degradation. the stamp^ ing out of all those grand political as;perations which- ought 'ito influence t>her< - -public of the country. jMr Afaoandi^w-'^aicf , the^ Treasurer., told theni thafnpxt year O6a J^o : would" not be able to njeet her liabilities by tb/irteen thousand jfoiirißs. As Otsgo' : "contributed one third of the whole ! -Colonial revenne/iiQcthQugbti .it.-./wouljt; be a poor look out for the Colony as a ' 'whole. Having listened carefully to all that fell frbm-flie Treasurer; 7 he 'H^a's" struck with the utter rottenness of : Colonial finances d SQmeof the cleverest, men in the House, and acknowledged adepts at figures, had been engaged night and day for several weeks, in trying to unra"ve"T~tEe~' Treasurer's figures, but they all come to the conclusion that they were utterly fallacious, . r and caMlate'(b^lLelttdert^lieLhop.exl/POt intentionally. It appeared to be a sort of financial hocus-pocus. It was reserved for the Treasurer-to- discover the ipjiilosopher's stone, and make something out of nothing ; but when the yamb'uff^WasTaway.-frantth.eir eyes, tfeey ; Would find out that they had been egregiousbr. deceived, and would rr sucU denly discover that not a single sixpence '■-■ *>f the land fund in any part of the i!plon^3saiuH be leffc^Bflfiwithstanding.; r "tike assertions of the Colonial Treasurer that afternoon. The only way to save it 1 was toiboffow more 'money, or^t.o: apply the pruning knife to the gii igantic Central Government. He would i ejren d"6';aw% with '- .^hfi > Californiani l Service itself, and abolish the Native t -and^l^efence, I)epartaients v He was "s^)tnetim^s j infcliffetrto J think* i the Biltwas passed the better, because • they would more speedily get into that [■. political "dHaos 0 6ut r of' ? whTcli o niight [ ejnerge a better order of things ; bu the I would not do evil that good might jcpme. He challenged the Government h "t6 go to/j:he epuntry, r and concluded by Z _ayowrng nrs%teiAion to b^4e- th^Bill i alt every stage. i j MjzJ^j&Ji^m&Yed an amendment to , tue effect that the Government should i bie afforded an opportunity of maturing, I gtjiese measures lor abolition, and thatP in. the meantime no further progress ,

*honld^W^ma<se with -^ Bill. He commented upon the fact (^a^n<TM^mt|f'lif the JC^veTmgeiC Mai^^tbidlal^wit^the finlriciaLfaoC posals of the Bill, and no Government supporter either ; and when the Chairman of the Finance Committee denounced tEe Tfealsurer^ngures as deceptive, and showed how he arrived at that conclusion, he was only answered by a phrale. Hg v v(hs \tdlß. t^at'}his^gures were-? grotesque^ and-H Men -that/ they were flagrantly incorrect, but they were not answered in any way. The finrancial statement of last year did not &gr«e with the statement of this, and the very figures the Treasurer gave that day did not agree with each other. The .firsfr pprtipn of the -statement did, pot ljppse wpth the second*,,? According to hjs-statemeht that day Otago was 40---show in two years a deficit of thirteen thousand pounds v According to other figures the saving over the whole Colony by abolition was only thirty thousand. >I,£ the daiicjt .of -O.tagp^alone. anfounfe^ to so muchj ho w'{ could tkey be expected to believe that lhe Treasurer could fulfil the promises he so liberally made. He,could,no.t .. dispute the power of the House to abolish the Provinces, but there was a difference between pow r er an^righjk. .and he denied the right and'ex|Jediency J to' do 1 so, ' noniore 1 than it would be for a Ministry to retain their 'seats after a vote of want of confidence in them was