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Ifejmf— 1 * vbo do not oomply wltb ig tf>e Inst column of ouu v* u BiCUSO «» 11:0111 noticing STATISTICS. ftfi EUtTOB OV TUB PRESS. ££, l an> the occupier of a plot of Iftatftißißg less than five acres, of iind almost adjoining boundary. It is practically iepg p«ndbills, the only "stock" bejjg- to tbo prenlises being a lame fffeteen tbo practice for the local Ko to call each year with note- . |||il forms, in which he recorded Eras to about half a dozen quesEjliese particulars were for the llPon of the "Census and StatisWellington, and are defi "Agricultural and Pastoral Km*' in a letter of upwarcls of pnted pages of explanations and (Bam from the "Government iiian. ,, An accompanying achedijl four closely-filled columns, In size, is enclosed. The first p tliis form is a "caution" that Bion neglecting to fill in, sign, Bver this schedule is liable to a jjjj], ttiere arc just 100 questions. Sro preliminary ones, with subi|Vo. 3 enquires: "Are you a Spied, three-quarter-caste, or Jpe Maori? Answer, "Yes" or jsLfall details of grain and root Bids, in bushels and tons, and, fpie seed obtained from a list of Birietics of grasses, are demand" woxate details of fertilisers used, H*nt of area in orchard, viae-ifep-gardcns, and market gardens, p. by the farm machinery Hut jUffcae next in order. The fourth gf*sks for every conceivable deBer the bead, "Live Stack or HK—number of bulls, cows, draught, cart, and Bdosing letter Bays: "Hitherto Igitiatics have been collected ||-t&e local poliee constable, but H-,is being made this year, save the expenses and cost travelling involved"! Bjtho expenses of the constable pad the district on his bieycle. jplw interesting to know how PI paid to the "local constable" BPung expenses. It must have may large sum indeed if this ft costly method effects a saving. Hwiild poor-ihannlesa residents K holdings be required to go i«ll the details and givo a reply papder- a penalty. of the Bprr information when supplied Hptsly useless except to proBite * large Departmental '* BUSINUEBE.

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■. .i , ~ V.f;. BJINISTEB^J; ' , or tbb rsxss «, t t j& >he,' 'women * in ".the ( nu|m^r3r , i eo&trovery will' suggest: to in wtech'botb issued - ri with* '.• blank 's#s>, Jrianes jHpay.tfitb Mid' equally deadly M pother aide, fkei thp <*- frf#®??"? v9°y,' ' PlajfiOK -soldiers, just /Each of the : conis' ifyipß' to settle tno ' Scripture, be for- '■&%&&' far* WtWWiifegitmight I suggest ' li,vjs: ridicujinking People, ;sna so. quiteußeless, as an instrument for theml* - But; jjfc itfjalsp use: of -f t «se alniost any irngpabfe;! - can be proved '•#» <iuk one may; i at |&9 time, desire,, ? ajnd ,tjy it many of ■ tps/ffioft Vipiqust pagan practices can J» •" are" numan sacri- ' fice, polygamy, moh <jittiice t witcliand > revenge. It becaise of tjus foisreading of Scripttir©, 'fdlk' (always ipitbtbebeßt .'intentions, certain faith /in .the. world, it fs' true) teaching of the Bible pleasure -lost its hold; on 4 young peoplei' Let us see rfe Wei aa the record of &od's proTeyelation of Himself, which: culminated far thelife and Death 6f fssi^UtTiSs^ss willflna it r an all. spiritual questions. '4iet ps apply to tfup- question, " atfd - to .all' others, * the spirit offGKrjsi'3. life and!'the>principleß of Bis teaching. ; UA, I RTSat- once said.that' th© «*tsr. of ;%riptjrtre. were h'ltfl' all ' they' p»as9 o»P something, bptli' Wfttl afodbeautifpl. ■ Pinched rat* one hv dine, fhey wgrepf >ase,only Wj l 'fepryo«(9fr apd 'snares. tp catch men withal J —Yours, 'etcU "* n ' ■* W^ft?H. FFTTST * j Manßft March i,tPf 1 vl j ;'4 "1 ' V7j\ » •3)?*HS -ppnoissioa I jaWfuniMtfttOf'