passed. Although, there was no legal form to put them off the , Government benches, it would be_ v^ijihbut for !the^V6 M^id their! seats'aftef such a vote.' "The tionF" ourable member referred to the solemn i pledge made last year that abolition | would not apply to the' whole Colony, j as a great reason for applying to the ' country. The amount of that argu- j ment\ that this^ was Can experienced] ; Parliament, arid'therefdre best fitted to ! deal with the question, was' a fallacy, j fH'ei considered that it was, an unpriced- | ented act to change the Constitution of . a country- withoutshowing Parliament the substitute to replace it. I My T. L. Shepherd said great stress had been laid upon the expression of | opinion at public meetings, but the machinerj' by which this expression ' wasobtained was-^not generally known. ThelSu perin tenden.t had whaf; he palled an electoral staff; the wires were touched, and these agents were told that if the)- "could get? a resolution passed against abolition to call a iaeeting. If the finances of the colony were in a rotten state, as was stated by the member for Port Chalmers, none was more answerable for it than himself. He was always prepared to do anything so. long as' -he could purchase peace for the Otago Land fund. The General Government' had been accused of bold--ing but a bribe ; but the : vei*y essende of Provincialism was bribery. For years and veers the Provincial Council constantly sold large blocks of land with the object of getting money to bribe the country districts with. j Mr Mervyn said that.99 out of. every 100 in the country districts of Otago" were opposed to a continuance of Provincialism. He- opposed } the amend-^ meat. ,t;j Mr Key n oMs- ;sni d th at were -he- notthoroughly satisfied or his acts* carrying put the views of -his-.constituents he would, not vote and act as he.did, ..The. trust remitted 'to him ~ by 'mVdbnsti-' : tuents should. be.-weli scared -foxi viit-He ! denied in toto. , he had pledged himself ot« his' constituents fo oppose^ 'fßtfnbbli^' tion of^thp ,^therjlV|^d 4 d i le Is-, -land. What he bad said was this Vlf atjthe time the abolition resolutionadbn the North Tsl^nc)tiw : e.,i{e9brQu.ghtfdov/g, •"'and those of the Middle Island were included, he w6uld ; have i 'saio r **No." But ; jnow that.^the wish for abolition was uriiversaf, he" was not going to leave Otagq.and .Canterbury to^epecT^orat" % the rest of the Colony,' as wotilbV^W; thje case^. •provided 'the/ (^qvernrnent)_re.tainedthQin; alone. ._ .IJnder presenLcircijnjisjtances.,- . JieWonsidejre'd .to delay' the ' the passing of %c Bill w r qulH be'inad'-* visable. It would ' rake a : %'troh'g : Go- 1 ' vernment to- watch Superintendents and Provincial > Governments, , 'if not to be trusted: six months, longejv ; Sir-George Grey referred to the assertion of the Native -Minister that his (Grey's) speech had & tendency fo bringf about the severance of the Colo^y^roTn" the* mother country. He-had since per* used his speech, and found that it did : jndt iii any j way warrant so dahfagitigtl an imputation. , Or; .the Bill itself, he would say that, increasing it T beyond a certain stage, t^ey^we^ christening a bitter struggle between' tlie minority : and the majority ; bf that Bkmse. I R©Hy by day, and hour by..hour, their claim td force f the Bill through diminished,. : iand it became more and more unpar-_ donable. anjoffence. What was to com-' p^l the^minprityrtcv refFaja. from^pgn^y i It wasT^lwjay^/inthe" power, of an Opposition to— delay granting „ moneys!; for/.a L He felt impressed withva;, jeijef, [tftk almost amounted; to, a^eligious fervour, 1 that .th B e:JGrovernmeht "were pursuing a« wickedcourseTtind-once-more-he-would-irrip|qrer Jhej JSaye^nmenth tp^tajke tiie, wjise «nd proper course, and oy sending the Bill to the country 'and availing themselves Sfrthe/assistgncd of ! ihe Opposition, itp s b?ing^he t bußJ)^gs L of jPa^ liament to a close, andjdo something to remedy the wretched, position of the fi]iSn : ceFdYitVeoMyP .. gentleman criticised- the speech of the v hbnorMftme%3or^^ n|ed that illustrations had any applica-

any' country ever knp^9 £ r, ft He aisiiKea si(|e^g^jg ) f|.na.nfiiaj 1 &tftteigen|,iiaftay§s ? i cic us^andtherMdmstxyinadupEactic alidad nitted their first financiftl'Htatemetft^ ; were in^l^V r 4S^iM L Mmm )C Sa; Farnell had unmistaKeaply de^mojl-.. strated their utter fallaciousness." if ' the Go veTnme^C J "Carried--tbe;^ill-aii dinitiated a s/siieni'dr Government by telegraph in a countrjrwhere there was no; hereditary mofia&hlt^'t^kMcare that th| Ministry did their-duty, the result would-be .mpstutthappy.fo^ th^ou#trysr ana there would arise an aspect of things r lamen,tab)e -tot beheld, anc^woigft -^h^n : j^eyaijed in , many /pf, the pld^ur^; pel m , countries vbe^e tfeft, classes would vi\mm*ißm&wks " b^i wl|ich the :latterj3 L WQii|ld be crushed l>y poverty r and -oppression. The people who- came-to-JNtiw-Zealand-<3aßae-4i«f ewith tfie^fibpes ariH aspiratibtis fehSt'they 3 wculd avoid alPthW^i^W'^luropean coi lntries .^ : hut iWas^ dopg. soniething,.wMcli f tended jto.creMei all; those evils — they were puttirig-theitT heel upp^ w the f p^nle.^ Sp far as navgas , concerned, and those 0 ww ho'! o' loteii ' wliitf r him,-they-would"Uß^ every- endeavour to prevei^thpe/^yil^gfe off i^itjatinpf such • a Consititution 'being /taken out^of. Ihe, hands of the next Parliament. He would resist the passing of the Bill by all the rules of the Hojuse. jMr Wood said the Commissioner of -'Customs said the Bill should not be delayed b^qanse it would take a strjang Gpve^nn^u^tdp^aj^KM^J dents, and that Provincial Governments* could not be trusted. How easy would j it not .be, House to pass .a Bill to pre veri -Uoitncils from 1 squandering, the land fund ! He hoped the Government would accept the amendmenj^o'f tjheQm^ber for/CaveTsham.r - a : T 'Mr Hei'd, v referring' to the statement' of; the Treasurer that in a year's time Otago would have to show a deficit of thirteen'tMttpiisWcfc |)P liind^^sjai'd.it'1 iind^^sjai'd.it' na^gh^ under Colonial administration j but if left to Provincial administration, there would be a different story to tell. All the TreasurermromSFed To save by labd-T lition was thirty thousand a year. Hedojubted the truth of that, and believed that the result would show they had obtained a far mop© inefficient system than Provincialism, and at a greatly increased cost. He hoped the Government '"wwlct- famendment> They; &igh ! ii\g^ iot&" \"(3>nMji|ip^. thatl evening, and might defer, all other busi-' ness, but they could never pass their Bill that sessipn,. . r ,HAfpr#ne wasprepared td^reinain there for sii niohths in im order to endeavor to make the Bill a suitable measure. ir. ; Mr: ■?itzherbert asked, whether -the ' GpvernmenV were 'masters ~6f (\i& bouri- >: try, or the country ; ;masters of the Government I .; Speaker after speaker! got; uji and. .criticised ithe^Gpyei;n.ment pro- 1 ' pos.als^ but -they "could' 'illicit no "defe'nde nor answer or any kind. 1 'They were put up riot' to sptfaK ,';.'' an^. this 1 Vas Te-sp-onsible'^iGo^ejrfli^eiit/L" He called' it creating a^compdnyfo'r tnemoho'poly of power tVi fi he ho^q^able .gentleffl^n criticised the pKeparedistatement,^the treasurer'^ regardin ! g'th«' land) TOmd of the Ptovin^s^d'Mcl^a^a" fUdged " ..Sjt^tement^'jmearlyVmißant 'io'imeet the Exigencies fiifuftw ',estae. •;'<"; jijt was alto.gether; i deceptive.