f ' 1 *, , 1 j , * v , jnents in .a letter on the-above subject ~ by"One Who. Goes to Church .Someif times." He says that in the Old e Testament there .were no .women lead-' ° ers or teachers. Surely our friend has £ forgotten, or has npt read the i Scriph tures'with attention. In reference to „ "Miriam, the prophet Micah says (Ghap« i. -ter 6, , yerse 4, latter part), "And I t sent before thee Moses, v .Aaron, ..and J Miriam." Here she is a. Co-leader with & her two brothers. She was also a (Exodus, chapter 15, verse -' 20). Then wo have the account' of t Deborah, another, leader and prophetess 1 (Judges, chapter 4;,verse.4). She had " a husband, but she, not be, judged », Israel, and led their armies to victory. Again, Huldah was a prophetess in the f days of King Josiah, and' a copy of the 1 t law being. found, which ,revealed the L fact that the. wrath of God was pronounced against 'the particular sins of f which they were,guilty,,the King sent 1 a 1 servant to enqui*e . of the Lord. •Now, the Scriptures clearly reveal the ; presence in Jerusalem at this.time of ■ 'men prophets, including .Jeremiah, but 1 the high priest chose to wait uppn 1 Huldah, who gave -them a message from God to,the Bang, and also confirmed His ' threatened punishment of the people 1 (2 Chr. 34, verses 14 to 28. also chapter. 85-25). I note qlso that your correspondent { is-not clear as to the New Testament .term-"prophecy." 1 In"I.-Cor., 14-3, the Apostle Paul distincJy.states,that ' "He that-'prophetrieth speaketh unto men to edification; exhortation, and comfort." In this connexion I. was' surprised to read' our friend's reply to "Clarity," wherq he declares that the Apostle'> only mentions the masculine, that Js that it does'not read "She that propheßieth." . But woman'is included in all the blessings' of the Gospel, though- invariably the maqculiiie pronoun- is used, as-"He' that W lieveth in the Son of God hath everlasting life." ' , . I do not wish to, trespass on your space, btis,'just to state'.briefly the, New Testament" authority, for women-- to preach. In Acts, chap.' 1, veTses 1 13, 14, vyomeA were included'in the company of thosei who • prayed and waited, for tfie prpmised coming of the Holy '

/: "~ t -upon each.person sat a cloven tongue, . as of fire, and 1 they were all filled with I the Holy Ghost. '• - Now, ..his exceptional . 'visitation with' its' remarkable manifes- ' tations demanded' an explanation which i was immediately' forthcoming, for the ■ Apostle Peter, stated that this was the i fulfilment of Joel's prophecy. His >■: words were: "This is that which was ; spoken by the prophet Joel. And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out My Spirit upon ; all flesh, and your sons and daughters shall prophesy." Again we read in Acts, ch. 21, verse 9, of four sisters who prophesied, and in L Cor., ch 11, merges 4 ,vfi, instructions-are given to both men and women prophets. So that full lib.erty is granted to women to preach or prophesy. The Scripture so of ten 'quoted' to forbid : women to exercise this gift has no bearing on the subject. L Cor., ch. 14, verses 34, 35, forbids learners to ask questions in the church, thus - causing, confusion. The text clearly shows this. It is directed to married women, as they are i bidden to wait, .and . ask their husbands at home. :■ This - indicates that . the ' transgressors - were ■ wives of •. teachers, who - were taking advantage of their natural relationship, and so called forth this rebuke from. the Apostle.—Yours,, etc.. DAVID THOMAS SMITH. March 3rd, 1931. , TO THE XBITOB OF THE PBESS. Sir, —In this morning's issue of your ■ paper-1 - notice that "One Who - Goes to Church Sometimes" desires Scriptural authority, for ■ the progressive step the Methodist Church of New Zealand has taken recently in the matter of women" ministers. Sorely in a case of this nature it must seem s a little, absurd. to request thqt a Scriptural tjext be adduced in its support. Would slavery have been abolished ' if some isolated - verse of I Scripture had been, demanded /to jusr tify the cessation of'this agelong practice P Would Earl Shaftesbury's reforms in the last century-have been carried out if he had been compelled to produce Scriptural proof-texts in sup- , port-, of- his campaign* and- wipe ■ the fqul stain>of child labour-(or murder)'from facer of ' the.e6onomia life : cf x En^