^'^ f He^ Temirided the Government r tha^i ;^ I l#^^and^.:^^ifa^e^t[m jnga-; . sure, they wpuldrmosfeass)ire,dljt; call, one . m^to existence^ J •'HeTprayed the Governsejyes jpj}. 3YajUng v «tEemse\yes of their physical forcahyripassing) this 3ilh I Mr- SFcftit's 'amen'dm«ntr was .then : puty . c aiid :ne^aWe4°by;;P |o f&Ji : '■: ; y - ' / ' >• '' " \Tss:^ss'fylss# Qyinfa^^ee pn:^ Abolition ,141,. Wjtien rfi * \'. '.'■] .:,,.",..'. ,;. I iMr^Stout'^itaroedi&telyi^moved' that "prjogress be fepbrtßd;-^- It was agrbed : t.ol L 1 ' iThe jrjeasurerjmosed th^is the- biflrbV "gone with on Thursday," at^'-S'^' "The' ' Opposition strongly" objected, and wknted M; at^7 n 3oy su|ppqrters kept crying out half-past 2'f and^pr^Mea^^^ains^^ivingiway 1 S6 ; frfequen%^qithe Qpß??i# on^ J ,r-.LI fUtd jSir Donald M'Lean announced the ftn, J 9 a 'Jbilk : stqao^|v, i -aQ(i i jt^e.n it yiras. agreed the bill should be gone on -wit^'Sf'^M^n^Ku'kdayi'n^^ "- -^ I Wednesday,^h Sepj;^;.; ! A large number of Questions were as)cedja^i'a^aj^|Bre^.;,^i|h reference to the progress of woriTs in the, various, districts. j..^.; jMr Bradshaw moved—" TTh at; t iri'the oßinion—of-this— House f -medieal-prac--tftio^er^iM^activVipußlic/pfacQceyouglit not to hold the office-of-coroner." The Jn[inciple was, jinjgst. j Itrpften. happened these men were engaged with the when they ougtffTCcT be attendiiig "the living?' He xnSwTof seVeraLihsMnces wjhere fatal results -ensued- from medical .jniejSi^eip^ wgag^tvMdJSKij PPJOfters' inquests. It also gave them unfair? jaavan'fSge^oqveri Triedioatl Jiot -c^ropers.^ , , wW»%#fWff TO'M.'tnd A fe^T&# e«wKdJo 4 7i'IiE9}",S 50 ;l I Mr" Williams moved for a 4 sum of to placed>updn, thefiStbtfat&ffco pujsiin girder the graves of officers and men '' wjho felUn^wars^Mth^he natives. ' 3tJ The ttrftifflM^asf withdrawn, and the We^Government to deal tnolcgrra^ „" Mr Murray move^ opinion of this House, the bill to b^

based up\>n the following gfelfsrai principles: — That electoifclcdisttiiets having \ty&s European population, than 2000 ish oaLdounJega sjyjh distrjcj^mgrj^e anj . coitams .a European" populatioif or Ji?m&phb£m£vgei&(&id> other' electoral' ;qiistricts- The estimate;., of population -to be based on census_raturns." The honorfcbte I*WN$ cPo in * e A r s«t fjthere^ we re glaring inequalities that recjuiredi to be o ' remedied. 50 ' T&ere'< were ; sixteen; dis tricte;v which kajd fPJore -than Oi thej --average representation of the oolpnyj ijtmall constituencies should hot be" .-allowed - f t6 Tiavei the samfer representation $js constituencies which were very much jncirlr-'pSpulouSi '•— : •;';; •'■' '• , ' ■'■ \ : " : Q rt i jA. dilciissio'n 'ensued, 1 aiidultiniately ( sic tmotionllwfi)j;',withdr.a.wn ■at f re- i .thequjestoiitlse Qpyernment.., „ : - : "<><> |3ir George Grey moved for all cor--Fegpondence or memoranda between T. -Russell, as representing the Shortland Sa wmiU.iiGampany,, -rand . T.he jGpvern,me nt, relating to timber ; licenses held j})Y the company over Opango and other jiblccks at the Thames"."" He believed the ; (joVerhrhent' iriserted^ a clause mv l.the^aet' solely for- the .benefit of vthis; -Tconip'rinyw--- ■'{?•:■''. ;.■/■.<. 5 ■.-..•-; •/- .;.:.;■•: ■}- jA:greßd r jtp.- ir--': . > ; ; ; .._. ; r ,-... -., •_••.. ■,<.,,;;] . / {3fi.xeral, : bills. w/ere. aclvancejl a stage. „ (The I^arbor. Board Bill '.Jjas'' passed. "" "*' * v J' ' "' ' J ' *" ' "*" '" "" J jThe Oamaru wn- ' Hall j and Gas WJorks r Bi'lP-wai 'passed through Commijttee. ,"„■.;:•.;./„'.>,■ a ■:. i.'r-" , Mr Harrison mo fed the ~ second MSS!SS£I CcjpyrjghJjrißjU. v J&i;?%?* V&M protect newspaper - proprietors and otljter persons who incurred consider•abTe^ense^A^pßcurin^ telegfamj. "'■, |A:; ; ;dejb f ate : ; enjue^ vand whipfr -was adjdtirJße|ii ! fgra^weeK ;' T " : ; .; •; •, : \ '':: '\' - x ... "Bill was reM^thi^dtimijand passed, *: in the Le^isMive- Council, the following bills i were^ead a'-^hird time and passed w*tlipu£ : — Oam|tru Wkterworisr! 1&% Nelson' City L|an Bill, Campbelfeown Ath^eneeum ?ill, Plans of TownsJftegulation Bills. The iWlellington J^a^feor Reserves Sales Bill IWeint into. Cpmipittee, and; the furrier cojisiderationifiKed for that, day week., } ~: a 9th Sep|:[ jSir Georgg (^iej presented a petition fro|m Auc^la^d by 1250 perspns -ftgkinst thfe Smtnediate passing of ,t!be t^bolition'i.Bi]l.-; r - ; He said r there wiere signatures, ktill to Qphlfel . 5; MriJ; {L'.iS^epjier^'^rjiiiff^ii'iincleJ? the' notice •of 1 thai ipp.Qafeer • me':- fact , that cekaifa^inembershadTobtained leave ofi the ' %ans^rd ' Cbmmittee-^ttf-g'e^ speeches printed at the Government* printing office-as r suppleraen,ts-to-certain-paper.l' ! ri^ri^ticeWHtSa't^Wese^'suTv' pigments did not bear-4ho name of the rofficejjat ;which";cthey.iw:ere printed,^and^ -this was clearly iagainst ;j|ie Printing^ and Newspaper Acbr—^r^r*^ '[.[, |Mr- SWWard,' 5 as.^Oh^frman^ of th.e[ R^pprting* ['Deba^/^CojnmAtee^/.'ex-' plained the piJpftmst^npesVryiz/j'jJthai^the-^ meiibers; foi? Mtio.pe&S. .aadfßitllorih^d J thbirjsjieechy p»T^te;d" : a's%u'ppleraerits -at - the prpte-^iaid'-ine^^ iCP.uiii.not'.cpntiiiue;,^; print members' speeches/; thatrjw. ay; -if ri{j vr&s)Th%d&&, ipractice. „o^w, -« &. iMtevi discussion,^ th§ h n}^tter ;i wwars r reiFerre^; |qb report ; . ( by i . e t|ti j e.^| ) rinting' Committee^ <.;'»?;•[ <■ „ iMr tßoU^ston ,Sir Jr^lius .iYb^el's' jreturn °migM be looked .for. Bje asked this because he had seenc in- the—newflpapers' regarding . correspondH«rrth -the instruchons^-sentl ■to! him from here regarding the transaction of cetain business. „ JMajor Atkinson saicrthe Government had no private communication from Sir Julius Yogel ; but, as far as they knew, iftlwas'. IMIiSQnf LibH loj(le'a"vejji.ngi:aird; 4br New Zealand, if his health perrmjtted, sometime during the current "month. c £TsFinß l t .007y 'mih , Mr Brown (Tuapeka) asked the ■^Minister for Public Works what -'steps. -are r. being .taken. to_ paen .the. 'fi{sfc CiJ sec Ition1 tion U 6f W-'liawftfie y&fr .^okomairiro railway, and when it is liielv that a portion of the Tuapeka r rallway.will WSpi&^&tmflteX* w IMr Richardson said the delay in opening 1 of the first section of the line i.Clutha line was open, as it was to convey the . ne ce,sjax^^nmterial. ,, V J riiat li&e was now c'bmpletea anu dpesn, and tfcle work would be proceeded with as sojon as possible. ~~—«- ---to jAt the evening sitting', - Mr Sheehan resumed the debate on the AMit£pppßill, %%^ after ,sjMtcing) fob M^an*hou* without ,inti?oducinig^ any new matter of argument; was succeeded by IMr JsS®#ei& wJ^sjJplFfM^ lo w a itone a3 to almost inaudible, giving his reason for this that he intended itpj husband~kts--resources -and--4ndioated- rithat he was going J to^spe^k^ &r a conrsulerable lenerth of~tiniß7~ The honqratle'm'emW Mil ffi^WfhffiUßffl u t6 take a long and tedious jomnej^on^i( jihat; migh^^^^bj^lfsfc for i montfis 5 h3 intended, so long as his strength anc^ •i4telle^t~l?ill^d7-mrd:-ss-t)fteir-as-~tlre-fcfrms^^ihe &&& f Chairmaa, report progress.,soas oy every means in vis power to ojssferuatjtiiSep^ssage&og thg b^yhßguglji Committee. The honorable member informed by thWHSrm^«ia¥fig t memb3r might speak an/~