, land P _ ''One Who Goes to Church i „Sometimes", should ask. himself, Is it' 1 not just that woman, who has borne - -the _ burden and heat of the day in the i Christian conquest all down the ages, 5 should b© allowed, in these,days,of, her j emancipation, to lift- up her voice iand j tell the world in the name of God all that Christmas meant, and still means, ; to'herP ' ; It is quite evident from the life-of our Lord, from His- personality and 1 from'the method in whfch He used His 1 influence on men and Women that He i could not conceive*'of ' any distinction i possible in spiritual quality and there- , fore .in spiritual' opportunity as. be- , i .tween man and woman. In our Lord's day if would have been impossible to nave given women any high, minister--0 ial office without the grossest injustice and .cruelty, 1 Anyone familiar with .woman's, lot / in those dark days can readily appreciate our' Lord's wisdom and that of His apostles in refusing to give woman a. work she could not then undertake. , _ But that no longer is necessary. Today women are not less effective than -men in ally department of the Christian ministry. No matter what side of the Church's life we consider, whether prophetic, priestly, pastoral, or administrative, there are splendid women doing that work most efficiently, and it appears utterly unjust that when we discover, such work faithfully and adequately done, J we should withhold the rite or ordination, purely we should give an outward and visible sign of our recognition of that work, and how can that be given except m ordination?— Yours, etc., NOT A METHODIST. March 3rd, 1931 SHEEP DIP. TO TBS EDITOB' OF TBZ TRESS. .Sir, —At a meeting of the executive of the Sheep owners' Union last week the; coßt of sheep dip was brought up. I also .would like to know if it is the same strength as it' used to be. My experience the last few years at shearing and' tailing has been that hoggets and lambs are covered with ticks, and that hag ,been the general experience' with many other sheepownej-s. ; , , I have read- oA certain, poteht spirits - -tliat.are-'iifiW!jull«s^virkßtzen|^^yP^ .'-1.,. 1 ' , -- I* 3 ' \ T ,<, * < - -n - 1 . *

haps the dip compounds are'stilVilacking in',this respect; and-weSnay b&'getting a second-class < article-«fqrrai firstclass price. It- must, cost £150,000,. to dip the Dominion's* thirtyniiJUoif" flock, Why not setupa new'iniWtry.anci laye perhaps 40.per,cent, of that from leaving New Zealand. Tbe- other 60 per cent, probably, goes dutyj shipping,, profit,- and costs of distribution^— Yours, etc., ' , , WOOI&EQWER. March 3rd, 1931. ( _ u .. s i' SILVER PLATE FOR H.M.S.— VERONICA. i • TO THE EDITOR OJ-TBX FBKpS. Sir, —Acting on a suggestion, made in Wellington that the Navy' League"'in New Zealand" should take up a shilling'' subscription to purchase a piece'of plate for presentation- to H;M.S. Veronica in recognition pf -the ..valuable'work done by the ship's company immediately following the disastrous earthquake ' in' Napier, the .Canterbury, branch ,of ; the Navy League will be pleased to Teceive donations of one shilling for this'purpose until the 30th instant. It may be said that the officers and men or the Navy need no - reward, bnt ' ■that aspect does not enter into . the i matter, because the work they did "Was beyond reward. As soon as it was seen from the ship-that there'was likely to be loss of life,' landing parties;-were-mustered, the. necessary,gear was. got ready and away they went with what result everyone knows.-—Yours,Veto.," C. J. TBELEAVEN, Secretary, Canterbury Branchof'the r Navy League. Christchurch, March 3rd, 1931. ( {Subscriptions may also be sent to Tub Pbess , Office. J •Golf goods to the \value, of ■ over £3,500,000 were bought iii England by American golfers in one year.Morning Sickness—Valuable booklet' by maternity nurse, "sent „ free, '.plain - wrapper. Address, " Nurse.-P.O. Bo*