nuWber of .tim^sAffndv'aTßK'ldJigrias he =!*kea; <^&s^frease^^ loitg it/'w^nldaake^ deoiHg a'^esiibnl wlich embraced the -whole colony. If , .pnpeVtney%onld ; 6a|ise l nniv6rsal ifc tSl- { satisiaiJtio^ p ,^fc- f itzherbert.began^ajb > 8 4nd finisned at 11.20. •" :A M^lK?itgonTtßry x nex« J roSe and " said'members should not forget they owpre, there to do .thejr dijty as representatives ( 4>f jthe' ; wtibfe o c'6lbny7 : ' !£ S4WSS^ from" fabt (of tb6jjGovejpn'ment;havin"g jgivpa •notice of other .biljb^they-^should &%*&< brought them forward, and their " not Having-done-so-liad-strengthened-the-ha ids . pjrjjt^e- ;Opßosi^iqn r ioThe£whplej poicy v of tfie Qoyernmenjb \ should be be:pre the House: : " The honorable member suggested the insertion of a clajuse; inCtbe ibill -that! it-Tshduld^ridt > come into operation until after the .next me|elm^ppf ;\he ilejislatfire^" tfiatno new 1 cdii tracts 1 shb\(M ?: be°enTOred !J into '■ by i the i Brovihcia'L Government's- wi^fi- 1^ out the conpentjof ; the iGo ; vernnien^; } that no ordinances of the Provincial' Cojuncils should become:/ law j.withtJut* the assent of the Government j. llsop thtt all clauses^ up ,to n clause ,4 of S^er Alolition Bill should be postponed. \J* . a r Sir Donald M'Lean said;.the:Go_vernv { ..ment would be prepared to consiaer- ; "the|ir proposition,/ or any whiclr]the^ recognised as being made in a falr^'anm 'reasonable spirit. - ** \,w-~ s : uo Mr Gibbs snid no doubt the* bill, was not perfect, but urged that the .Committee should endeavor to improve jt, an£ if when it came "out of CommTt'tee it iwas not such as he couia r applr6ve, Ke^ would join the Opposition in r: Endeavoring to: prevent it beebmirig law r^7 i■' |Vlr Swanson recommended cianr ad-f: journment, to give the Government an j-pp jjortunity to ;-state. what -course^ r^ction?yai^nt > ' i D 1 e i; -|)racticablei-^^e-^ici' noj see why all the .{Concessions should be! from the Opposition who held stron"g3vie,Ws tbepsubjec];/ a^ditM^ views and wishes ought to be consultedv" ■- '■' ■ •• "--""^ '•:■' ':■"'•>'*:■•', Mr, Reader intended Jbor stay till 8 o'clock to-morrow morning, when he -would be rieH r ev4d -2.301 l then another relief ti11, 5>40,. and on till the Opposition gained tWr p_pint. Opposition would keep i-pn f th'cise taqfie's till the. : pres < entPa'riwni.tjnt l 'iiad dfe(|]fty efiluxionof time. Th^y (the Oppogjtjdiy wqre ; acting .jn ..accordance, .with "-^tjhe wishes of the people j" the Govern meUc were acting in opposition to the wish.es of 1 the people. The Opposition^ considered it their ; duty, howeverJpaipful, to | take this, course, and they were determined "'the till should 'not, ijpass during, tbe^ .present session.. .AU"tliey asked was tnat it "should be referijd to :ther country. , The honorable member pointed out tHat in four months a|new would be called together to Ldiscuss .'.thisoiquestion. \-;. The hpno#gljj£ member asked the .indulgence of the HiDusej ;as,j lf fpr : she nfirs^. : time,in rff hi^ he had risen .to speak wlieri, he had really nothing : 'tp say." ' lAll : tlmV said dii their side of the'Hb'use' .had been said. After intimatiri|' :; thai : 'he -would__co.ntin_ue_ _tp_s])e_a_k_ against < blamed the, Go.yern ment -for, obstructing the business of the ETo'use by fbrcing- -the bill. The Oppositiotv•were determined that no iurther; shojilti 'the bill go,^that_ no clause should'^ be prfss'Mi' The Opposition : ere' rr &- ; shlall bu t x detßtmined:}b'and/f as ■? Government ''Wouldvfind-;: •; • ;..; „- ; (Jl - ( Is.l-.vn t' jMr*StQut followed, in, support of regpOjrting,. progTess^^ The* honorable reaol ' cibpibu^" bx'tr'a'cfi from rwor'k^^oh ifedet'atio'ti ' 'of ' f! fche -'•■ 'Uni ted States^: a form -of%o.vernraentf;of i which -the -speaker higMyftpproyejd^jrAsfter an arhalf^during^ whioh-no lig-ht was thrown on the subject,,, h.e.r, re tired for a quarter of an hour.' Mr Stout observed that^bfe'liAoy^everal'^Bints yet tojtouch upon, and was left speaking at: 3 a.m.ythe-House-notrising'-till— Gt3oA i .-Friday, IQth Sept. llJpon the House—resuming at two o'clock. .r,ir;o.:-:r,J^jl--:^-)oO IMr Ward pvoceeded to speak. ;About 2.20. the Bergeant-at-Arms .^ook^fie'mfeaway ■'Committee table. ■ ■N|'7Siieeb i an- L ajb once fraised a pp.in^-^fi orjler, and a sharp discussion, 'followed/ which, at half past 2, was cut short by the entrance of Mr"*"Speßkef, who took the alridT opened' the .^hSJuseO wict^" prkyer. -■'■ j'M-r Bf arrdon aniltMi! ..SfcQut.Taised:.;a point, of orderothafc the [Speaker,! taking th \ chfewa^h^gujarj j3 , qr ,, & g3s}ffl ' Mr O Rorke ruled the proceedings qvit^T^/M-'tfie^fEiye'WaVm^nil m jttee. — Mr Brandon an^j^MCvj^i^zJie^bert contended that under the r cir^umsta^Jees there was no Qhairman of 'Gdmmi c 'i|a. [The Shaker ; Nh"a"t° ne°took the R prs^eF course7>a"nd-th:e'' 6nly^oheHhat cc u^pijssibipbpsta.keni.rr; , /Jj'hg^f^puse, if an -doubt could call upon.the^l^ng the -Speake.r to ,take the chair. [ffi^ollMon c f;dint£?d v oar^w the adtion of the Speaker interpoiecHn the [presenting of petitionss—li ¥:5i fty^W^ breach, of. privilesre thatj.proerress hud .not been reftorteel, as tne sitting was hras Bitrinj^sJ«onßtitujiphaliyJ I. crAiaidag iancJaeiWft^Q) disisufsi^ai^ngHgcJjgoPg^ 35ours8 of which Mr O y ßorke twice a^ain ruled that the proceedings had perfectly iefu!ar, Btt gnl that the blouse was properly in Committee j but

_MJf Reid and^rl.BMfi£JS^SgW i n _ ' -sistedsorefeviffw-fn^^ ceedings were invalid, .and .even if* they At once passed d ffie°Aßo%tion Bill Ihfough all its stagesritrwtrald not.be proceedings Had been vitiated. Th<jT/ 'bnfyLwapoSfcdfrthd difficulty^ wffs^fdr-*' the Speaker, to take the chair.. .yr . „ Sppaker < coiddrnotrewrs r ff •■flny r decisibfc' ! ; -given by the Chairman of Pommittee ;iM*>aifr r&uMWchiHr^ nXII ;r;S pheJquestidrfAwagifthi§n^tf#tli^t progress^ rejaqrj^ taken anfllo^t pj .32 against 29. Mr Stout daid m order to give the Governmetitnisap^| ei . B'n^8 'n^. 6a | c - t { i sn&5 n& tQ do|he would move that ..thfcviQhairmaii leave the chair. They wer* quite pw,|ared tokeefj the l rflajonty r fherl • W 4 >. h :i ;,-«q >i r?w acts ' ]Vlr Stafford, the 'dictatorial tone' of tn'e "youngesFmember of Jhe House, he, iwquld:) tejl &im that %??? .on- r^o^dof a ) minority Coercing a majority 'A major ty always ruled Ti # min)ori y might. waste? a #o*>4 deal-of $me "yec they must succumb in the <Qhd. The rules of Parliament afforded! hfindreds of means "by which a majority i'coild carry their point} <,^ fl ? >: ?oO fX 3 t Mr Heid wanted to know what !irew and tetfioletae'ticstwere ttos be m mojtion against the Opposition. :• -* Maj6r^!a.tkiiisotf l said'lt"/«eeihei : tfcat an t i lf?^.,Jaetics. | ,(!^. f^m Ihe Opposition, who considered "that one thM-of the House-shouldo^o <% ihey with the m ajority <;/ .Nqtwitti-^ standing all the threats of the Qppoli^ tibji thai the Bill would not>b<? advanced •a ; stage it had been advanced^ Jnd wojuld 7 cqfltinjfte to/^eiadvftgcjßi^aniJi^dmade no doubt passed after jspme. weeks; „ night would: Mas mucih dsktheiQp"|fi)Bi|ion cared, about. The;hon...niencjbjr -suggested 4hat e^r^" of Iv ffid v 'Bjnise who considered' the J 'proceeding3\ :Ho|^ r irEejprular r pr illepi;^ K ~. hope. Let the remainder ' dfuie'Honsei ) pass the -Brllj! and-jthose .who had doubts/^? co ild afterwards? test -its ..vali4ity;viai:.a<; r ) coprt .rf^,, ,.. ; „r.. ;., VCI rUw:iJ sln ' L^s phe opeakeu;obseryep,, 7 in;i reference to the point of order, that he thouernut desirable he should inform: 'tftte,) House that possibly to-morrow, or at any rate fit jsometftifuraitime,- .andvfrqin-.Otinie. to time, he should think it his duty to takß th^ chair* as Speaker,' and* take counsel with the House on certain matters wliicH his rulin^g^miijr^be^re^uiTOd^ s'\ V M.v Pitzherbert made a few 1 remafkia^ on! this intimation, «'ndanimadverYe(^oVC? supposed threats by certain members' o ; n^ ? thfe Governirent,side.* V! '' ;!l i^K-i'.l |" .. p\lr Bunny said that though tHere : wjjs a majority apU l s<? i; tneM'-in('&ei f flbus.e,, they assuredly had J a maioriw^ ■tifjn r: ¥iii ? nM%e' r -Mt: f bf %P «n. . vinerit ; on the coEPtrar^f tney j wslfcib&in bet ter. c.ojidi_tio.n_at_the_end joX.^_n^nJth^/ thpnowv, If n however» ibe GoyprnfTt* rrneric 'wiir'me*e^''dttr^pjttteti6il" v iltt i -a4 : :cbhcr]iatQ.ry c^it, _.ss&. MrP^m^^i \ made on hoth sides,.the Opposition ■-wduld assist fn f p^ln% a dff^ft toaM^ £4; ' :f ;e V 3fi thiatiesii^ riy Ss-wfeVlmeet A the "l&li quirenieots of&the country^iiwhicV^e^ present Bill, does not. >n jn,stead of,. . abolishing the Provinoesj-ii retains all '"~ the worst.feattfrfefefd^TthesfM'esent Pro-^.r^ viccial"tns*trtcrtn)nß: : — — - — - M^fduf^^M^lh'el.Opp'ddttibH r\ w 4%?i ) mfefflE?W^^ ti^'JMV n iS^ t j"si ; $£r Swanson, iegan talking aTStoK*'" 1 4.80, and TtSs tiftW $MQ? W$*M^ House r6seT 1:IS ? B ■'•^t^Mtf r<ii£zs&'tims&q-vyz jl%e^.ojise.iras^n7gd3^),r?i3oj{i^hen Mr ; Swans9n continued his reniarks "for abbut 10 minutes, when Mr Murray. to6k up the diiMsri^a^iniersperae.d:^ his speech with letters and- extracts 'o?* r fr6m newsp"apej*s i^^^|gT(|a^.estfead"~7" one letter regaraingJHauraKi bush.. • tw ic@ Qve^ $8 IQ^ffi&fiftiiff pa/ft osMs i. y\ Bunny said sorpethingr to Mr Murrav.xJ wi«to^iti!ii, r>r aM«M^o^sd A|kins«m' ; mdirgd fibatcpro.g?egs fHWfQWsftiSi tea. It was T afi-"e§d to. & &h " lhr >" '~ :s ■ T frlfe^atfve Wifiste'r ?Befi ; '4m it f was de sirabl'e r 'thaf th^pres&it'-sta&eri&ifthings sjiould be terminated, as^ertayi pro-. posals had been made-to- tn'e* Govern- ' ment by tHe r u©ppoßifcioTi f >reg;ai!ding;;«thQ r l qu!est\on at issue. He would mp^e^at} tl i ,>the House adjourn till Tuesday next,o^f; dy liepTitheTUo.v er ament „Wsuld' 'COXTStder' — te^nper. '■' fThe motion^wasagreSftW.^^ 5 «- l -"*ii-i

id Why is it impossible for a person who lisps to believe in MPcffeSreice of young ladies'? — Because inrsHys"e very miss is a nyih. o} r^'-M- ;'&•&?, co e^-^T TUTere irlafflOtaibdrgff Anti-slander- ; -r ,i\ ; in r"Sp^fe^r in PhilaaelphiaJ'whißlFir^ — pc rfetftr sucbessH 'llAw "^mpose^ Qr^flj^?| : i Why is it natural,, that a. vbun 0 * lady hiving sfe^CW i^^&'W^ i atouier j Bejtfause eyery youne lady i w:sWtlo%sTO6/'(^W^|nic^ d r:y » n t ti e' grape^a bellow half; tor'/theJipeaehVif* Ja mimye^lffroc^JiWFOrl^sqdi^lbie^ • Though men boast of holdme: ihe r f C 4«s. t|e>oman gen^r^i s ; fe 0} Hoo^^SfidfflWhilfi^gfi^oi s > ti tf fiMil the ;|on-~^ when> th> m|^-;4i . ra nof with alPhi^ ■ might^»niirt to^KiS^^--- ' » with^lffii^e^feinp|b«||gf^^